[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Looking for next wife

Welcome to the Freedom Cafe
We trust you to make your own choices if you want to wear a face mask and in the same spirit of our individual liberty, we allow our staff to make their own choices about the safety procedures they prefer as they prepare and serve your food. We encourage our employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom but we do understand that some people may be allergic to certain soaps or may simply prefer not to wash their hands. It is not our place to infringe on their freedoms and tell them what to do.We understand that you may be used to and expect chicken that has been cooked to 165 degrees, however, we do have to respect that some of our cooks may have seen a meme or a youtube video that says that 100 degrees is sufficient and we allow that because we do not want to encroach on their beliefs. Some servers may want to touch your food as they serve it and, as such, there is no reason a healthy person with clean hands can't touch your food. In the interest of freedom, we will take their word for it that they are healthy and clean. Water temperature and use of detergent are highly personal choices so we are allowing our dishwasher team to decide how they prefer to wash the silverware that you will be putting in your mouth. Some of you may get sick, but almost everyone survives food poisoning. We think you will agree that it is a small price to pay for the sweet freedom of no one ever being told what to do and especially not for the super silly reason of helping to keep complete strangers healthy.

That was beautiful. Kudos!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You just can't snap your fingers and WILL a "normal lifestyle". We have to WAIT and hope that enough people get vaccinated to achieve a risk-free herd immunity. The anti-vaxxers could upset the "normal lifestyle".

Naw, I am not one to take advice from folks that I do not believe in. I prefer KNOWN experts and they tell me that I can live "normal" again. According to the political "experts" we will never go back to "normal." What other folks do is none of my business. I do not insist that they do as I do, and I do not fear them. If someone does not approve of my "inoculated and covid free" normal lifestyle, then it is up to them to stay away from me. Not the other way around. I did my "patriotic, ha,ha, duty" by getting my shots and now I am SAFE. Everyone has been screaming that the world MUST/MUST get their vaccinations, so now they need to back off and allow us to live again.

I will take a shorter GREAT life, over a LONG, long, long mentally, physically and controlled life. If folks are fine with wearing a mask for the rest of their lives, I think my great-grandson has a "Binky" that they can make several masks from. I did my duty and wore my paper and home made masks for the past year and now I am finished. Back to normal. Everyone must do what one must do to make themselves feel happy.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by MSchad

CDC says you can still spread covid if vaccinated or not. So what is the point of a passport? Now if you couldn’t catch it or spread it, then that would be totally different.

False.

"After warning for months that vaccinated people should still be cautious in order to not infect others, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests they may not be at much risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

OK, I will try to explain why Not getting vaccinated COULD have deadly consequences to the entire human race. Fully vaccinated people have almost zero chance of spreading CV. The anti-vaxxers will be spreading it among themselves and children under 16 (until they can be vaccinated). This will allow the VIRUS to evolve or mutate into a POSSIBLY (?) greater KILLER of HUMANS. It COULD (?) evolve to the point that it can avoid our current vaccines. That would be a DISASTER. Nobody wants that dire situation. 80% of the people in the US COULD (?) have all their effort and expense to get vaccinated to be for NOTHING - because of the 20% of anti-vaxxers that would not be vaccinated. Then, the US deaths would possibly double to 1 MILLION. And people would start over needing a NEW vaccine. ALL anti-vaxxers should think long and hard about whether they want to treat themselves and their fellow citizens that callously! The shots are free to the patient and have few side effects or dangers - they are also readily available. Think about it!

Let me explain all the things wrong with your post. First, historically, Covid viruses have mutated to the point they became less able or unable to transfer between humans, in 2 to 3 years. So although the the opposite is possible, history would indicate otherwise. Second, Dr Fauci has previously stated that we would achieve herd immunity if 70% of the population has been vaccinated...

[MSchad]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

False.

"After warning for months that vaccinated people should still be cautious in order to not infect others, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests they may not be at much risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

So in other words, the vaccines are 100% effective. And the reports of those that have been vaccinated and still contracted the virus are false. And if true, they still couldn’t spread it? And, Dr. Fauci was just on the news saying vaccinated still need to wear masks to prevent spreading in case they unknowingly have the virus. Hmmm

[coralway]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Heard on the news that half the country has been vaccinated. I saw a map with deep colors showing counties with the most vaccination. Sumter county stands out right away on a map of Florida.

I wonder what percentage of Villagers have been vaccinated.

I am guessing about 70%.

I am proud of our careful thinking of ourselves and others.

Seeing as how TV is about 95% white, I would guesstimate about 80-85% by now have at least the first dose

[lennythenet]

ENOUGH is when people finally say “I am vaccinated, I am not wearing this mask anymore! “

[fishon]

Ha, ha.
You will die of something.
The government statistics will claim covid.
Stay frightened my friends.
Your government expects it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

Based on the governors executive order, that was probably illegal for them to ask if you had been vaccinated as a condition of entry.

