opinion/beliefs......but on some things like this current post....you must get awfully lonely way out there in left filed!!!!!!!!!

How about a novel concept? Some of us do not care what a persons' religion or color or party or gender is and make our judgments based on whether we agree with them or not....whether any of us are right or wrong, it is our opinion.

The current administration and it's supporters are NOTORIOUS for categorizing and or type casting ANYBODY that does not agree with or blindly accept what is put forth.

The state of partisan politics in this country is the worst it has ever been and is a disease that is ruining the America some of us are used to having.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

opinion/beliefs......but on some things like this current post....you must get awfully lonely way out there in left filed!!!!!!!!!

How about a novel concept? Some of us do not care what a persons' religion or color or party or gender is and make our judgments based on whether we agree with them or not....whether any of us are right or wrong, it is our opinion.

The current administration and it's supporters are NOTORIOUS for categorizing and or type casting ANYBODY that does not agree with or blindly accept what is put forth.

The state of partisan politics in this country is the worst it has ever been and is a disease that is ruining the America some of us are used to having.

btk

Actually I am left of you but definitely in center_left_field..... so I offer this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36075836...me_and_courts/

More Patriot's?..anybody want to guess if they were card carrying NRA members? This is what happens when the rhetoric gets to heated.

Originally Posted by Donna2

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2...ngry-white-men

Me thinks she makes Waynet's point here.

Originally Posted by cologal

Actually I am left of you but definitely in center_left_field..... so I offer this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36075836...me_and_courts/

More Patriot's?..anybody want to guess if they were card carrying NRA members? This is what happens when the rhetoric gets to heated.

What has your despicable link have to do with this thread that I started? This thread is about honest hard working Americans who are witnessing our country being taken over by socialist policies that are probably unconstitutional.
You people on the left will do anything to discredit anybody who is not on board with your far-left policies.

Your post is highly inflammable and should be edited from this thread.

Originally Posted by Donna2

What has your despicable link have to do with this thread that I started? This thread is about honest hard working Americans who are witnessing our country being taken over by socialist policies that are probably unconstitutional.
You people on the left will do anything to discredit anybody who is not on board with your far-left policies.

Your post is highly inflammable and should be edited from this thread.

Donna you are correct. This is pure Liberal hate speech.

Originally Posted by cashman

Donna you are correct. This is pure Liberal hate speech.

I am sure that law abiding NRA members are not happy with her linking them to cop killers, either. Disgusting.

With all due respect to everyone, we should focus on the issues, holding on to what is left of our US Constitution and restoring this country financially, morally and emotionally. We shouldn't fall into the argument of which side did what or who is worse.

It's easy to resort to name calling and spitting rhetoric. Both sides will use it to their dirty advantage. The Democrats are going to blame the recent "threats of violence" against Congressional Dems on Republicans and use the "threats" as a fundraising tool!!

"A senior adviser to the president said his party was not out of bounds in issuing fundraising appeals linked to recent threats of violence against congressional Democrats," according to CNN Political Ticker.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ed-to-threats/


"Obama senior adviser David Axelrod also suggested congressional Republicans bore some responsibility for the overheated rhetoric and incidents of vandalism directed at Democrats."

I recall the threats against AIG employees and people were asking for names of family members and AIG employees' children were even being threatened. One threat was of strangling AIG employees with piano wire. When AIG CEO Edward Liddy said he was afraid to release the names of employee who had returned all or part of their bonuses, Barney Frank basically said tough, let the police handle it if something happens but release the names or be subpoenaed.

I watched Black Panthers standing at the front door of a polling place holding a black-jack club hitting it into his hand during the last Presidential election!
I remember an Iraqi journalist throwing shoes at our President.
You know what Bush said? Did he say let's use this as a fundraiser? No.

"So what if the guy threw his shoe at me?" Bush told a reporter in response to a question about the incident.

"Let me talk about the guy throwing his shoe. It's one way to gain attention. It's like going to a political rally and having people yell at you. It's like driving down the street and having people not gesturing with all five fingers. ...

"These journalists here were very apologetic. They ... said this doesn't represent the Iraqi people, but that's what happens in free societies where people try to draw attention to themselves."

Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor had a bullet shot through his Richmond, Va., office. A man was just arrested today, who authorities believe was the shooter, for posting a Youtube video threatening Cantor. Cantor's response when the bullet was shot through his campaign office, "Let me be clear -- I do not condone violence," Cantor said at the start of his press event. "There are no leaders in this building, no rank and file members in this building, that condone violence, period."

Then he contrasted his own actions with those of Democrats who have been harassed:

"I've received threats since I assumed elected office, not only because of my position but also because I'm Jewish. I've never blamed anyone in this body for that, period. Any suggestion that a leader in this body would incite threats or acts against other members is akin to saying that I would endanger myself, my wife or my children. Just recently I have been directly threatened. A bullet was shot through the window of my campaign office in Richmond this week, and I've received threatening e-mails. But I will not release them, because I believe such actions will only encourage more to be sent," he said.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...democrats.html

It happens on both sides. What both sides are doing should be what we are looking at.

