I don't think any poster on this forum made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family. Nugent made what sure sounded like threats to Obama. I don't think my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, has made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family.

Originally Posted by buggyone

I don't think any poster on this forum made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family. Nugent made what sure sounded like threats to Obama. I don't think my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, has made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family.

When the opportunity presents itself, I will spend the time searching for those comments made about how she deserves this or that because she is such a terrible woman and such a lousy parent.

In the meantime, please keep this in context. I have always abhored you folks and your name calling so I never in anyway defended these quotes....lets keep that clear,

A thread was begun wherein it mentioned that the accusations that are thrown around are bad...I agree...it happens on here a lot...no links, no proof just simple charges of no substance.

A poster said that I excused these remarks, which was a TOTALLY MADE UP STATEMENT....and I want to have that poster stand by their remarks....show me where.

If busness as usual, you guys just make charges and then disappear and never return. I am going to make sure as much as possible that the false accusation stop, at least by trying to embarass those who make them.

I never said anything that you allude to in this post and you KNOW IT.

I said that ".Actually, I could have posted or copied and pasted some of the quotes from you folks to my complaints about some of the remarks made about Palin on here." to defend the outrage and as you know everytime I have criticized you, it is ok to do whatever......you are well aware that I did not ever condone these kind of comments and you know it well...your remarks validate what your stated position is...you can say anything you want about folks in the news and call them anyname you want to....THAT, to you is not inflammatory


PS...in the meantime I am trying to get someone from you side to comment on the healthcare bill with no luck...Hoping to discuss an issue....lets do that and then go on to others

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Well the people in the audience at the NRA convention apparently gave a rat's bunny about what he said. And there just might be one of them that becomes convinced by him that the only way to save this country is to use his gun to eliminate this menace. It only takes one.

That is a very real fear. I'm fairly certain Nugent is just nuts and wouldn't take action, but there are those who are even more nuts and might.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

That is a very real fear. I'm fairly certain Nugent is just nuts and wouldn't take action, but there are those who are even more nuts and might.

I had that fear for a number of years, but in the meantime lets discuss those issues that should decide this election...health care, economy, budget deficits, etc.

Not making light of your fear but is was EXTREMELY DRAMATIC when Bush was in (I assume that was not as important) but would love to see the candidates and this forum address actual issues

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

What do Bill Maher and his ridiculous comments have to do with Ted Nugent. PLENTY of people, including me, have criticized and even quit paying attention to Maher. Maher uses inappropriate and disrespectful language, but as far as I know has never threatened bodily harm, encouraged people to do violence, or stated that if anyone was elected or reelected he would shortly thereafter be dead or in jail. What do you take out of that from the self proclaimed "master of the metaphor"? Why would maher's poor taste be reason to excuse the violent, incendiary language of nugent?

Originally Posted by buggyone

I don't think any poster on this forum made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family. Nugent made what sure sounded like threats to Obama. I don't think my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, has made threats to the life of Sarah Palin or her family.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

That is a very real fear. I'm fairly certain Nugent is just nuts and wouldn't take action, but there are those who are even more nuts and might.

I like to lay a wager on this, but I'll settle for an answer (I'm not holding my breath)

Where did Nugent threaten bodily harm? In fact, where did he threaten anyone?

(imagine the Jeopardy theme song here)

Originally Posted by buggyone

It does not matter who made the statement. A black person can still make a racist statement against blacks and it will still be racist. Sowell did that. Disagree if you wish - but I will accept that drink - if the pour is more generous than the one you got last week.

Of course in matters in the context of the allegation and your response.

You responded to the query of where is the racism from posters to this forum.

You clipped comments from a quote of an author and not a member of this forum, AND you did not credit the original author.

This is blatantly deceitful, Buggy.

C'mon, you know I'm right.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I like to lay a wager on this, but I'll settle for an answer (I'm not holding my breath)

Where did Nugent threaten bodily harm? In fact, where did he threaten anyone?

(imagine the Jeopardy theme song here)

I believe this is what he said...

""If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year."

I recall Cindy Sheehan being bused around the country by the Democratic party callin the President some very crude things.....suppose that was her right,

This link will supply you with pictures of a few signs that were ignored totally by officials in the past...one said..

Media Didn't Care About Protest Signs Threatening Bush | NewsBusters.org

"Kill terroists bomb there house....KILL BUSH...bomb his f@#$%^& house"


Another...

