So Vets get the short end of the VA's budget.

Instead of health care they get art.

Should our vets wait 4 more years for help?

ABC Spotlights Veterans Admin. Wasting Millions On Art During Scandal | MRCTV

The addition of art work to the medical center grounds has absolutely nothing to do with veterans waiting long periods of time for appointments.

The appointment scandal was caused by a very poor type of performances standards. The performance standards would say that x number of appointments would be made for veterans within a 3 month period for an outstanding performance rating for the Service Director. Actually, there were 2 sets of appointment books - the real one and the one for performance standards.

It has been ongoing for many years and it finally got exposed. It started with the Medical Center Director and stuff runs downhill - so many were implicated.

Not a fault of any President but just an internal VA Human Resources practice that failed miserably.

Originally Posted by Guest

The addition of art work to the medical center grounds has absolutely nothing to do with veterans waiting long periods of time for appointments.

The appointment scandal was caused by a very poor type of performances standards. The performance standards would say that x number of appointments would be made for veterans within a 3 month period for an outstanding performance rating for the Service Director. Actually, there were 2 sets of appointment books - the real one and the one for performance standards.

It has been ongoing for many years and it finally got exposed. It started with the Medical Center Director and stuff runs downhill - so many were implicated.

Not a fault of any President but just an internal VA Human Resources practice that failed miserably.

BS!

Originally Posted by Guest

Not a fault of any President but just an internal VA Human Resources practice that failed miserably.

WHAT?

who appointed the head of the VA

Originally Posted by Guest

WHAT?

who appointed the head of the VA

On December 8, 2008, U.S. President Barack Obama announced he would nominate retired U.S. Army general Eric Shinseki to be the seventh Secretary of Veterans Affairs. He was unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate on January 20, 2009.[3] General Shinseki resigned as Secretary of Veterans Affairs on May 30, 2014, making deputy secretary Sloan Gibson the acting secretary. On June 29, 2014, President Obama nominated former Procter & Gamble CEO Robert A. McDonald to serve as VA secretary. The United States Senate confirmed McDonald on July 29, 2014.[4]

Originally Posted by Guest

WHAT?

who appointed the head of the VA

I personally know this very poor performance standard for the Medical Administration Service of the VA has been going on since the early years of the Bush43 Administration.

It is not the fault of any President but just very poor HR practices emanating from the Chief of Staffs to the Secretary of VA - who knew squat about best HR practices.

Originally Posted by Guest

I personally know this very poor performance standard for the Medical Administration Service of the VA has been going on since the early years of the Bush43 Administration.

It is not the fault of any President but just very poor HR practices emanating from the Chief of Staffs to the Secretary of VA - who knew squat about best HR practices.

You're kidding right!

How can it not be his fault?

Originally Posted by Guest

I personally know this very poor performance standard for the Medical Administration Service of the VA has been going on since the early years of the Bush43 Administration.

It is not the fault of any President but just very poor HR practices emanating from the Chief of Staffs to the Secretary of VA - who knew squat about best HR practices.

RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!

These people work for the president of the USA. Approved/appointed/annointed by the president of the USA.

The buck stops at the highest ranking person in the organization in which the wrong doing is being done/continued/accepted.

It is the responsibility of the president.

Originally Posted by Guest

The addition of art work to the medical center grounds has absolutely nothing to do with veterans waiting long periods of time for appointments.

The appointment scandal was caused by a very poor type of performances standards. The performance standards would say that x number of appointments would be made for veterans within a 3 month period for an outstanding performance rating for the Service Director. Actually, there were 2 sets of appointment books - the real one and the one for performance standards.

It has been ongoing for many years and it finally got exposed. It started with the Medical Center Director and stuff runs downhill - so many were implicated.

Not a fault of any President but just an internal VA Human Resources practice that failed miserably.

Your final line is just so laughable .

Originally Posted by Guest

I personally know this very poor performance standard for the Medical Administration Service of the VA has been going on since the early years of the Bush43 Administration.

It is not the fault of any President but just very poor HR practices emanating from the Chief of Staffs to the Secretary of VA - who knew squat about best HR practices.

