[jebartle]

Please please let's keep these postings clean without political rhetoric...Don't you think that the media and the internet has made it sooooo easy for fueling hatred...You can post statements when you are NOT accountable...When did debate become obsolete? IF you were confronting the individual IN PERSON, would your statements be the same?

[cologal]

This is an American tragedy a public servant has been gunned down applying the 1st Amendment of the Constitution she read on the floor of the House just days ago.

We should all be saddened by what has happened. Each in our own way should be thinking about these family's and the burden they now have to bare.

[Cathy H]

It is tragic. Once again we see a seriously disturbed individual, with a gun.
Do we really want to continue to live with such liberal gun regulations?

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

It is tragic. Once again we see a seriously disturbed individual, with a gun.
Do we really want to continue to live with such liberal gun regulations?

The original poster asked that this post not include political rhetoric. I think the statement above about such liberal gun regulations is just that.
We would like to move this thread to political like we did the last one?
There is a very simple common sense answer to the liberal gun regulation claim above but I will hold my "ammunition" so to speak if everyone else does in this thread.
JJ

[Larry Wilson]

So sad. The 9 year old little girl was born on 9/11. She was a symbol of hope from that terrible day. This is a mass killing and so sad. The judge was coming from Mass. Again so sad. This needs to be discussed. This needs to be stopped.

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

So sad. The 9 year old little girl was born on 9/11. She was a symbol of hope from that terrible day. This is a mass killing and so sad. The judge was coming from Mass. Again so sad. This needs to be discussed. This needs to be stopped.

Off we go to Political again.

[Larry Wilson]

What???????????? What statements are political??????Guess I know why no one posts!

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

What???????????? What statements are political??????Guess I know why no one posts!

You said: This needs to be discussed. This needs to be stopped.

The discussion on how it can be stopped will surely turn political, gun control. I will gladly discuss it but the creator of this thread specifically asked that we not do that in this thread.
Please start a thread in political on stopping this sort of crime and I will gladly post my ideas there.
JJ

[Larry Wilson]

Jim,
Went to brunch with 38 people and we discussed it. Going to dinner with 12 different people and we will discuss it. That's what I meant! I'm not a big fan of beautiful innocent people, especially a precious little girl getting murdered. If you think that is political...you are making it political. I think it is National News and maybe World News. Done. I prefer to talk with open minded people.
Larry

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

Jim,
Went to brunch with 38 people and we discussed it. Going to dinner with 12 different people and we will discuss it. That's what I meant! I'm not a big fan of beautiful innocent people, especially a precious little girl getting murdered. If you think that is political...you are making it political. I think it is National News and maybe World News. Done. I prefer to talk with open minded people.
Larry

Larry: I agree with you completely that it needs to be discussed.
I am sorry but maybe I did not make myself clear that my only point in this thread that we should try to keep the content in this thread away from the politics which include gun control and incarceration of the mentally ill.
I wish I could join you and your friends in a discussion of these issues. They surely need to be discussed.
I only hope that people will discuss it without making accusations without proof, and will keep it civil.
This is truly a great tragedy, for all of the victims, their families, and America. Nothing justifies it.

[jebartle]

really wanted to discuss how political rhetoric turns to "hatred" in political discussions (which incidently doesn't mean we have to discuss those issues)....How debate is NOT accountable because we are talking in cyber space (similar to road rage), hateful discussions rarely occur when you are "face to face" (We are more CONSIDERATE and POLITE) strange, Huh?....Why can't we really debate without getting personal....Politician and network hosts are just as guilty and certainly contribute to the political climate of the past few years!

[faithfulfrank]

This is so truly sad.
Prayers are going up for all families affected.
I was also saddened when I read all of the finger pointing within minutes of the tragedy.

I truly do not understand how this could be construed as political. I want to be respectful to the non political theme of this thread and not say anything wrong......as I see this it was a case of a very disturbed young person who had very serious issues........with a tragic result.

I read posts on msnbc, where tons of posters were blaming Palin, Beck, fox news, etc.........SO disrespectful to try to spin it that way it made me sick to my stomach......to try to gain political mileage from this is almost as sick as the act itself.

I think of this little 9 year old girl whose life will always be remembered as being born in tragedy and died in tragedy.

Another sad reminder that we indeed live in a fallen world. none of us are guaranteed the next hour......life is a precious gift that we too often forget the value of.

Frank

[Taj44]

Originally Posted by JimJoe

You said: This needs to be discussed. This needs to be stopped.

The discussion on how it can be stopped will surely turn political, gun control. I will gladly discuss it but the creator of this thread specifically asked that we not do that in this thread.
Please start a thread in political on stopping this sort of crime and I will gladly post my ideas there.
JJ

I don't think the discussion has anything to do with gun control. I just think that people who post pictures of our lawmakers in their "crosshairs" with a picture of a rifle, need to be held accountable. Surely, anyone can see that gun imagery like that (not related to gun rights) directed at members of one particular political party, sends a hateful message that fuels and motivates the crazies out there. I also think tabloid news stations like Fox and the political extremeists are way out of line with their rhetoric, which does nothing but divide the country. Hate has never been the answer and never will be.

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Taj44

I don't think the discussion has anything to do with gun control. I just think that people who post pictures of our lawmakers in their "crosshairs" with a picture of a rifle, need to be held accountable. Surely, anyone can see that gun imagery like that (not related to gun rights) directed at members of one particular political party, sends a hateful message that fuels and motivates the crazies out there. I also think tabloid news stations like Fox and the political extremeists are way out of line with their rhetoric, which does nothing but divide the country. Hate has never been the answer and never will be.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pali...trict-in-2010/

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by JimJoe

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pali...trict-in-2010/

The above link leads us to where the real truth is as to where the real hate resides. It's too bad and shameful that some have a desparate need to make the incident political and take political advantages of such a senseless and tradgic occurance That's the last thing this nation needs at this time!