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Old 08-23-2010, 07:24 AM
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Why isn't this in political? Yes, I understand the question is about people making fools out of themselves in idolizing jerks, but since it was directed at a specific political person (sorry, refuse to say his name) and the whole issue is because of politics, I really think this is in the wrong forum.
There is nothing political about this unless somebody makes it so. It's not about politics, it's about a criminal. It knows no political boundaries. The only way this would become political is if somebody starts discussing politics.

It is possible, you know, to discuss an issue like this without making it political. Really, it is possible you know.
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There is nothing political about this unless somebody makes it so. It's not about politics, it's about a criminal. It knows no political boundaries. The only way this would become political is if somebody starts discussing politics.

It is possible, you know, to discuss an issue like this without making it political. Really, it is possible you know.
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Ok here goes. I am very conservative and a regular viewer of foxnews (and as much msnbc as I can stand for balance) BUT today on Fox News Sunday Chris Wallace was so rude to Gov Bla that I wanted to scream. His first question was, you were selling pics and autographs today, is there nothing you will do to make money? ... my comment back would be oh really, well its nothing like the books, and gold and FREE power chairs you guys sell on this network..

COME ON... what kind of an question is that..it was a rhetorical putdown.. right off the bat.
he was rude throughout, interrupting, constantly accusing the gov of things, and just plain mean. I do not like Gov Bla and I would have convicted him easily by "keep it simple stupid" trial strategy, but I like Foxnews less for that one.. the lady (blonde as usual as I recall) who introduced the clip, said something like watch this...Chris really tears into GB. Well I gotta say.. as a regular foxnews viewer, the left will just love showing clips of that interview to show how unfair foxnews is.
FN managed to make him look GB look good.
Yes this is a rude posting calling Chris Wallace rude.

And knocking Fox News without cause. For example do you know that all networks sell books, gold and power chairs.

Also why do you not like blond ladies?

And don't worry nobody not even Fox news can make the corrupt ex gov. look good.

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Old 08-23-2010, 08:33 AM
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I think I know why this may have happened.

The other morning Blagojevich was on the "Today" show. Every time he was asked a question, he ignored it. Instead he replied with gibberish of his choosing totally apart from the question. Each and every time.

As a longtime television and radio interviewer myself, I can tell you that there are times when it is professionally acceptable to treat the interviewee as being hostile. You can't let the interviewee control the interview. You have to keep them reigned in, otherwise it becomes a platform for their agenda.

I know, some will say that reporters, too, have an agenda. I never did, I just wanted to get the job done right and report the facts.

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Old 08-23-2010, 08:50 AM
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If you want a different picture of Bonnie and Clyde from the one portrayed in movies like 1967's Bonnie and Clyde (Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway), read Jeff Guinn's book Go Down Together: the True, Untold Story of Bonnie and Clyde.

This book hardly makes heroes out of Bonnie and Clyde. They are two inept criminals according to the book often resporting for their takes to breaking into gum ball machines.

Sounds like the former Illlinois governor was of the same vein of folly as the Bonnie and Clyde characterized in Go Down Together.

The cops do not come off all that well either in Go Down Together. They seem like either goons or Keystone Cops.

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It is about time that the interviewer held the interviewee's feet to the fire.(is interviewee a word and is holding someone's feet to a fire even a metaphor?) LOL

I am tired of so-called interviews that are really only a platform for propaganda. I want real questions with real answers.
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It is about time that the interviewer held the interviewee's feet to the fire.(is interviewee a word and is holding someone's feet to a fire even a metaphor?) LOL

I am tired of so-called interviews that are really only a platform for propaganda. I want real questions with real answers.
Ditto on this comment. Also, His way of justifying what he did because "Everyone in Washington does it" was like saying if you rob a bank why cant I.
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Next time Blago should run in Louisiana. A Senator is a lot cheaper there.

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Old 08-23-2010, 11:20 AM
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As an ex-Illinoisan (and so long ago, Gov. Rod was probably still in junior high), I'm looking at it like watching a train wreck about to happen. You can't do anything about it, so sit back and wait for the crash.

That said, and following up on the comments about George Ryan, I was in Illinois, indeed working in the Statehouse, during the reign of Gov. Dan Walker, who spent a few years as a guest of the public in a federal lockup.

Election as a governor in Illinois is almost like a ticket to prison.

BTW, before it gets partisan, Illinois governors with prison records cross party lines.

It's something in the water in Springfield.
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...on the "Today" show. Every time he was asked a question, he ignored it. Instead he replied with gibberish of his choosing totally apart from the question. Each and every time.


JLK
Just once when one of these jerks says "... the real question is blah, blah.." I'd like the moderator to shut off the guys mike and say "hey moron... if that was the real question I would have asked it. Now try again."
Sadly, it's not just Larry King that lets everyone get away with this. Saw it just last night on Fox when a candidate dodged the "anchor baby" question and got away with it. The questioner almost got him pinned down but it was like catching a greased pig.
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I think people like to bring well known people down from their high horse and then watch and see if they can scramble to the top again so they can repeat the process.
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There is nothing political about this unless somebody makes it so........
Oh, cut me some slack Talk Host. We all know why this thread is not in the political forum. And you’re making it worse by trying to defend your logic for putting it in this forum.

You established the rules and made the political forum invisible to those that don’t want to read about this stuff in TOTV. So how about leading by example and move this thread to where it belongs.
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There are really some nasty people voicing their opinions. If you don't like what you're reading or feel its in the wrong place.........DON'T READ IT!!!
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Well Frank, perhaps you should follow your own advice. If you don’t like what I post here, then DON’T READ IT !

For those of you who might not be aware, a while back, the administrators moved the political forum into a private area so that you needed to voluntarily join that forum to even see it or have the threads show up.

This was done in response to numerous complaints from members about the number of mindless threads from the political forum cluttering up the ‘New Posts’ list. And there was nothing in the topic line of this thread that even hinted that it would be highly controversial political fodder.

I find nothing nasty of me pointing this out to Talk Host and suggesting that he too should color within the lines.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:07 PM
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Case in point Ron Blagojevich. Today, I saw a crowd reaching out to touch him like he was the pope. He was high fiving them. He's on every morning TV show, every news interview show. He was even on that Donald Trump show.

The guy is a no good hoodlum, thief, crook. He's laughing at us behind that pasty smirk and phony hairdo.

I know it's not fair to judge a person by looks alone, but he even looks like a crook.

Aside from that I think he's an okay guy.

JLK

What were the charges against him? Someone refresh my memory. What was the outcome of the trial? Is it political when you discuss the actual facts of the case? I'm just trying to understand.
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