[brakey]

Seriously, how long are you going to stay in the house. It must get lonely hiding under that bed!

We had our Pfizer vaccinations and feel pretty confident that we are protected.

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

In talking to folks, they don’t seem to realize that the 95% efficacy rate of Covid vaccines means that the vaccine will not offer complete protection 5% of the time. If the vaccine fails in 5% of people who receive the vaccine and are later infected, that 5% still has a risk of mild symptoms.*

So even if we assume that everyone is vaccinated, 5 out of every 100 people are still going to be susceptible to Covid. The good news for everyone, inoculated or not is (and it’s the same good news we’ve had all along):

1. Not everyone who is out and about is going to get infected. Far from it. Covid has only infected a minority of the population. Yes there are millions of symptom-free infected people who don’t know they are/were infected, but when you tally the total of known and statistical infections, the majority of the population has not been infected, even after a year.

2. IF you are unvaccinated and get infected, you have an 80% chance of having no symptoms or a mild case with no long term effects. Repeat - 80%. That percentage is the aggregate and accounts for all age groups with or without comorbidities. And it means that if you are quite elderly AND have a compromised immune system, you’ll probably STILL be okay. This fact is all over the internet from reputable sources, but the media doesn’t publicize it. It also means, however, that you have a 20% chance of having symptoms, perhaps severe symptoms.

That said, the vaccinated people are not 100% protected. They still have a 5% chance of having symptoms and I’m not sure they understand this. They do seem to understand, because Fauci said so, that they do still have a chance of being a carrier and passing it on to someone else if they get infected.

So I ask: Most of us were VERY concerned when we had a 20% chance. Some were petrified. Why aren’t we still wringing our hands and clutching our pearls with a 5% chance? Is it because the vaccine seems to be 100% effective against hospitalization and death?*

The only solution is people need to continue to stay home. No restaurants, no town squares, continue to have your goods delivered to your home. Keep them quarantined for a week and then sanitize them. Never touch your face with unwashed hands. No guests of any kind in your home.

And if you do need to go out, wear two masks, stay 6 feet apart. And don’t shake hands with anyone.

That’s how you stay safe.

Me, I have not left my home in a year, and I will stay home until Covid disappears whether I get vaccinated or not.


* Source: COVID-19 vaccines: What does 95% efficacy actually mean? | Live Science

Your living in prison. The Polio vaccine had an efficacy rate of 90%. When you were a kid did you hide in house after receiving the double dose vaccine. Today it’s closer to 99% as the vaccine has been improved and they now give three doses. The measles’s vaccine had an efficacy rate of 96%. Are you still staying home after all these years because there is a 4% chance you could get measles. Very rarely is a vaccine 100% effective. So my advice is get out of your house and start living life because at our age there is not a lot of it left. I cannot tell you how sorryI am for you.

[merrymini]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

In talking to folks, they don’t seem to realize that the 95% efficacy rate of Covid vaccines means that the vaccine will not offer complete protection 5% of the time. If the vaccine fails in 5% of people who receive the vaccine and are later infected, that 5% still has a risk of mild symptoms.*

So even if we assume that everyone is vaccinated, 5 out of every 100 people are still going to be susceptible to Covid. The good news for everyone, inoculated or not is (and it’s the same good news we’ve had all along):

1. Not everyone who is out and about is going to get infected. Far from it. Covid has only infected a minority of the population. Yes there are millions of symptom-free infected people who don’t know they are/were infected, but when you tally the total of known and statistical infections, the majority of the population has not been infected, even after a year.

2. IF you are unvaccinated and get infected, you have an 80% chance of having no symptoms or a mild case with no long term effects. Repeat - 80%. That percentage is the aggregate and accounts for all age groups with or without comorbidities. And it means that if you are quite elderly AND have a compromised immune system, you’ll probably STILL be okay. This fact is all over the internet from reputable sources, but the media doesn’t publicize it. It also means, however, that you have a 20% chance of having symptoms, perhaps severe symptoms.

That said, the vaccinated people are not 100% protected. They still have a 5% chance of having symptoms and I’m not sure they understand this. They do seem to understand, because Fauci said so, that they do still have a chance of being a carrier and passing it on to someone else if they get infected.

So I ask: Most of us were VERY concerned when we had a 20% chance. Some were petrified. Why aren’t we still wringing our hands and clutching our pearls with a 5% chance? Is it because the vaccine seems to be 100% effective against hospitalization and death?*

The only solution is people need to continue to stay home. No restaurants, no town squares, continue to have your goods delivered to your home. Keep them quarantined for a week and then sanitize them. Never touch your face with unwashed hands. No guests of any kind in your home.

And if you do need to go out, wear two masks, stay 6 feet apart. And don’t shake hands with anyone.

That’s how you stay safe.

Me, I have not left my home in a year, and I will stay home until Covid disappears whether I get vaccinated or not.


* Source: COVID-19 vaccines: What does 95% efficacy actually mean? | Live Science

I hope they find your body after you die.

[skyking]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

In talking to folks, they don’t seem to realize that the 95% efficacy rate of Covid vaccines means that the vaccine will not offer complete protection 5% of the time. If the vaccine fails in 5% of people who receive the vaccine and are later infected, that 5% still has a risk of mild symptoms.*

So even if we assume that everyone is vaccinated, 5 out of every 100 people are still going to be susceptible to Covid. The good news for everyone, inoculated or not is (and it’s the same good news we’ve had all along):

1. Not everyone who is out and about is going to get infected. Far from it. Covid has only infected a minority of the population. Yes there are millions of symptom-free infected people who don’t know they are/were infected, but when you tally the total of known and statistical infections, the majority of the population has not been infected, even after a year.

