[Sparky25]

When I was young back in the day we were taught to remember our veterans on Veteran’s day for their sacrifice , whether they were drafted or enlisted. They were willing to sacrifice their lives even unto death for the lives of other Americans –we called that patriotism. Today we are faced with some of us that are not willing to sacrifice a little and wear a mask for the safety of our fellow Americans. Where has our patriotism gone.
We need More LOVE for America --Which translates More LOVE toward all Americans

George Grafer

[Sparky25]

When I was young back in the day we were taught to remember our veterans on Veteran’s day for their sacrifice , whether they were drafted or enlisted. They were willing to sacrifice their lives even unto death for the lives of other Americans –we called that patriotism. Today we are faced with some of us that are not willing to sacrifice a little and wear a mask for the safety of our fellow Americans. Where has our patriotism gone.
We need More LOVE for America --Which translates More LOVE toward all Americans

George Grafer

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Sparky25

When I was young back in the day we were taught to remember our veterans on Veteran’s day for their sacrifice , whether they were drafted or enlisted. They were willing to sacrifice their lives even unto death for the lives of other Americans –we called that patriotism. Today we are faced with some of us that are not willing to sacrifice a little and wear a mask for the safety of our fellow Americans. Where has our patriotism gone.
We need More LOVE for America --Which translates More LOVE toward all Americans

George Grafer

Just for the sake of argument...

At other times it is said that veterans and patriots died to protect the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. Some might suggest that mask mandates and mask shaming are threats to those freedoms.

[Sparky25]

Can some one tell me how to post a new tread? I can't seem to find the button.

THX

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just for the sake of argument...

At other times it is said that veterans and patriots died to protect the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. Some might suggest that mask mandates and mask shaming are threats to those freedoms.

Yep, some will cry patriotism and the Constitution only when it suites their own purpose

[Velvet]

So let me understand this, some people are willing to serve in the military and risk their lives for fellow Americans but refuse to wear a mask to protect those same people?

[Sparky25]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just for the sake of argument...

At other times it is said that veterans and patriots died to protect the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. Some might suggest that mask mandates and mask shaming are threats to those freedoms.

I suppose we all look at things differently. I rather enjoy the freedom of going into a restaurant and not having smoke all around me. Maybe that's because I am a cancer survivor. I enjoy the freedom of having my children go to school I knowing that the other children have been vaccinated so that I do not have to worry about my children coming home with a disease. I enjoy the freedom that everybody needs a drivers license to drive a car and I can rest assured that they have passed the test. Back in the day we did not need seat belts but now we do. I guess that law is to protect ourselves. The same goes for motorcycle helmets. Most states require them now.
George

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Sparky25

I suppose we all look at things differently. I rather enjoy the freedom of going into a restaurant and not having smoke all around me. Maybe that's because I am a cancer survivor. I enjoy the freedom of having my children go to school I knowing that the other children have been vaccinated so that I do not have to worry about my children coming home with a disease. I enjoy the freedom that everybody needs a drivers license to drive a car and I can rest assured that they have passed the test. Back in the day we did not need seat belts but now we do. I guess that law is to protect ourselves. The same goes for motorcycle helmets. Most states require them now.
George

In every one of those cases you mention, a law was passed to take away your/my/someone's freedom to make a choice. And, at least a few of those cases were very controversial because it was acknowledged that a freedom was being taken away.

Be careful cheering for your "freedoms" that come at a price for someone else. Tomorrow someone else might be cheering for a "freedom" that costs you.

[sail33or]

All those States with Covid Surges were told to wear Masks. Still had surge. So no matter if not enough wore masks that is what happened and nothing that is presented, claimed or discussed (over and over and over) is going to change mask wearing adherence. (NO, not even a National Mandate). It is what it is NOW. You wear your mask and that is all YOU can do.

NCAA Football Teams live in a BUBBLE. Coaches wear masks (well not really) but most all the Teams still get Covid. Most games are being cancelled or rescheduled.

The GREAT RESET is testing to see how many will obey mask wearing, how many obey Global Warming, Election Results, How many obey Facebook, Twitter and Media Propaganda, etc. They have something in the works for the hard cases that still have not obeyed coming. Say Hello to GLOBALISM.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just for the sake of argument...

At other times it is said that veterans and patriots died to protect the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. Some might suggest that mask mandates and mask shaming are threats to those freedoms.

I'll suggest that driving freely without the burden of responsibility to prevent my vehicle from ramming into yours, is a freedom that has been taken away from me.

I'll suggest that being able to sneeze on the back of your head without covering my mouth, because I don't feel like raising my hand or backing away from you first, is a freedom being threatened.

I'll suggest that being able to go into your house at 3AM and raid your refrigerator just because I learned you might have something edible in it is a freedom you would probably deny me.

I'll also suggest that after I'm done nomming on your food, that if were to sleep on your lanai, you probably would want to deny that freedom to me.

Freedom of assembly and all that. I feel like assembling in front of your driveway today. Sorry if you can't get out to do your grocery shopping but hey - public roads and all that, right?

Or -

is it possible that with freedoms come responsibilities?

Nahhhhhh that can't possibly be true. Can it?

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'll suggest that driving freely without the burden of responsibility to prevent my vehicle from ramming into yours, is a freedom that has been taken away from me.

I'll suggest that being able to sneeze on the back of your head without covering my mouth, because I don't feel like raising my hand or backing away from you first, is a freedom being threatened.

I'll suggest that being able to go into your house at 3AM and raid your refrigerator just because I learned you might have something edible in it is a freedom you would probably deny me.

I'll also suggest that after I'm done nomming on your food, that if were to sleep on your lanai, you probably would want to deny that freedom to me.

Freedom of assembly and all that. I feel like assembling in front of your driveway today. Sorry if you can't get out to do your grocery shopping but hey - public roads and all that, right?

Or -

is it possible that with freedoms come responsibilities?

Nahhhhhh that can't possibly be true. Can it?

Sophistry.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Do you have one to show that you have been vaccinated for the measles, mumps, pox, etc?

Those diseases did not cause a global pandemic and were not deadly like the virus that causes Covid-19. As a child, I had measles, mumps and chicken pox. I did not receive vaccinations so, no, I didn't get a button.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Sparky25

Can some one tell me how to post a new tread? I can't seem to find the button.

THX

On the new version of this forum, the "button" to start a new thread is on the left side of the page towards the top. It is dark read with white text that says, "Post New Thread".

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

Sophistry.

Had to look that one up. Reading this forum can be such an education. Thanks.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Just for the sake of argument...

At other times it is said that veterans and patriots died to protect the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. Some might suggest that mask mandates and mask shaming are threats to those freedoms.

Seriously, the freedom not to wear masks, socks and what else? I can tell you for sure my cousins didn’t risk their lives for you to have the right not to wear socks.