[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Switter

I saw someone in a four seater (front facing) wedge his roof in a tunnel, lol. The turn was too tight for him entering the tunnel

The turn was too tight, or was his driving skills abysmal?

[SHIBUMI]

Sounds like we need to increase the Civilians on Patrol for Speeders program. Who would have thunk it. Seat belts cause speeding by their research.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

As usual speeding seems to be blamed. Never mentioned drunk driving, illegal maneuvering by carts or vehicles. IMO most of accidents was NOT caused by golf cart speeding, but that’s my opinion. Cause was from drivers mistakes or drunk IMO.

[Switter]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

Most of the issues caused by golf cart anccidents are because of SLOW golf cart drivers. This also is the reason for a lot of car accidents. When you get a golf cart driver going 15 mph on the straight or single digits around the curves, normal people are going to want to pass.

If you have somebody right behind you that wants to go the speed limit or faster than you, pull over and let them pass, it only takes a few seconds. Same goes for driving a car, you get slow people in the left lane that go just as slow or slower than people in the right lane and you wonder why people are on your tail/flashing brights/honking at you, move over because the people behind you are going to take chances to pass you.

I also don’t want to hear people say slow down, we are retired, no need to rush, blah blah blah. A lot of us are busy, have appointments for drs/dentists/PB/tennis/golf/whatever and need to be somewhere at a specific time and most of us don’t want to leave an hour in advance to go somewhere that should only take you 20 mins to get there.

So you're blaming a slow driver for an accident because someone who is in a hurry tries to perform a maneuver, like passing on a blind corner, and it's the slow drivers fault? I would bet that 9 times out of 10 if there is an accident involving a slow driver the person trying to go around the slow driver is responsible for it. I've had numerous incidents of people passing me on blind corners when riding my bike on the paths. In fact, it happens to me almost every time I go out.

You have to remember that there are a lot of pedestrians, like bikers and walkers, on the multi modal paths. They're more like a glorified sidewalk than they are a road. If you don't wanna leave an hour early or if you are in a hurry, take your car.

[Villagesgal]

Don't know what you were watching, but it said lack of requiring seat belts and other safety fearures in golf carts, especially since many are illegally adjusted for higher speeds was the problem. Not just illegal speed alone.

[RickyLee]

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[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Switter

So you're blaming a slow driver for an accident because someone who is in a hurry tries to perform a maneuver, like passing on a blind corner, and it's the slow drivers fault? I would bet that 9 times out of 10 if there is an accident involving a slow driver the person trying to go around the slow driver is responsible for it. I've had numerous incidents of people passing me on blind corners when riding my bike on the paths. In fact, it happens to me almost every time I go out.

You have to remember that there are a lot of pedestrians, like bikers and walkers, on the multi modal paths. They're more like a glorified sidewalk than they are a road. If you don't wanna leave an hour early or if you are in a hurry, take your car.

Sorry, but I agree with the poster you are responding to, and yes, IT IS THE SLOW DRIVER"S FAULT. Yes, the immediate causal factor might be a stupid move by an impatient driver, but the ROOT CAUSE is the slow driver. If these slugs weren't crawling along, that impatient driver would not be making a stupid move in the first place.

I am not advocating for speeding, and I am not advocating for stupid maneuvers. I am advocating for a modicum of driving skills, which includes the ability to drive faster than 12 mph. Those that cannot keep up with cart traffic on a MMP should pull over and let the 17 carts piled up behind them pass. Those that tool along at 12 but then speed up to 20+ when someone tries to pass should just be shot on the spot. BTW, in case those people don't know it, Florida law prohibits a vehicle that is being overtaken from speeding up to prevent it. This applies to cars and carts. Your responsibility when getting passed is simply to maintain the same speed you were going until you have been completely passed. Then it is OK for you to wake up.

[Bay Kid]

Took a friend down south yesterday to see the new areas. We were cruising at 18 mph. I pulled off the road several times to let many pass. Picked the speed up to 20 and I still got passed. Everybody is in such a hurry.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry, but I agree with the poster you are responding to, and yes, IT IS THE SLOW DRIVER"S FAULT. Yes, the immediate causal factor might be a stupid move by an impatient driver, but the ROOT CAUSE is the slow driver. If these slugs weren't crawling along, that impatient driver would not be making a stupid move in the first place.

I am not advocating for speeding, and I am not advocating for stupid maneuvers. I am advocating for a modicum of driving skills, which includes the ability to drive faster than 12 mph. Those that cannot keep up with cart traffic on a MMP should pull over and let the 17 carts piled up behind them pass. Those that tool along at 12 but then speed up to 20+ when someone tries to pass should just be shot on the spot. BTW, in case those people don't know it, Florida law prohibits a vehicle that is being overtaken from speeding up to prevent it. This applies to cars and carts. Your responsibility when getting passed is simply to maintain the same speed you were going until you have been completely passed. Then it is OK for you to wake up.

Golfing Eagles, I've always agreed with you on this subject and I will add that I actually chuckle and think of you when I'm driving on 466. I drive a 40ft motor home down 466 frequently and unfortunately I'm constantly passing people who are only capable of driving 35 in a 45. In the left lane, of course.

[FFlank]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry, but I agree with the poster you are responding to, and yes, IT IS THE SLOW DRIVER"S FAULT. Yes, the immediate causal factor might be a stupid move by an impatient driver, but the ROOT CAUSE is the slow driver. If these slugs weren't crawling along, that impatient driver would not be making a stupid move in the first place.

I am not advocating for speeding, and I am not advocating for stupid maneuvers. I am advocating for a modicum of driving skills, which includes the ability to drive faster than 12 mph. Those that cannot keep up with cart traffic on a MMP should pull over and let the 17 carts piled up behind them pass. Those that tool along at 12 but then speed up to 20+ when someone tries to pass should just be shot on the spot. BTW, in case those people don't know it, Florida law prohibits a vehicle that is being overtaken from speeding up to prevent it. This applies to cars and carts. Your responsibility when getting passed is simply to maintain the same speed you were going until you have been completely passed. Then it is OK for you to wake up.

Making this argument in court would be both the “root cause” AND the “immediate causal factor” of a judge’s hysterical laughter 😂

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by FFlank

Making this argument in court would be both the “root cause” AND the “immediate causal factor” of a judge’s hysterical laughter 😂

Sorry you think so, your honor

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by MaxFli

The problem in TV is that there are far too many here with a room temperature IQ.................

I do not know if the smartest would want to go faster or slower.

[Latoo]

The paths are an amenity. Should be signs RESIDENTS ONLY!. Golf cart renters should be residents or guests. People renting carts do not understand how the paths work and think it is a game. Where are the going. The path pretty much only go to amenities.

[Latoo]

Paths are an amenity and should be of limits to visitors. Carts should only be rented to residents or approved guests. The day visitors do not understand the how things work. Where are the going. The paths pretty much only go to amenities.

[cgrani]

The golf carts used for lifestyle visits do not have seat belts. These are drivers who are not used to the rules of TV and have probably not driven a cart other than on a golf course.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Latoo

Paths are an amenity and should be of limits to visitors. Carts should only be rented to residents or approved guests. The day visitors do not understand the how things work. Where are the going. The paths pretty much only go to amenities.

The paths are infrastructure paid for by the bonds and maintained with annual maintenance funds.

The paths pretty much go EVERYWHERE in the Villages including neighborhoods, squares, fire stations, district offices, and retail areas.