[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gunny2403

Rather than let you know explicitly what I think of you and your post, let’s just say I disagree with the entire post

You did not quote which poster you are referring to. Why not quote the post so there is no guess work involved?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Conniehar

You seriously believe the CDC? There was no flu last year because everything was classified as COVID. This is all such a joke! Masks don’t work! COVID is here to stay! Let the kids breathe!

I can see we are on opposite sides of the fence on this. Each of us has differing beliefs and yes, of course, I believe the CDC.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by merrymini

Children have been harmed by not going to school, perhaps unmeasurably harmed.
I am certain that those same children continue to wear the useless masks outside of the classroom too.
These organizations lie so much, they would not know the truth if it hit them in the nose.
Mandates are a terrible idea.
People who are vaccinated get sick too.
This is coronavirus 19, meaning there are 18 that have come before it.
You are being played.

Where in the world did you ever get that idea? ROTFLMAO!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter

Nope, not buying it. The ones that make the mask rules are always caught without masks in public at parties. If you think masks work then wear one and leave me and mine alone.
Get the shot and you wont get Covid. That’s what they say!

I'm fully vaccinated and do not wear a mask anywhere unless it is required. Since I've been fully vaccinated, I can count on one hand the amount of times I have worn a mask. I've already said this, I believe but will repeat it to address your post specifically. My OP was to address school age children who can not be vaccinated and will be sitting in classrooms for in person learning.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

How about, "hello Congressman can we please have National Health Care so that we can ALL afford to get good Pediatric and Public Healthcare like all the rest of the free, 1st world nations."

How about it-----you mean turn our best health care in the world into another European type crap socialist program where you die waiting for care???? No thanks.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Lower because of masks......indisputable.

Very, very disputable.

[frose]

just pure stupidity on our parts.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Katieburr

Absolutely agree! If mandating masking had happened from the very beginning we would not be in the state we’re in now. And now our children are getting sick and dying. How on earth does anyone justify this?

I agree with masking, but we also needed vaccinations up to 85% of America by July. Now we have fed the beast (CV) and it is stronger. We are now in a world of hurt.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

How about it-----you mean turn our best health care in the world into another European type crap socialist program where you die waiting for care???? No thanks.

I disagree with this post.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by SkBlogW

Singapore says hold my beer

80% vaccinated, 91% mask compliance gets you this:

Attachment 90820

Is this graph accurate? Why should anyone believe this?

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Do you know how dystopian this sounds? Kids at school with their faces covered? Heck, you want everyone at school with their face covered! How can they learn properly like that? Much of learning at a young age is about communication, and communication is about facial expressions, whether it's smiles or frowns, and just showing emotion.

There's been many studies done all over the world that show masking children is not beneficial and they are not major spreaders of the virus nor are they seriously affected by it if they do get it. There is no logical reason for making kids wear masks all day long.

The bottom line is the vaccines don't work well so that's why we need the masks. If the the CDC would just come out and admit it instead of causing friction in our society by trying to blame the unvaccinated when it's the vaccines that are not working like they thought they would. I know so many people who are fully vaccinated and have gotten it, some worse than others. Who cares if it's the original Covid-19 or the Delta variant, it's still SARS-CV2, mutation or not.

[Love2Swim]

The bottom line is we have people who believe in science, and we have our share of people who believe any schmuck who posts their non-scientific opinion on the internet. There is no getting through to them. Those of us who grasp reality must do our best to encourage family and friends to be vaccinated, mask up properly, and act in the best interests of society. And vote for the candidates who embrace science.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Is this graph accurate? Why should anyone believe this?

While I can't speak to the entire graph, Singapore had 807 new cases in the past 24 hours. This tracks with the graph. I don't know where that graph was made, but I do know that Singapore has been bouncing alone the baseline of near zero for some time.

The data can be found here:

Singapore - COVID-19 Overview - Johns Hopkins

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It's a long way from mask mandates to "death camps"
That's like saying seat belt mandates lead to road tests every 6 months which leads to mandatory participation in a roadside chain gang

Do you know why the courts upheld seat belt laws, even for a single person with no family driving alone and getting in a single car accident? It was because the cost of any excess injury that was incurred due to a lack of seat belt use would ultimately be shared by other people, whether Medicare, Medicaid, No-fault, or private insurance. Hence it was ruled constitutional and legal.

Not a big leap to conclude that mask mandates would be ultimately upheld under the same principle.

I see that you had a change of heart regarding masks. I believe you were the one that suggested or stated that masks were almost useless. Now you are advocating for mask mandates?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm fully vaccinated and do not wear a mask anywhere unless it is required. Since I've been fully vaccinated, I can count on one hand the amount of times I have worn a mask. I've already said this, I believe but will repeat it to address your post specifically. My OP was to address school age children who can not be vaccinated and will be sitting in classrooms for in person learning.

I won't say something like "your post is stupid" because that would be disrespectful. However, I disagree with it totally.
You posted that you do not wear a mask because you are vaccinated. You also know that even vaccinated, there is a slight chance that you can become infected, even if you may not be hospitalized. Children have a very slim chance of being hospitalized if infected, probably less than someone vaccinated. You won't wear a mask but want to mandate an impossible practice on children.
Give it up because you are wrong for attempting to mandate something for someone else's children.