Originally Posted by Donna2

Thanks Richie,

The Tea Party is not going away. We'll be at the polls in November, much to the Lamestream Media's chagrin.

Donna, I don't mean this as an insult. But WHAT can POSSIBLY - and by that I mean *realistically* happen in November?

Either NOTHING happens and "The Socialists" stay in power.

Otherwise, they get voted out and "The Gestapo" goes in. (And an incompetent Gestapo at that - 8 years and they still can't stop terrorists from getting on planes, even when they're warned in advance - this is the "Hogan's Heroes" style Gestapo).

How far are we from "Your papers, please?". And they justify it all with so-called 'Security' that is nothing more than theater. At this rate, in a few years, we'll all have to board planes naked.

Neither one of the parties seem to give a damn about Americans. It's all in what they can pitch to buy votes - either by promising benefits (Democrats) or scaring them (Republicans). The people in power are tribal - they belong to their tribe first ('R' or 'D') and their country comes in somewhere behind that, family and maybe the prostitute-du-jour.

I'm more than a little sympathetic towards the Tea Party's groundswell of anger (though some radicals cross the line, IMO). I just don't see what good it's going to do. At best we'd be jumping out of the fire and back into the frying pan.

I'm convinced that we need a third party rising from the ashes of the existing two. One that can rein in the government growth while protecting the freedoms that were supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitution. Not GIVEN by the Constitution (so that some legislooter could take them away), PROTECTED by it.

been presented as either left or right in preference.
It has consistently been presented as re-elect no one!!!!

So to categorize it as either one or the other (nice reference calling the opposition "gestapo"....doesn't tip your hand too much as to your leaning...eh?).

The objective: SEND A MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON......

I feel very fortunate that my sphere of knowledge/information is not limited ONLY to the Bush years and the last 14 months. Must be a real handicap believing nothing happened prior to that very miniscule period in history.

Vote for no incumbent IS NOT a partisan endeavor! And some will not be able to deal with that....eh?

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

been presented as either left or right in preference.
It has consistently been presented as re-elect no one!!!!

So to categorize it as either one or the other (nice reference calling the opposition "gestapo"....doesn't tip your hand too much as to your leaning...eh?).

The objective: SEND A MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON......

I feel very fortunate that my sphere of knowledge/information is not limited ONLY to the Bush years and the last 14 months. Must be a real handicap believing nothing happened prior to that very miniscule period in history.

Vote for no incumbent IS NOT a partisan endeavor! And some will not be able to deal with that....eh?

btk

I agree. I would much prefer to think back pre-Bush and after Carter period when a conservative was a conservative and RINO's were few and far between.

Originally Posted by djplong

Donna, I don't mean this as an insult. But WHAT can POSSIBLY - and by that I mean *realistically* happen in November?

Either NOTHING happens and "The Socialists" stay in power.

Otherwise, they get voted out and "The Gestapo" goes in. (And an incompetent Gestapo at that - 8 years and they still can't stop terrorists from getting on planes, even when they're warned in advance - this is the "Hogan's Heroes" style Gestapo).

How far are we from "Your papers, please?". And they justify it all with so-called 'Security' that is nothing more than theater. At this rate, in a few years, we'll all have to board planes naked.

Neither one of the parties seem to give a damn about Americans. It's all in what they can pitch to buy votes - either by promising benefits (Democrats) or scaring them (Republicans). The people in power are tribal - they belong to their tribe first ('R' or 'D') and their country comes in somewhere behind that, family and maybe the prostitute-du-jour.

I'm more than a little sympathetic towards the Tea Party's groundswell of anger (though some radicals cross the line, IMO). I just don't see what good it's going to do. At best we'd be jumping out of the fire and back into the frying pan.

I'm convinced that we need a third party rising from the ashes of the existing two. One that can rein in the government growth while protecting the freedoms that were supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitution. Not GIVEN by the Constitution (so that some legislooter could take them away), PROTECTED by it.

This hate speach gets you nowhere.

The unruly hate-filled liberals attack republican building.


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Originally Posted by billethkid

So to categorize it as either one or the other (nice reference calling the opposition "gestapo"....doesn't tip your hand too much as to your leaning...eh?).

When it comes to social issues, I "lean left" according to how people like to pdgeonhole me. I believe in freedoms the way they were outlined in the Constitution.