Originally Posted by Donna2

What has your despicable link have to do with this thread that I started? This thread is about honest hard working Americans who are witnessing our country being taken over by socialist policies that are probably unconstitutional.
You people on the left will do anything to discredit anybody who is not on board with your far-left policies.

Your post is highly inflammable and should be edited from this thread.

So let me get this straight...a story from the national news about a bunch of right wing, gun carrying Christians who wanted to start a movement to overthrow the current government (from the story not my words) is highly inflammatory... But you respond with an inflammatory comment about the socialist government and its probable unconstitutional policies and thats ok.

Sure....

You can call me anything but that doesn't mean it is true...I am no more a lefty than you are. I may be left of you but no where near a lefty. You can't change reality.....

Originally Posted by cologal

Yes Donna...it is part of the process for one party to stand up and cheer and the other to sit on their hands. It is also standard practice to boo and whistle...but I asked you if any Dem made a direct statement like Joe Wilson did when he said "You Lie". But we both no the answer to that.

You claim only the Dems do these things and I won't admit it...but you need to look at yourself and your party as well.

Amazing to behold that what was booed.....that SS is going down the tube is what happened..go figure !

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

With all due respect to everyone, we should focus on the issues, holding on to what is left of our US Constitution and restoring this country financially, morally and emotionally. We shouldn't fall into the argument of which side did what or who is worse.

It's easy to resort to name calling and spitting rhetoric. Both sides will use it to their dirty advantage. The Democrats are going to blame the recent "threats of violence" against Congressional Dems on Republicans and use the "threats" as a fundraising tool!!

"A senior adviser to the president said his party was not out of bounds in issuing fundraising appeals linked to recent threats of violence against congressional Democrats," according to CNN Political Ticker.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ed-to-threats/


"Obama senior adviser David Axelrod also suggested congressional Republicans bore some responsibility for the overheated rhetoric and incidents of vandalism directed at Democrats."

I recall the threats against AIG employees and people were asking for names of family members and AIG employees' children were even being threatened. One threat was of strangling AIG employees with piano wire. When AIG CEO Edward Liddy said he was afraid to release the names of employee who had returned all or part of their bonuses, Barney Frank basically said tough, let the police handle it if something happens but release the names or be subpoenaed.

I watched Black Panthers standing at the front door of a polling place holding a black-jack club hitting it into his hand during the last Presidential election!
I remember an Iraqi journalist throwing shoes at our President.
You know what Bush said? Did he say let's use this as a fundraiser? No.

"So what if the guy threw his shoe at me?" Bush told a reporter in response to a question about the incident.

"Let me talk about the guy throwing his shoe. It's one way to gain attention. It's like going to a political rally and having people yell at you. It's like driving down the street and having people not gesturing with all five fingers. ...

"These journalists here were very apologetic. They ... said this doesn't represent the Iraqi people, but that's what happens in free societies where people try to draw attention to themselves."

Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor had a bullet shot through his Richmond, Va., office. A man was just arrested today, who authorities believe was the shooter, for posting a Youtube video threatening Cantor. Cantor's response when the bullet was shot through his campaign office, "Let me be clear -- I do not condone violence," Cantor said at the start of his press event. "There are no leaders in this building, no rank and file members in this building, that condone violence, period."

Then he contrasted his own actions with those of Democrats who have been harassed:

"I've received threats since I assumed elected office, not only because of my position but also because I'm Jewish. I've never blamed anyone in this body for that, period. Any suggestion that a leader in this body would incite threats or acts against other members is akin to saying that I would endanger myself, my wife or my children. Just recently I have been directly threatened. A bullet was shot through the window of my campaign office in Richmond this week, and I've received threatening e-mails. But I will not release them, because I believe such actions will only encourage more to be sent," he said.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...democrats.html

It happens on both sides. What both sides are doing should be what we are looking at.

The bullet he referred to, as if it was directed to him and his office, turned out to be one randomly fired in the air which ricocheted of another building. This was widely reported several days ago. The gas lines cut at was thought to be a Democratic Congressman's house, after a Republican blogger incorrectly posted the address on-line, were confirmed to have been cut deliberately.

But I agree with your last statement both sides need to tone down things before some whack job does something stupid.

Originally Posted by cashman

Donna you are correct. This is pure Liberal hate speech.

Cashman...Please point out the Hate speech I employed in that post.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36084257...-capitol_hill/

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

With all due respect to everyone, we should focus on the issues, holding on to what is left of our US Constitution and restoring this country financially, morally and emotionally. We shouldn't fall into the argument of which side did what or who is worse.

It's easy to resort to name calling and spitting rhetoric. Both sides will use it to their dirty advantage. The Democrats are going to blame the recent "threats of violence" against Congressional Dems on Republicans and use the "threats" as a fundraising tool!!

