[Patty55]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Not everyone lives in a wild Wild West state like Florida. I am not sure the prosecution will be able to prove anything in this case other than we can see how bad this law is. All the gun bunnies will be happy

Once again, HUH? What law is that?

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Did you actually watch the testimony of the two investigating officers or are you simply repeating media bs. The prosecution allowed 4 different taped interviews of George Zimmerman to be heard by the jury today and both repeated time and time again George Zimmerman continued to repeat the same story over and over with a few minor changes. The lead detective said you would expect some changes because we are human not robots and nothing alerted me to any inconsistency. When asked at the end of the day if he believed George Zimmerman to be telling the truth he said YES.

Now where are you getting your information from???

Just a few of the points that came up today: Zimmerman said Trayvon Martin jumped out of the bushes at him, there are no bushes in that area; Zimmerman said he spread Martin's arms out to the side, yet when he was found, Martin's arms were under him. Zimmerman said he didn't know that Martin was dead, yet he reholstered his gun.

When Zimmerman gave his report, he kept calling Martin "the suspect", which shows his depraved mind, necessary for a second degree murder conviction.
What was Martin suspected of?

[JP]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Yep, it's all fun and games till you jump the wrong Creepy Ass Cracker.

Great post and how true! TM shouldn't have been in that gated community looking and acting the way he did.

[SpicyCajunPugs]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Did you actually watch the testimony of the two investigating officers or are you simply repeating media bs. The prosecution allowed 4 different taped interviews of George Zimmerman to be heard by the jury today and both repeated time and time again George Zimmerman continued to repeat the same story over and over with a few minor changes. The lead detective said you would expect some changes because we are human not robots and nothing alerted me to any inconsistency. When asked at the end of the day if he believed George Zimmerman to be telling the truth he said YES.

Now where are you getting your information from???

Agreed !!!!!

[capecodbob]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Five minutes is an ETERNITY in a fight. That is why people carry guns, so they can protect themselves when they can not wait for police to arrive in time to stop it and save them from grave bodily harm and worse. Zimmerman had already suffered a broken nose, two black eyes and cranial injuries from Martin's sucker punch followed by the MMA ground and pound. Thankfully, he had a pistol when he needed one with which to defend himself!

Congrats manaboutown...you have the best "factual" account of the case. Saw the re-enactment tonight with Greta and I don't see Zimmerman being guilty. BUT he will be haunted by the Al Sharpton race baiters for the rest of his life. He will incite many people to do harm to Zimmerman.
Everyone looses except people like Sharpton.

[redwitch]

I've come to the conclusion that the prosecution is out to lose this case. Talk about stupid to the core. Zimmerman is now off the hook to testify -- his taped reenactment takes care of that. There goes any chance of showing any discrepancies on his part, of trying to show his intent. So, whether or not he truly believed he was in mortal danger has now become totally irrelevant. Maybe the defense can ask for and be granted a directed verdict as soon as the prosecutor is done so this royal mess can be over.

[DougB]

It ain't over, till it's over.

[crummybuttons]

I've seen enough to honestly say he's innocent. TM was a punk! There I said it. When I saw the video of him in the 7/11 store I would have been a tad nervous had I been behind the counter. He looked scary the way he was dressed and acted weird. He was looking like he was going to hold the place up when he was at the register the way he was looking for his money. I've heard enough to say I don't believe GZ is guilty. I think it was self defense. And I'm tired of people always throwing up the race card. I'm shutting up.....Don't get me started.....

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Just a few of the points that came up today: Zimmerman said Trayvon Martin jumped out of the bushes at him, there are no bushes in that area; Zimmerman said he spread Martin's arms out to the side, yet when he was found, Martin's arms were under him. Zimmerman said he didn't know that Martin was dead, yet he reholstered his gun.

When Zimmerman gave his report, he kept calling Martin "the suspect", which shows his depraved mind, necessary for a second degree murder conviction.
What was Martin suspected of?

I thought we were discussing inconsistencies in his testimony - not what he said happened. I also think it interesting you find problems where the two professional investigators found none.

[gocubsgo]

Originally Posted by crummybuttons

I've seen enough to honestly say he's innocent. TM was a punk! There I said it. When I saw the video of him in the 7/11 store I would have been a tad nervous had I been behind the counter. He looked scary the way he was dressed and acted weird. He was looking like he was going to hold the place up when he was at the register the way he was looking for his money. I've heard enough to say I don't believe GZ is guilty. I think it was self defense. And I'm tired of people always throwing up the race card. I'm shutting up.....Don't get me started.....

I agree 100% with you. I also am SOOOO tired of media only showing his baby pictures and under 10 years old picture, referring to him as the boy or child. He was 17 and a MAN. Why don't they show the photo taken a month before he died where he's posing with his gun, covered in gang tatoos over a table full of growing pot? You never see THAT photo in the papers.

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

I agree 100% with you. I also am SOOOO tired of media only showing his baby pictures and under 10 years old picture, referring to him as the boy or child. He was 17 and a MAN. Why don't they show the photo taken a month before he died where he's posing with his gun, covered in gang tatoos over a table full of growing pot? You never see THAT photo in the papers.

At least the 12 YO is TM. The picture you're talking about is a rapper, not TM.

[tucson]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I've come to the conclusion that the prosecution is out to lose this case. Talk about stupid to the core. Zimmerman is now off the hook to testify -- his taped reenactment takes care of that. There goes any chance of showing any discrepancies on his part, of trying to show his intent. So, whether or not he truly believed he was in mortal danger has now become totally irrelevant. Maybe the defense can ask for and be granted a directed verdict as soon as the prosecutor is done so this royal mess can be over.

I agree.I believe the State is "going through the motions" to calm the ones that want to make this case a political issue and would like to start racial and potentially dangerous marches that can end up as riots in the streets and neighborhoods. Just my opinion...

[Happinow]

I don't feel that there are inconsistencies in his testimony. He said that Trayvon came out of the bushes....there are shrubs and he came from behind so GZ assumed he came out of the bushes. He could have been hiding in the back of an apartment where the white dividers are. GZ in fact only knew he came from behind and not where he came out of. It really doesn't make a difference, does it? TM was the aggressor and GZ was in fear for his life so he defended himself. I can't explain why he said he put TM arms out to the side after he shot him and when found his arms were under him. Perhaps someone rolled him over? If I were a juror, I would have my mind made up already. Can the judge stop the trial?? This never would have been an issue if Sharpton and his followers hadn't made a stink. Once again, the blacks make this a race thing...

[gomoho]

I am thinking Trayvon Martin wasn't dead when George Zimmerman got up after spreading his arms out and he brought his own arms in to hold his wound.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by capecodbob

Congrats manaboutown...you have the best "factual" account of the case. Saw the re-enactment tonight with Greta and I don't see Zimmerman being guilty. BUT he will be haunted by the Al Sharpton race baiters for the rest of his life. He will incite many people to do harm to Zimmerman.
Everyone looses except people like Sharpton.

Sharpton has been a loser from Day #1, IMHO