*Today's* Republican seems to believe in "well, if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't need privacy".

When it comes to fiscal issues, I lean the other way. I had an friend who had an artist over and the artist was griping about how he wished the government would "support the arts" more and that art was very important and should be publicly funded. I said words to the effect of "then get a patron". He was puzzled. I said "Look, what if I decide to sit on my ass and draw stick figures - claim it's 'minimalist art' and demand a government stiped". The look on his face clearly said that he'd never thought of that possibility. He didn't understand that his passion (art) if put into law would bring people in to abuse the system.

And you're right. I shouldn't have used the word "Gestapo". I should have found something a little milder than "KGB".

Cashman: So my bit of frustrated ranting is "hate speech"? Yet Tea Partiers putting a Hitler moustache on an Obama portrait is ok? Can you tell me what your definition of "hate speech" is, then? Or am I *completely* missing the humor in a remark? (Though, in the end, you're right about one thing - it's not going to solve anything other than venting for a brief time)

I'm just glad that people are starting to pay attention to what is going on with this administration. And most only have scraped the surface.

As far as the Tea Party people, God bless them. I have observed many of their gatherings in several States. They are orderly, clean up the mess, and protest peacefully. I have also noticed 'set-ups' by people of another persuasion accusing Tea Parties of bad behavior, physically and verbally. That's a load of crappola (as my grandfather used to say).

We need to take this country back and take it back to the Constitution. The government is responsible for our protection militarily -- NOT from everything we eat to how much water is in the toilet bowl.

If anyone doesn't agree with me, I'm fine with that. But I will exercise my rights and help to get Conservatives to run and get elected, starting with November 2010.

If we don't get this Congress back and rid ourselves of this president in 2012, there is truly no hope. I am glad that I won't live long enough to see all of this play out that Obama has planned, but I am very saddened that my children will not have the country that I grew up in or the freedoms and opportunities I had.

Hey Bucco talk about things that didn't happen and no apology how about James O'Keefe and his edited garbage being reported as factual on his "expose" of ACORN. And climategate...no apologies for that even though it has now been reported that no one lied. Stop the sanctimonious nonsense please.

waynet, please post links to things you say here to prove your point. No offense, but it is silly to argue against hollow echos of left wing rhetoric. Please don't be a mindless parrot. Give us something with substance that we can consider to change our opinions. I have yet to see anything to dispel the charges against ACORN or prove global warming. Just back up your bull....ish remarks. Respectfully, B.K.

Originally Posted by waynet

Hey Bucco talk about things that didn't happen and no apology how about James O'Keefe and his edited garbage being reported as factual on his "expose" of ACORN. And climategate...no apologies for that even though it has now been reported that no one lied. Stop the sanctimonious nonsense please.

What kind of parallel universe to you inhabit? Acorn was guilty and scientists lied. But if you have any credible links. Even the leftists have disputed your allegations.

Originally Posted by waynet

Hey Bucco talk about things that didn't happen and no apology how about James O'Keefe and his edited garbage being reported as factual on his "expose" of ACORN. And climategate...no apologies for that even though it has now been reported that no one lied. Stop the sanctimonious nonsense please.

Why Waynet do you whine when you are wasting time with wobbly weak unsupported willy nilly unwisdoms.

Originally Posted by Donna2

What kind of parallel universe to you inhabit? Acorn was guilty and scientists lied. But if you have any credible links. Even the leftists have disputed your allegations.

What other explanation?

Originally Posted by waynet

Hey Bucco talk about things that didn't happen and no apology how about James O'Keefe and his edited garbage being reported as factual on his "expose" of ACORN. And climategate...no apologies for that even though it has now been reported that no one lied. Stop the sanctimonious nonsense please.

1. Please supply a link to substantiate your comments.

2. Please point out where anything I posted was "nonsense" and not true.


Thank you

http://coloradoindependent.com/48555...l-then-and-now

Originally Posted by waynet

http://coloradoindependent.com/48555...l-then-and-now

I suppose I should say I am sorry that this man edited the film to suit his purposes. Now explain what we did see...edited ? You did say you wanted an apology, right ?

And, please explain what that situation has to do with the original thread subject matter. If you wish to begin a thread on what each party has done over the years, it will be a long one.

You TOTALLY miss the point in your attempt to be PARTY LOYAL !