"Bush is the disease...death is the cure"

He then went on to say something about chopping off heads. Rhetoric goes too far on both sides. I would like to see violent phrasing eliminated from political campaigns. Phrases like "targeting, in the cross hairs, if they bring a knife, we bring a gun" are useless for everyone - no matter whose side you are on.

Originally Posted by Bucco

I believe this is what he said...

""If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year."

Not a threat to anyone.

Originally Posted by buggyone

He then went on to say something about chopping off heads. Rhetoric goes too far on both sides. I would like to see violent phrasing eliminated from political campaigns. Phrases like "targeting, in the cross hairs, if they bring a knife, we bring a gun" are useless for everyone - no matter whose side you are on.

Nobody was the least bit concerned a number of years ago. It was fine..nobody cared but now we should get all up in our shorts.

And that is certainly not an endorsement of it...but just stating a simple, indisputable fact !!!!!!!

By the way, he said something bout Republicans should chop off Democrats heads...and he did not mean it literally and everyone knows that. I have to begin to compile all this stuff, but, and not sure...seems that Pelosi herself has says similiar things...could be wrong and certainly will check....but none of that kind of language seems to bother anyone

Originally Posted by buggyone

He then went on to say something about chopping off heads. Rhetoric goes too far on both sides. I would like to see violent phrasing eliminated from political campaigns. Phrases like "targeting, in the cross hairs, if they bring a knife, we bring a gun" are useless for everyone - no matter whose side you are on.

OK, you're a bit closer here on this one. Even though he names no names, he insists he's speaking metaphorically, as in our current leaders must be defeated.

Still no worse than I've heard from lefties for the past 10 years or so.

Not sure where to post this information but I think it is somewhat pertinent to the opinion that I foster very strongly.

That is that this President will do anything for votes and be totally shameless about his constant pandering.

On Politico today is a report that the Obama campaign has put a rush out for black workers......a move that is even found skeptical by black groups...

"The race to stock up on black talent is a welcome development among Washington’s African-American power elite — and one that critics say is three years late in coming. The cynical take, offered up by black Democratic sources outside Obama’s camp: The president and his aides have focused their attention on hiring more African-Americans because they are worried about black turnout on Election Day"

Obama camp tries to diversify - Jonathan Allen and Joseph Williams - POLITICO.com

I totally think that is the case....it is not that he is afraid that black voters will all run to Romney....his fear his that will not vote.

An interesting stat from 2008...."Exit polls show that roughly 1 million African Americans voted in the presidential election in North Carolina in 2008. Obama’s margin of victory: 14,000 votes."

Originally Posted by Bucco

An interesting stat from 2008...."Exit polls show that roughly 1 million African Americans voted in the presidential election in North Carolina in 2008. Obama’s margin of victory: 14,000 votes."

So what is your point with this post.
a. Too many African Americans voted
b. African Americans should not vote
c. African American votes should not be counted
d. More white North Carolinians should have voted
e. The victory was bogus because too many African Americans voted
d. Other - please explain

What an absurd posting. What's your point? That Obama overwhelmingly won the black vote? He was the first black in the history of this nation to win a major Party's Presidential nomination. Duuuhhhhh ........

Let's see if you find this interesting ...... from 2008 ...

Obama won men (by 1 point)
Obama won women
Obama LOST among whites (gee, what a surprise, hu?)
Obama won asians
Obama won among 18-29 year olds
Obama won HS grads.
Obama won among those with some college
Obama won among college grads.
Obama won among 1st time voters
Obama won Protestants
Obama won Catholics
Obama won the Jews
Obama LOST among those who say they go to church once a week
Obama won in big cities
Obama won small cities
Obama won the suburbs
Obama LOST in small towns
Obama lost rural areas.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

So what is your point with this post.
a. Too many African Americans voted
b. African Americans should not vote
c. African American votes should not be counted
d. More white North Carolinians should have voted
e. The victory was bogus because too many African Americans voted
d. Other - please explain

You really spend your time looking for trouble...in the post I typed this in which I thought to any reasonable person would show the intent of the post...

"That is that this President will do anything for votes and be totally shameless about his constant pandering."

I will try to be clearer for you because it sure seems like you are trying hard to begin a war of some kind.