Does the governor's executive order apply to social gatherings not involving businesses?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by popbaby2

Because it is 95% effective. You can still give it to me. I will probably not die but i can pass it on. And that person may die. You are being selfish.

I would use another word but that would not go over very big.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

Sumter is doing relatively well, most new cases are younger people in the coastal population areas.

Covid Act Now

Yes,, after spring break.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JimmyDebbie

My husband and I survived Covid last October (not hospitalized) and still have Covid antibodies. Studies that I’ve researched indicate that T-cell immunity also should work against Covid variants and will most likely trigger a lifetime response against Covid. I will take my God-given immune system and how it works over receiving a vaccine. I respect those who have not had Covid and choose to take a vaccine and believe that respect should work both ways for those of us who choose not to take a vaccine (especially if that person has already had covid and has immunity).

Some people with CV have gotten a worse dose of CV after a few months. Check that out for information.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

"Masks has been a normal in some parts of the world for decades. No one gives it a second thought. "

Normal??? If you count Muslim countries as "normal" then I guess you may have a point. Some in urban areas of Japan wear masks, but I do not know if that would be considered "normal" for Japan. I have heard of many things in THIS country that are deemed "normal" by a few folks, but not the majority which would define "normal."

The rest of your comparison is not really a valid argument, but I do get what you are suggesting.

And nope, I do not think that I have had the virus in the past year of shopping at many stores. I have lived my life as normal as possible and do wear a mask ONLY where it is posted. I am seriously considering whether I intend to continue to wear one in those places after observing many folks that do not. I know of many folks that have had the virus and shrugged it off easier than a cold, and I am in better shape than them.

As for the post requesting that someone "stay away from me" I have stayed my distance from most people as much as I have been able, for many years. That is my norm. That has been my habit in order to protect myself from other illnesses. But, like I have said several times in the past, it is not up to me to protect anyone else. The responsibility for protection is on the person wishing that protection, not everyone else around that person. If one gets the vaccination and still worries about catching the virus, perhaps they should think about why they bothered to get inoculated to begin with. If a person comes around me that has refused to get vaccinated, it is not up to me to "stay away" from them when they have the choice to be near or not. I take responsibility for myself and only those I choose. It is not a moral, ethical or patriotic imperative that I assume responsibility for someone else's careless behavior. I do believe that I am mostly considerate of others....but not responsible for their welfare.

The principle of social security and other modern government programs IS that we are ALL responsible for each other. We SHARE responsibility for roads, bridges, and national defense. It is just like one big giant TEAM. You get the benefits of that teamwork. The John Wayne-like frontier hero is long gone.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by alehew

If you get the vaccine why do u still wear a mask. Fauci has flipped back and forth. People are dying from the vaccine. I personally don't care if you get it or not but its everyone's freedom to choose.

Please read post # 87

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Because an individual has ignored all advice from experts and has not died of COVID does not mean they are right, it just means they have been lucky.

I just got back from 3 weeks in Ecuador, and the difference between here and there is incredible. I stayed in Cuenca and ate out most of the time I was there. The reason, I did was the precautions I saw in place. In 3 weeks in a large city I saw maybe 3 or 4 people without masks on, and they appeared to be American/European tourists. EVERY store you enter has a door mat with disinfectant to wide your feet as you go into the store. Every store/restaurant has a person that sprays your hands and most also take your temperature, as you enter. If it is a restaurant, when you get to your table they spray or wipe down the table. All tables are at social distancing separation. If you hang around and people leave, you will see their tables be disinfected when they leave. Almost everywhere you you go there are disinfectant dispensers by doors, on sidewalks etc. for public use.

All of those precautions are inexpensive, and easy to implement. None of them guarantee you won't get COVID, but every little bit helps. But I think even more importantly, everyone seemed to want to help, to do what they could to help. The attitude was NOT they were being forced to do these things, it was they wanted to help each other.

Which is the point.

It seems so many people here are of the opinion the if there isn't a perfect solution/protection, they are not going to do anything. They feel that if anyone or the government suggests anything to help, they are going instantly into anger mode and refusing just on principle - no one is taking away their rights. Instead of asking, "What I can do to help", the attitude here, "I can do anything I want - I have my rights!"

With COVID, all the precautions, distancing, masks, washing hands, etc. all help. None are perfect, but they help. They are easy, they are a way each of us can show we care about each other.

In Ecuador there were no visible arguments about wearing masks, EVERYONE (99.9%) just did it. Everyone (99.9%) thank store employees for disinfecting customer hands and taking temperatures.

It's sad we hate each other so much.

That was a good post. And, nice dog!