Originally Posted by Guest

Well Chi, at least I give you a substantive debate, and you yet you liberals have only attacks on the poster, nothing to convince. I guess that means that once again, you lose. Remember, Google is your friend.....try using it to discover some convincing facts. There is still some "hope and change" out there for ya.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and you are correct. You definitely give a substantive debate in your posts. Maybe a little snarky but still appreciated.

Here is a civil and informative debate. Two and one half hours but zippy.

https://youtu.be/wvO3zJaNBjs

Originally Posted by Guest

Thanks for the words of encouragement, and you are correct. You definitely give a substantive debate in your posts. Maybe a little snarky but still appreciated.

Here is a civil and informative debate. Two and one half hours but zippy.

https://youtu.be/wvO3zJaNBjs

I'm not going to debate religion on a thread with the subject of Ben Carson. However, since there is a question as to his qualifications to be president, based on his belief in God and creation, I will say that 75-80% of America believes in God. If you believe in God, then you believe in creation. Even though I have no intention of voting for Carson in the primary, if he does get the nomination, he will get my vote in the general. I think that I would rather put my faith in a leader that believes in God, than one that does not. If one does not believe in God, then can I really feel confident that he believes in America, democracy, and the constitution?

And I have yet to see any evidence of evolution. But, keep researching and studying because eventually you will come to the conclusion that creation is the only viable answer. They all do.

Originally Posted by Guest

Go back to high school and do some science reading. You say the Earth is 6,000 years old as dated in thr Bible! Poppycock!! Do some research on the age of rocks in the Grand Canyon and your stupid statement about the Bible being scientifically and mathemathical correct is pure nonsense.

Most intelligent people know that the creationist theory is pure nonsense. And its a waste of time to try to talk logically to these nitwits who believe it, they seem unwilling or unable to understand logic of any kind. The way Carson is dropping in the polls, however, its probably a foregone conclusion that Trump will be the nominee. I certainly hope so. That will certainly guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

Originally Posted by Guest

Most intelligent people know that the creationist theory is pure nonsense. And its a waste of time to try to talk logically to these nitwits who believe it, they seem unwilling or unable to understand logic of any kind. The way Carson is dropping in the polls, however, its probably a foregone conclusion that Trump will be the nominee. I certainly hope so. That will certainly guarantee a Democrat in the white house.

Who the hell are you to come on here, or anywhere and call anyone who believes in the bible a "nitwit" ?

Man that takes big ones. Who do you think you are ? You would object strongly if anyone said that about a muslim and their beliefs, and I picked Muslim simply because it seems to be timely.

How can anyone speak of another's religion in that manner ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Who the hell are you to come on here, or anywhere and call anyone who believes in the bible a "nitwit" ?

Man that takes big ones. Who do you think you are ? You would object strongly if anyone said that about a muslim and their beliefs, and I picked Muslim simply because it seems to be timely.

How can anyone speak of another's religion in that manner ?

It does take a nitwit to believe that the Bible is "scientifically and mathematical correct" as was stated a few posts ago. You can see clear evidence in rocks and fossils that the Earth is many millions of years older than the 6,000 years if dated from the Bible.

I believe in the New Testament and all things in it.

Originally Posted by Guest

It does take a nitwit to believe that the Bible is "scientifically and mathematical correct" as was stated a few posts ago. You can see clear evidence in rocks and fossils that the Earth is many millions of years older than the 6,000 years if dated from the Bible.

I believe in the New Testament and all things in it.

That certainly qualifies you to mock others beliefs !

So, in your world, if they don't believe as you, they are nitwits.

Originally Posted by Guest

Who the hell are you to come on here, or anywhere and call anyone who believes in the bible a "nitwit" ?

Man that takes big ones. Who do you think you are ? You would object strongly if anyone said that about a muslim and their beliefs, and I picked Muslim simply because it seems to be timely.

How can anyone speak of another's religion in that manner ?

You can believe the theory of evolution and still read the Bible if you understand that many of the stories had divine inspiration.

Originally Posted by Guest

You can believe the theory of evolution and still read the Bible if you understand that many of the stories had divine inspiration.

I was referring to calling someone a nitwit.

How does mocking and calling people names who have beliefs different than yours fit into your personal beliefs ?

To me, if you mock someone's religious beliefs, whatever they are, you have not read much with "divine inspiration" nor practice anything close.

Sorry, but I just don't agree with Christian fundamentalists who try to pretend that scientific evidence regarding evolution does not exist. It does not jive with the beliefs of most of the scientific community and academia. I also believe Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11, Elvis is dead, Obama is not a Muslim, climate change is real, and the earth is round.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry, but I just don't agree with Christian fundamentalists who try to pretend that scientific evidence regarding evolution does not exist. It does not jive with the beliefs of most of the scientific community and academia. I also believe Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11, Elvis is dead, Obama is not a Muslim, climate change is real, and the earth is round.

Be careful of what you mock. Elvis lives!

Originally Posted by Guest

That certainly qualifies you to mock others beliefs !

So, if they don't believe as you, they are nitwits.

Absolutely correct. Anyone who believes that the accounts in the Old Testament are "scientifically and mathematical correct" is a nitwit. The Earth is many millions of years older than the approximately 6,000 years measured in the timeline of the Old Testament. Look at the scientific proof of the age of the Earth!

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry, but I just don't agree with Christian fundamentalists who try to pretend that scientific evidence regarding evolution does not exist. It does not jive with the beliefs of most of the scientific community and academia. I also believe Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11, Elvis is dead, Obama is not a Muslim, climate change is real, and the earth is round.

.......and red lines mean something, you can keep your doctor if you want to, ACA will reduce health costs, Yemen is a great success story., ISIL is not a threat but contained, etc., etc

And most importantly, anyone who disagrees with you, your beliefs, your politics is at best a nitwit.

How are you to be addressed as you are a judge of anything and everything ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry, but I just don't agree with Christian fundamentalists who try to pretend that scientific evidence regarding evolution does not exist. It does not jive with the beliefs of most of the scientific community and academia. I also believe Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11, Elvis is dead, Obama is not a Muslim, climate change is real, and the earth is round.

Of course climate change is real. The climate has been in constant change since the earth was formed. One can well imagine Al Gore living during the last ice age. One day he would pop his head up from his ice cave, notice the North American Ice sheets are receding, and say "This is a real problem, we must do something to stop it."

Originally Posted by Guest

.......and red lines mean something, you can keep your doctor if you want to, ACA will reduce health costs, Yemen is a great success story., ISIL is not a threat but contained, etc., etc

And most importantly, anyone who disagrees with you, your beliefs, your politics is at best a nitwit.

How are you to be addressed as you are a judge of anything and everything ?

Being a Christian is okay. Being homophobic, racist, or otherwise in the name of christianity or your religion is not okay.

Originally Posted by Guest

Being a Christian is okay. Being homophobic, racist, or otherwise in the name of christianity or your religion is not okay.

All of what you are saying makes someone who believes in the Old Testament and creativity a "nit wit" HOW ?

And define exactly what is meant by "or otherwise" ??

Is not racist a very relative term...how do you define that, OR do we rely directly on you ?

and on and on.