2. IF you are unvaccinated and get infected, you have an 80% chance of having no symptoms or a mild case with no long term effects. Repeat - 80%. That percentage is the aggregate and accounts for all age groups with or without comorbidities. And it means that if you are quite elderly AND have a compromised immune system, you’ll probably STILL be okay. This fact is all over the internet from reputable sources, but the media doesn’t publicize it. It also means, however, that you have a 20% chance of having symptoms, perhaps severe symptoms.

That said, the vaccinated people are not 100% protected. They still have a 5% chance of having symptoms and I’m not sure they understand this. They do seem to understand, because Fauci said so, that they do still have a chance of being a carrier and passing it on to someone else if they get infected.

So I ask: Most of us were VERY concerned when we had a 20% chance. Some were petrified. Why aren’t we still wringing our hands and clutching our pearls with a 5% chance? Is it because the vaccine seems to be 100% effective against hospitalization and death?*

The only solution is people need to continue to stay home. No restaurants, no town squares, continue to have your goods delivered to your home. Keep them quarantined for a week and then sanitize them. Never touch your face with unwashed hands. No guests of any kind in your home.

And if you do need to go out, wear two masks, stay 6 feet apart. And don’t shake hands with anyone.

That’s how you stay safe.

Me, I have not left my home in a year, and I will stay home until Covid disappears whether I get vaccinated or not.


* Source: COVID-19 vaccines: What does 95% efficacy actually mean? | Live Science

Wow! Stay inside rest your life? Some choose to love life. Some choose to live in fear.

I had no idea LiverpoolWalrus was Fauci's screen name. Triple Mask!

[bobdeb]

1. I would wish to thank you all for this morning's entertainment. It was
Certainly lively and informative, for better or for worse.

2. I didn't get to read every post and skipped over a good number who reposted some long diatribe before adding their own comments. Augh... really?

3. Just keep buying all that Chinese s**t. Can't wait to see what their next curse on humankind might be. Did we forget where all that cr@p came from? Convenient memories.

[clwahlstrom]

Extreme!!! Life is too darn short.. completely disagree. Things may never be back to norm. Enjoy yourself and self in hibernation.

[Rodneysblue]

So is that 5% of the 20%?

[Annarachel]

My opinion for myself I will not allow the CDC to control my life. Life is very short if you want to stay at home do it.I will not live my life in fear. unfortunately we all die at some point so why not live your best life. God bless

[G.R.I.T.S.]

[QUOTE=LiverpoolWalrus;1918636]In talking to folks, they don’t seem to realize that the 95% efficacy rate of Covid vaccines means that the vaccine will not offer complete protection 5% of the time. If the vaccine fails in 5% of people who receive the vaccine and are later infected, that 5% still has a risk of mild symptoms.*

Flu vaccines can fail if vaccine manufacturers guess wrong on the flu variant for a particular season. Most of the general population do not vaccinate for flu. Thousands die yearly of flu. Yes, we realize the risk but choose to live anyway. I respect your choice. Please respect mine.

[billethkid]

[QUOTE=G.R.I.T.S.;1918917]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

In talking to folks, they don’t seem to realize that the 95% efficacy rate of Covid vaccines means that the vaccine will not offer complete protection 5% of the time. If the vaccine fails in 5% of people who receive the vaccine and are later infected, that 5% still has a risk of mild symptoms.*

Flu vaccines can fail if vaccine manufacturers guess wrong on the flu variant for a particular season. Most of the general population do not vaccinate for flu. Thousands die yearly of flu. Yes, we realize the risk but choose to live anyway. I respect your choice. Please respect mine.

Closer to 50-50:

2019-20 Influenza Season Vaccination Coverage Report | FluVaxView | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

[Guitarman1951]

You stay home, that's your choice and I understand, but we are fully vaccinated and plan to try living life a little more normal after staying home over a year. We will still wear masks, distance and sanitize, but I'm done with hibernating like a scared rat. We went out for dinner the other night for the first time in 13 months and it was so nice to be "alive" again.
We won't go to squares or anywhere people are so inconsiderate but we aren't going to worry about a 5% chance. That's much less of a chance of getting colds or the flu or any other airborne virus.

[lpkruege1]

Good for you. If it makes you happy to stay at home, do it. But are you happy? Is this really how you want to spend the rest of your life? Why do feel others need to do the same as you? I've been told I'm being selfish. Demanding I stay so others feel good is just as selfish. This is still America and we do have free choice. I hope you stay safe and you're happy with your decision. God knows where we are, and come to claim us at any time he chooses. I hope I'm out enjoying life when he does.

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by lpkruege1

Good for you. If it makes you happy to stay at home, do it. But are you happy? Is this really how you want to spend the rest of your life? Why do feel others need to do the same as you? I've been told I'm being selfish. Demanding I stay so others feel good is just as selfish. This is still America and we do have free choice. I hope you stay safe and you're happy with your decision. God knows where we are, and come to claim us at any time he chooses. I hope I'm out enjoying life when he does.

Perfect response.

[DanBrew]

Watch out for falling space junk. Asteroids are in the forecast.

[Tomptomp]

I know the answer. Let’s all get a plastic bubbles and just live inside them.