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So when the increased amount of hurricanes don't materialize, they will be pushing a new narrative of a severe winter (think polar vortex) with lots of snow.
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So when the increased amount of hurricanes don't materialize, they will be pushing a new narrative of a severe winter (think polar vortex) with lots of snow.
And "they" will blame that on global warming as well
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My pool is set for 88 degrees and the heater has had to come on every day. My lanai must be exempt?
Guess so. Our pool water hit 91 degrees on Sunday. No heater on for months.
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Tropical weather that drifts over from Africa always hits the warm water of the Caribbean and Gulf. Please tell us you didn't believe that idiotic report that water temperature in key Largo was 101.1. Pretty amazing when you consider a 12,000 gallon pool on your lanai reaches 87 with no waves pulling in cooler water from deeper areas, but the 22 trillion gallon Atlantic gets to 101.1 with constant waves hitting the shore. I call BS, double BS and triple BS. Somebody must think we're pretty stupid.
You gots some proof it wasn't a correct temp reading?
As far as the pool theory. You have a circulating pump. It continually circulates water from a shaded area. If you don't believe me shut the pump off for four or five days and then tell me what the temperature is.
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Tropical weather that drifts over from Africa always hits the warm water of the Caribbean and Gulf. Please tell us you didn't believe that idiotic report that water temperature in key Largo was 101.1. Pretty amazing when you consider a 12,000 gallon pool on your lanai reaches 87 with no waves pulling in cooler water from deeper areas, but the 22 trillion gallon Atlantic gets to 101.1 with constant waves hitting the shore. I call BS, double BS and triple BS. Somebody must think we're pretty stupid.
I'm tired of the non-stop bs about the 7 year cooling trend you espouse at every occasion.

See the attached article. One of many articles about this "statistic" you use to "prove" your case and deny we have a problem.

Steven Hawking - before his death - stated mankind wouldn't be around by 2100. I'm in the camp if you deniers don't stop burying your heads in the sand he'll be right.

Tell the people who have died because of the continuing heat wave we don't have a problem.

Fact Check-Eight cooler years cannot be extrapolated to draw conclusions on long-term global warming | Reuters
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No worries for another month. The tropical storm activity typically remains very quiet until mid September, when they follow my wife and I down the east coast on our way to the Villages. We brought Ian down with us last year.

And besides, FROGS love hurricanes, they keep most of the Snowbirds away for a couple extra months.

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And "they" will blame that on global warming as well
The polar vortex is GREAT for Golfing Eagles
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Since we’re in Hurricane Season, with the water so unusually warm, I worry
about if a Hurricane hits that water.

I don’t remember ever seeing the temps being this hot in the 26 years
I’ve lived in Florida.
Unusually warm water temps? Huh? May want to reread the thread a few weeks ago that called that biased report bogus.
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Unusually warm water temps? Huh? May want to reread the thread a few weeks ago that called that biased report bogus.
I recall one or two posters claiming it was bogus but others pointed out the opposite.

The high temp readings are still in the history for that particular buoy.

I have not seen any articles stating the readings were bogus. Please add links if there are some that I missed.
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You just don’t understand we’re in a 8 years cooling trend that’s been repeated several times in Weather Forum.
You see I see it but others don't
Ross Island wit have a high of -34° and a low of -51° atmospheric conditions at clear.
My unofficial weather station says it’s 98° in the shade…
OP, is talking about water temps. plain and simple and how they could make a hurricane more powerful. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”. Andy Rooney. The water temps in the Atlantic are currently more warmer than usual. That the facts plain and simple and as the OP said this is not good for a new hurricane.
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Your swimming pool temp (with a pump circulating the water) is not the same as the temp of the Atlantic or the Gulf. Apples and oranges. “You can be young over half of your life but you can be immature and stubborn all of your life.” Anonymous
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We are still less likely to have a hurricane this year. The conditions are impacted by so many other variables. Underwater currents contribute to water temps much more than ambient temperatures. Anyone who tries to frame this as just the sun being hotter is untruthful and not scientific. Holistically all inputs for water temperature are needed for a substantial hypothesis of cause. The Sigsbee Deep is within mean for the year, however the North Equatorial is about.3 degrees warmer with a Standard Deviation of 1 degree Celsius. Gulf Stream water isn’t as heavily exchanging with the Northern Atlantic currents.

Keep in mind we should be at solar Maximus which now is peaking in late December? This breaks slightly from the 2025 prediction, but is by no means atypical of the 11 year cycle variation. Currents should cool if the suns rays do their flip by April giving us a much cooler ambient temp AND current changes again.

Without throwing too much into all the water temperatures amalgamations, we seem to be having heavier Sahara winds latent with dust. The dust suppresses storm activity quite a bit.

If you are into agenda driven hype, there are 3 storms in the Atlantic now. Fun fact: since 1851 only eighteen hurricane seasons passed without a known storm impacting the state of Florida. We average a little over 3 per season.
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You gots some proof it wasn't a correct temp reading?
As far as the pool theory. You have a circulating pump. It continually circulates water from a shaded area. If you don't believe me shut the pump off for four or five days and then tell me what the temperature is.
Proof? Here's the proof: IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

And you think that a 4 foot deep 12,000 gallon pool with a circulating pump is a good analogy to a 20,000 foot deep 22 quintillion gallon ocean. PPPPLLLLEEEEEZZZZEEEEE
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I'm tired of the non-stop bs about the 7 year cooling trend you espouse at every occasion.

See the attached article. One of many articles about this "statistic" you use to "prove" your case and deny we have a problem.

Steven Hawking - before his death - stated mankind wouldn't be around by 2100. I'm in the camp if you deniers don't stop burying your heads in the sand he'll be right.

Tell the people who have died because of the continuing heat wave we don't have a problem.

Fact Check-Eight cooler years cannot be extrapolated to draw conclusions on long-term global warming | Reuters
First of all, I'M NOT THE POSTER WHO ESPOUSES THAT 7 YEAR COOLING TREND, so direct that comment where it belongs.

That being said, I tend to agree with that person in general, except I've said neither side can use this year, 7 years, or even 200 years to predict a change in cycles that have been repeating for 4 1/2 million years.

And people dying in this "heat wave"???? Really???? You're right, this year is the first year, EVER, that people died in a "heat wave". right??? What a joke!
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Tropical weather that drifts over from Africa always hits the warm water of the Caribbean and Gulf. Please tell us you didn't believe that idiotic report that water temperature in key Largo was 101.1. Pretty amazing when you consider a 12,000 gallon pool on your lanai reaches 87 with no waves pulling in cooler water from deeper areas, but the 22 trillion gallon Atlantic gets to 101.1 with constant waves hitting the shore. I call BS, double BS and triple BS. Somebody must think we're pretty stupid.
I think I spotted a stupid one!
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