"A senior adviser to the president said his party was not out of bounds in issuing fundraising appeals linked to recent threats of violence against congressional Democrats," according to CNN Political Ticker.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ed-to-threats/


"Obama senior adviser David Axelrod also suggested congressional Republicans bore some responsibility for the overheated rhetoric and incidents of vandalism directed at Democrats."

I recall the threats against AIG employees and people were asking for names of family members and AIG employees' children were even being threatened. One threat was of strangling AIG employees with piano wire. When AIG CEO Edward Liddy said he was afraid to release the names of employee who had returned all or part of their bonuses, Barney Frank basically said tough, let the police handle it if something happens but release the names or be subpoenaed.

I watched Black Panthers standing at the front door of a polling place holding a black-jack club hitting it into his hand during the last Presidential election!
I remember an Iraqi journalist throwing shoes at our President.
You know what Bush said? Did he say let's use this as a fundraiser? No.

"So what if the guy threw his shoe at me?" Bush told a reporter in response to a question about the incident.

"Let me talk about the guy throwing his shoe. It's one way to gain attention. It's like going to a political rally and having people yell at you. It's like driving down the street and having people not gesturing with all five fingers. ...

"These journalists here were very apologetic. They ... said this doesn't represent the Iraqi people, but that's what happens in free societies where people try to draw attention to themselves."

Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor had a bullet shot through his Richmond, Va., office. A man was just arrested today, who authorities believe was the shooter, for posting a Youtube video threatening Cantor. Cantor's response when the bullet was shot through his campaign office, "Let me be clear -- I do not condone violence," Cantor said at the start of his press event. "There are no leaders in this building, no rank and file members in this building, that condone violence, period."

Then he contrasted his own actions with those of Democrats who have been harassed:

"I've received threats since I assumed elected office, not only because of my position but also because I'm Jewish. I've never blamed anyone in this body for that, period. Any suggestion that a leader in this body would incite threats or acts against other members is akin to saying that I would endanger myself, my wife or my children. Just recently I have been directly threatened. A bullet was shot through the window of my campaign office in Richmond this week, and I've received threatening e-mails. But I will not release them, because I believe such actions will only encourage more to be sent," he said.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...democrats.html

It happens on both sides. What both sides are doing should be what we are looking at.

I agree in general with what you are saying.

There are those who ONLY post on here in a general sense if there is some "dissing" to do on a personal level and you very seldom here from them on issues !

My reason for posting in this thread and still posting is because the campaign last fall made me very sensitive to this race crap...and that is what is ...CRAP !

It just seems that every criticism is met with the race card. I criticized Obama on here before he was President and was deemed a racist although I never mentioned or alluded to race..only his policies. That hurt a lot and if you knew my background you would understand but not going to bore anyone with that.

NOW....all of sudden there is a push to call anyone who is right as a racist.....Where in the world did that come from...and why. We have this guy WAYNET come on here and quote EXACT percentages of how many whites are whatever...who in the world keeps those statistics. I assume some writer made it up and away people like Wayne go.

Nobody disagrees with President Obama more than I do....nobody would love to see this congress out on their ear SOON....nobody could oppose a bill as much as I oppose the stupid, political mess they call the health bill, but NOBODY can ever call me a racist of even someone who even thinks about it.

I truely wonder about folks who continually do that....something wrong !

Bucco, you are acting just like they want you to act, defensively. They are trying to discredit anybody that doesn't follow their mindset. It is the old divide and conquer theme, so to speak. They want to quiet the opposition. When they protested it was patriotic. When the opposition protests we are racists. Oldest trick in the book.

As far as I'm concerned this president is worse for this country then the terrible Jimmy Carter. He does not respect anything about this country. He goes around the world dissing the USA and he won't even salute it's flag. He obviously don't care that the unemployment rate is 20% and he don't care that he and congress just passed the most destructive bill in history. A bill that will bring us to ruin.
At least Jimmy Carter was a veteran and a patriot, he was just a very bad president.

Originally Posted by Donna2

Bucco, you are acting just like they want you to act, defensively. They are trying to discredit anybody that doesn't follow their mindset. It is the old divide and conquer theme, so to speak. They want to quiet the opposition. When they protested it was patriotic. When the opposition protests we are racists. Oldest trick in the book.

As far as I'm concerned this president is worse for this country then the terrible Jimmy Carter. He does not respect anything about this country. He goes around the world dissing the USA and he won't even salute it's flag. He obviously don't care that the unemployment rate is 20% and he don't care that he and congress just passed the most destructive bill in history. A bill that will bring us to ruin.
At least Jimmy Carter was a veteran and a patriot, he was just a very bad president.

This statement is simply untrue.....He goes around the world dissing the USA and he won't even salute it's flag. Where do you get this stuff from?

And the unemployment rate is running nationally at 10% not 20%.