[GeriS]

Originally Posted by robbroyy

I notice in a recent NY Daily News article that several US senators, including our former governor, are not getting vaccinated. Will they get diplomatic passports instead of vaccination passports for their foreign travels?

Maybe because they know what's in it. Info available at the CDC website. You might be surprised, or horrified.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

I don’t trust our Government one bit and we definitely don’t need them tracking us anymore then they already do. Read some history books!

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

When its mandatory for travel, then what? How are you going to feel about inaccurate spelling then?

My card is correct, given by the military. I travel with military ID, which my vaccine is tied to my records.
If you read the post, there were 4 people whose white card, that was incorrect. It’s a white card, not tied to any government ID, that I am pretty sure a 5yo with a good scanner and printer can duplicate

[J1ceasar]

Actually federal database

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Horrible idea to have proof you and others are vaccinated before crowding onto a plane? Maybe for you but I prefer to know that the person next to me is protected like I am. Just common decency

Why? If you are protected, why do you feel the need to have all others share your sentiments? I don’t understand the obsession with people demanding that everyone get vaccinated...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Horrible idea to have proof you and others are vaccinated before crowding onto a plane? Maybe for you but I prefer to know that the person next to me is protected like I am. Just common decency

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

When its mandatory for travel, then what? How are you going to feel about inaccurate spelling then?

Yes, horrible idea. I don't think some people realize what a slippery slope it could become. I find it hard to believe that people are so paralyzed by fear of what in the scheme of things for the last 1000 years is an insignificant virus that they would be willing to sacrifice the freedoms many have fought and died for. And don't tell me 500,000 + died, etc etc., it is still insignificant when put in perspective.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Tom52

Why are they still calling me to schedule my first dose when I have already had both doses? I would question the accuracy of such a database.

Good point Tom!

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

The white card I have was hand-scribbled with a smudgey ink pen by a couple people (yes, real official - like someone can’t produce a million of them in one day that look more official than the one I have) — there is no way to validate or really confirm against any ‘golden’ source.
Just my opinion - Covid vaccine data is probably as good as the data used by the CDC to report the ‘cause of death’ data for this past year, probably as accurate as the voting data from the last election, probably as accurate as the data tracked for those entering and leaving the country and certainly as accurate as the data used by those callers I get almost everyday telling me they are from the SSA & my Social Security number has been jeopardized..... :-).

Since I have had the vaccine - I have been contacted by UF and The Villages Health to “‘come-on-in’ for your vaccines!!” Sure, that is nice - but, how is that National or State or CDC database working? Really - what is this telling us ——— it tells us that our government is not able to capture and govern data in a secure, consistent and trusted manner.

I do have my smudgy hand written Covid vaccine card - yeah!!!! Wow — I still have my Original SSN card - and even that was printed - on probably one of the first printers ever made back in the 60s.

[davephan]

I think it’s pretty easy to imagine that the COVID vaccination record will be required to board airlines, cruise ships, and stadium events in the future. The vaccination record card is larger than a credit card, which is pretty brain dead. They should have made the vaccination proof card the same size as a credit card so that it fits in a wallet.

I think that the seniors in Florida are going to top out at 70% to 75% vaccinations. The lower ages will have much more people who decide that they don’t want the vaccination. If and when the airlines, cruise ships, stadiums, and other large crowd events required the proof of vaccinations, those percentages will increase. But there will always be people who refuse the vaccinations.

[Buckeye Bob]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

i guess you believe vaccine passports are a bad idea?

yes.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by davephan

I think it’s pretty easy to imagine that the COVID vaccination record will be required to board airlines, cruise ships, and stadium events in the future. The vaccination record card is larger than a credit card, which is pretty brain dead. They should have made the vaccination proof card the same size as a credit card so that it fits in a wallet.

I think that the seniors in Florida are going to top out at 70% to 75% vaccinations. The lower ages will have much more people who decide that they don’t want the vaccination. If and when the airlines, cruise ships, stadiums, and other large crowd events required the proof of vaccinations, those percentages will increase. But there will always be people who refuse the vaccinations.

Hopefully, the "when" is NEVER.
Just what we need-----a government or a business deciding where, when and how you can travel or attend an event based upon a vaccination database. Maybe George Orwell can add an addendum to 1984.
How about polio vaccine, or measles, or pertussis? How about Hepatitis B? Meningococcus? To answer a previous poster, I don't want to sit next to a person on a plane who has meningococcemia----which is 100x as contagious and 100x as deadly as COVID. I want them to have the same protection I have. But that should NEVER happen, because what is next? Put your political party on your passport, or religion, or sexual preference, or club memberships???? Couldn't ever happen??? That's what Germans thought in 1932.
Again, be very careful about what you wish for.

[GPGuar]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I guess you believe Vaccine Passports are a bad idea?

YES!! its a bad idea!

[merrymini]

If they require proof of a vaccine, how about people who got the virus and carry natural antibodies? How do you prove that? The assumption is that the vaccine will protect you better than your own body’s defense. Not proven at all. So this “proof” would hardly be unbiased and very discriminatory.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by merrymini

If they require proof of a vaccine, how about people who got the virus and carry natural antibodies? How do you prove that? The assumption is that the vaccine will protect you better than your own body’s defense. Not proven at all. So this “proof” would hardly be unbiased and very discriminatory.

Which opens a whole other can of worms regarding vaccine "passport" How long does the immunity from the vaccine last? How long for which vaccine? How long in persons of different ages? or race? or blood type?. Since the vaccine is 95% effective, that means it is ineffective in 1 in 20 vaccinated individuals, but those people will have "proof" of immunity. How long does immunity last after you had and recovered from COVID? Does it depend on the severity of the illness? Your weight? Your eye color???Nobody knows, yet people support putting this garbage on a passport or driver's license and then restricting travel or entry to a stadium on that basis. It is strictly fear driven and has NO BASIS in reality.

[tuccillo]

I could see a point where you would need to carry proof of a positive antibody test (a blood test). That would cover the case of either having had the vaccine or having had contracted the coronavirus. For example, a positive antibody test is one of three options for entry into the US Virgin Islands.

Originally Posted by merrymini

If they require proof of a vaccine, how about people who got the virus and carry natural antibodies? How do you prove that? The assumption is that the vaccine will protect you better than your own body’s defense. Not proven at all. So this “proof” would hardly be unbiased and very discriminatory.