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Old 11-08-2023, 11:36 AM
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Queuing studies show it is the most efficient process. What people are missing is it applies to economy tickets and those without Status. The better revenue passenger avoids it.

Plenty of YouTube videos confirm the process
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Old 11-08-2023, 11:43 AM
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Always thought they should board the last rows first and then move forward and make sure to keep an eye on passengers to make sure they put their carry-ons over their seats not somewhere close to the front
Makes sense. Carry it farther. No overhead bins. Only small personal items (coats, purses, briefcase or laptop) stowed under seat or on your lap. No seat selections. Load back right window, back left window, back right middle, back left middle, back right aisle, back left aisle. Next row same procedure, all the way forward. Quickest way. Time is money.
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Queuing studies show it is the most efficient process. What people are missing is it applies to economy tickets and those without Status. The better revenue passenger avoids it.

Plenty of YouTube videos confirm the process
So what about the passenger that pays extra for an aisle seat only to get shut out of overhead storage????? Tough luck???? One could argue that they paid extra for the seat, not overhead bin space, but if the airlines aren't catering to those that pay extra and everyone has equal chances at the overhead bins, why board business class and premium first??? Why reserve "their" overhead bins for "their" use????
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Old 11-08-2023, 11:59 AM
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Might re consider or do a little research on insurance companies. Lived near the beach in S. Florida and premiums were 4X higher than in TV. Laws in Florida were pro consumer before recent legislation regarding attorney fees. Insurance companies are like any other business. They want to make a reasonable profit. When they pull out, they are looking at the bottom line
A whole 4x times higher for 100 times the risk! Scandalous! Why obviously, people who can afford to live on the beach ought to be subsidized by people who can't, right? Shame on us Villagers for whining about the insurance costs on our practically risk-free fortresses, built to hurricane standards, in a place too far from the ocean for a hurricane to reach! Can't we just be happy that our insane insurance bills make it possible for a few fortunate folks to live on the beach?

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Old 11-08-2023, 05:00 PM
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The goal of every American airline is not transportation, but merely to discover new ways to torment their fellow citizens in most petty manner possible. Spirit used to lead the pack in this regard, but United believes that this new innovation of charging more for aisle seats while giving all the luggage space to the window seats will vault them into the lead.

It seems like they started this nonsense in earnest about 15 years ago, but they've actually hated us ever since we ended their sweetheart deal with the gooberment back in the 70's. Most businesses value customers, but this pack of geniuses wonder why they perpetually teeter on the edge of bankruptcy while the bulk of their customers would rather drive three days than expose themselves to 5 hours torment at the hands of an airline and their cohorts at the TSA -- and pay three times the cost for the privilege.

Much like the dumbass insurance companies, who flee Florida when they discover that there aren't enough Villagers to fleece so they can offer cut-rate insurance to beach-dwellers, there has never been an airline executive bright enough to discover that if he just quit abusing his customers, he'd drive all the competing dungeon masters out of business, and make up on volume what he lost in baggage fees.

I’m pretty sure the real goal is to extract as money as they can from you and make you feel like you got good deal
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Old 11-09-2023, 04:27 AM
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Starting last week, United has a new boarding process. After first and business classes, they board window, middle and then aisle seats. They say this will speed things along and claim a savings of around 3 minutes since people don’t have to get up to seat people. I always get an aisle seat. Well, on my outbound flight, the middle and window people in my row arrived after I had been seated so I still had to move. No big deal. The big problem is that even though aisle seats cost more and we’ve paid for the privilege of stowing a carry on, by the time we’re allowed to board all of the bin space is gone. On both flights, all aisle passengers had to check their carryons. On my return flight, some of the middle seats also had to check their bags. Perhaps they need to rethink things.
Trust me they are constantly rethinking boarding procedures as time is money. The longer it takes to board the more it costs them. Surprisingly the Southwest open seating policy has proven to be the fastest and most efficient boarding process.
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:30 AM
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I'm an aisle seater and don't care if I board first or last, long as the aircraft is on time.
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:36 AM
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Wow! all the things we don't see and hear taking first class.
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Old 11-09-2023, 06:42 AM
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The solution is to eliminate the overhead bins. Either check your bag or put it under your seat.
No, the solution is to have two free bags checked and modern interiors with overhead bins that allow carry on bags to be put in like books standing up on a shelf. If not, fly another airline like southwest
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Old 11-09-2023, 07:39 AM
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Starting last week, United has a new boarding process. After first and business classes, they board window, middle and then aisle seats. They say this will speed things along and claim a savings of around 3 minutes since people don’t have to get up to seat people. I always get an aisle seat. Well, on my outbound flight, the middle and window people in my row arrived after I had been seated so I still had to move. No big deal. The big problem is that even though aisle seats cost more and we’ve paid for the privilege of stowing a carry on, by the time we’re allowed to board all of the bin space is gone. On both flights, all aisle passengers had to check their carryons. On my return flight, some of the middle seats also had to check their bags. Perhaps they need to rethink things.
I fly United, and I wondered about that. I pay to be in boarding group 2 and buy seats near the front for extra money, so I’m hoping I get to get on before the overhead bins are full. You are right about the need to enforce the rule to send oversized suitcases to checked baggage. Then there are the people who put a little book bag or purse or stuffed animal or coat or purse up there, or don’t load the suitcases properly.
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Old 11-09-2023, 08:00 AM
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I think it's odd that first class goes on first. They sit there getting pounded by a couple of hundred people, if they are in an aisle seat.
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Old 11-09-2023, 08:08 AM
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Starting last week, United has a new boarding process. After first and business classes, they board window, middle and then aisle seats. They say this will speed things along and claim a savings of around 3 minutes since people don’t have to get up to seat people. I always get an aisle seat. Well, on my outbound flight, the middle and window people in my row arrived after I had been seated so I still had to move. No big deal. The big problem is that even though aisle seats cost more and we’ve paid for the privilege of stowing a carry on, by the time we’re allowed to board all of the bin space is gone. On both flights, all aisle passengers had to check their carryons. On my return flight, some of the middle seats also had to check their bags. Perhaps they need to rethink things.
Delta piloted this thought about 7 or so years ago.... note they don't use it. total failure and complaints up the a$$ aside from upgrade mix ups, it also brought confusion at the gate with "who's on first" and actually took longer because as usual people don't listen. Also the amount of complaint from the aisle seats was amazing as just about all of them never had their carry on anywhere near them. so who should be first off the plane in that row ended up to be the last due to the lack of having their carry on.
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Old 11-09-2023, 08:50 AM
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Starting last week, United has a new boarding process. After first and business classes, they board window, middle and then aisle seats. They say this will speed things along and claim a savings of around 3 minutes since people don’t have to get up to seat people. I always get an aisle seat. Well, on my outbound flight, the middle and window people in my row arrived after I had been seated so I still had to move. No big deal. The big problem is that even though aisle seats cost more and we’ve paid for the privilege of stowing a carry on, by the time we’re allowed to board all of the bin space is gone. On both flights, all aisle passengers had to check their carryons. On my return flight, some of the middle seats also had to check their bags. Perhaps they need to rethink things.
If you have any status with United such as Silver, Gold or higher, you will board in groups 1 or 2 no matter where you are sitting. Also, if you have one of the United credit cards, you board in group 2. everyone else, groups 3, 4, or 5.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:50 AM
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That is unfair, and agents often jump the gun. Only the cabin crew knows when the overhead bins are full, so the agent should check with them before they deny boarding with a carry-on.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:52 AM
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This is incorrect. It doesn’t cost any more to take longer to board, as long as you leave on time. Crews are not paid until the aircraft blocks out of the gate.
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