[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

This, like almost every other monetary matter Congress and the administrations get their hands on and manipulate, could be stopped if term limits of one, single term of 3 or 6 years were put into place on Congress members, with no further runs for congressional office allowed. Their constant goal of getting re-elected and using our money to play Santa Claus to get votes needs to stop.

They need to be sent home after one term to work and earn and pay the bills like the rest of us do.

Term limits are good for the presidency, so why not have them for Congress, too!! Problem is, THEY would never vote that through.

I've been saying this for years. One term and done, six years for reps and nine years for senators. Replace one third of each house every three years. Of course they would still spend some time trying to get members of their party elected to replace them, but it would cut down a lot of what they do in terms of campaigning unless it was just prohibited.

And while we're at it, let's cut the president to one term of six years and prohibit him from campaigning for anyone while in office.

Of course we're asking our legislatures to do this to themselves so I doubt that it will never happen. The only shot of it actually happening would be if we grandfathered those currently in office. If that happened it could take many years before the system is in full effect.

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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Well...the surprise amnesty ruling may be a good place to start.

It's all in one's perspective. There is a root cause for every action and looking at the big picture situation, there were plenty of bipartisan opportunities to avoid actions like that.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by quirky3

It's all in one's perspective. There is a root cause for every action and looking at the big picture situation, there were plenty of bipartisan opportunities to avoid actions like that.

Things will get better in January.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by fred53

I do care as a federal retiree. Why are you trying to speak for everyone when you don't know everyone? Are you just fanning the flames?

Thank you.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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Well...the surprise amnesty ruling may be a good place to start.

First, it was not a surprise. The President said it would be done before the end of the year.

Is the alternative to forcibly round up 11 million people (some with legal citizen children) and deport them - separating the parents from children, since you cannot deport a legally born citizen to a country they were not born in?

Let's show some compassion.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by quirky3

It's all in one's perspective. There is a root cause for every action and looking at the big picture situation, there were plenty of bipartisan opportunities to avoid actions like that.

Of course there was ...wink....wink

[quirky3]

Sarcasm has never been and cannot be a form of wit. Those who think so may be half right.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Sarcasm has never been and cannot be a form of wit. Those who think so may be half right.

Now, that is witty.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

First, it was not a surprise. The President said it would be done before the end of the year.

Is the alternative to forcibly round up 11 million people (some with legal citizen children) and deport them - separating the parents from children, since you cannot deport a legally born citizen to a country they were not born in?

Let's show some compassion.

I am not sure why the presumed basis (by some) is if you are not for amnesty you are for "...forcibly round up 11 million people (some with legal citizen children) and deport them - separating the parents from children..."
That is simply not the case.

The compasion (lack of enforcement) shown to date has been over all these recent years to do just about nothing to those here illegally and nothing done to those marching in every day. In addition the enforcement of deporting those who have been ordered departed is almost non existent.

What never seems to get discussed are the benefits costing billions of tax dollars for the illgals in the amnesty bill. The bill provides benefits not available to many American citizens.

The amnesty bill does nothing about closing down the border and ramping up enforcement. Is it not a simple logic that before one sets up benefits for illegals to cut off the input that will only grow the illegal ranks daily.....just like it is doing right now.

While slightly off topic this subject will definitely have a future impact on retirement funds of existing American citizens.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

First, it was not a surprise. The President said it would be done before the end of the year.

Is the alternative to forcibly round up 11 million people (some with legal citizen children) and deport them - separating the parents from children, since you cannot deport a legally born citizen to a country they were not born in?

Let's show some compassion.

Sandtrap - The illegals who have come here have done so with the knowledge that they would live in the shadows without the benefits of being a U.S. citizen; that was their choice. Those who have come here and overstayed their visa have done so with full knowledge that what they are doing is illegal which leaves them subject to the possibility of the deportation process. Those are decisions the illegals have made and the chances they have decided to take...risking the sunlight on themselves and their famlies.

Why try to round them up and deport them? Why not allow them to live under the conditions they chose for themselves and their family? Why not secure the borders and PREVENT more illegals from gaining access the the U.S. Why not invest additional funding into I.C.E. to provide for processing the illegals currently in custody and resolving their future to deport or stay? Why not allow the existing laws re an immigrant's path to citizenshipto work?

Compassion for illegals is fine - and it is okay if it simply stops at leaving the illegals to the choices they have made. Remember the old saying - Charity begins at home? Have you looked around yourself and beyond your immediate surroundings to know how much charity is needed right here for our own born in the U.S. of A. citizens from infants to elders? Why not show that same compassion to OUR OWN before showing it to illegals? Why not get involved with 'Support Our Soldiers' - the very soldiers who fought for the freedoms that you and the illegals enjoy today [http://projectsosusa.homestead.com/index.html]

Compassion/support for illegals simply drains what precious few resources the American people of the lower and middle economic tiers have for themselves - jobs, incomes, social security, medicare, savings and pensions.

[scarecrow1]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

This, like almost every other monetary matter Congress and the administrations get their hands on and manipulate, could be stopped if term limits of one, single term of 3 or 6 years were put into place on Congress members, with no further runs for congressional office allowed. Their constant goal of getting re-elected and using our money to play Santa Claus to get votes needs to stop.

They need to be sent home after one term to work and earn and pay the bills like the rest of us do.

Term limits are good for the presidency, so why not have them for Congress, too!! Problem is, THEY would never vote that through.

There are term limits already. They call it voting.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Sarcasm has never been and cannot be a form of wit. Those who think so may be half right.

Sarcasm is in the eye of the beholder....there was no sarcasm intended in the response!

[scarecrow1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Things will get better in January.

We'll see???

[scarecrow1]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Sarcasm has never been and cannot be a form of wit. Those who think so may be half right.

That's one person's opinion !!!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Sarcasm has never been and cannot be a form of wit. Those who think so may be half right.

Passive aggression is another way to disguise anger. Everybody uses some form of trying to act polite, cool, or in control, when they are really upset.