In 1972 I was at the VA hospital (after Vietnam). It was the worst run business I have ever witnesses. I observed many, many Vets in wheelchairs waiting in the lobby area, waiting to be called to be seen. I also watched as government employees chatted and drank coffee in front of these poor guys. As I walked through the halls I heard patients shouting for someone's attention, as nurses congregated around the nurses station, totally oblivious to it all. This was the VA hospital on North Capitol St, in Wash, D.C. the closest one to the White House. I was disgusted and once I was checked out of the hospital, I NEVER returned.
I do not know how much the VA hospitals have improved since then, because I have only been to two of them, one in NC and the one in Gainsville. However, the outpatient clinics, such as the one in The Villages have treated me very courteously and professionally. I attribute much of this to the greatest volunteers I have ever met. Granted, I have had trouble getting an appointment, but that may have been me being impatient on the phone and not actually going up there to see someone in person to get my appointment.
I have yet to see anything run by the government to be efficient. Once a government employee, you are secure for life in your position. No one gets fired in the government, UNLESS someone up top has a dire need to pass the buck to cover their own behind. And then, even then, the person targeted is usually just transferred or promoted out of sight.
I can't attest to how the VA hospitals are today, but in the 70's they were nightmares that probably contributed to many of the 50,000 post Vietnam suicides.

One reason for not trusting Hillary with the Military is because she does not like the military and said some nasty things about them when she resided in the White House. Am I supposed to think that she has had a change of heart? Trump has consistently said he supports our Vets, our military and our law enforcement. He hasn't yet shown otherwise. Trump will likely get my vote. Unless the Democrat party replaces Hillary with someone else, they will not get my support.

Here are five things Hillary’s plan will do:

1. Give military families more flexibility. Hillary would expand family leave and access to child care to help families juggle the demands of military service and parenthood. She would also make military career intermission programs permanent so that servicemembers and their families can take time off to raise children, care for an ill family member, or explore educational opportunities.

2. Support military spouses pursuing jobs and education. Too many military spouses are unemployed or underemployed—and a recent study shows that it costs our economy $1 billion per year. As president, Hillary will expand state and federal resources and engage the private sector to boost training and job opportunities for the husbands and wives of members of the military.

3. Help families who are changing locations or transitioning out of the military. Hillary’s plan will create more flexibility around military moves by taking family circumstances into account in assignments and letting families continue receiving their housing allowance for up to six months after a military member’s Permanent Change of Station (PCS). It will also expand job services and transition programs for families of servicemembers who are leaving the military.

4. Ensure children in military families receive a high-quality education. Hillary’s plan will boost support for Defense Department schools and public schools with a large number of military children. And it will preserve and protect the Post-9/11 G.I. Bill, including educational benefits for spouses and children of military personnel.

5. Champion the care and needs of service members. As president, Hillary will establish a standing council on servicemembers, veterans, and military families to ensure government agencies are meeting their needs. She will also establish a series of town halls on military bases between White House and Department of Defense officials and military families.

Show me Trumps plan.

First of all Sir-- thank you for your service . Second there is just no excuse for the experience you had with the VA long ago and apparently many Vets are dealing with today .
Sadly you are 100% correct the Gvt can not run anything effiecienty or effectively perhaps the exception is our MIlitary and again perhaps not . Somehow the VA should be privatized or our Vets should get a medical plan that allows them to be treated by any Dr. anywhere of their choosing .

She also said the deleted emails had no classified info.

She lied then, FBI said it wasn't true.

how can anyone believe anything she says.

How did she rigged the DNC against Bernie?


Don't worry Wikileaks said today more emails will be released soon.

needs trumps plan

right here, guess you not use to using Google.

please read


Veterans Administration Reforms That Will Make America Great Again

The Goals Of Donald J. Trump’s Veterans Plan

The current state of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is absolutely unacceptable. Over 300,000 veterans died waiting for care. Corruption and incompetence were excused. Politicians in Washington have done too little too slowly to fix it. This situation can never happen again, and when Donald J. Trump is president, it will be fixed – fast.

The guiding principle of the Trump plan is ensuring veterans have convenient access to the best quality care. To further this principle, the Trump plan will decrease wait times, improve healthcare outcomes, and facilitate a seamless transition from service into civilian life.

The Trump Plan Will:

Ensure our veterans get the care they need wherever and whenever they need it. No more long drives. No more waiting for backlogs. No more excessive red tape. Just the care and support they earned with their service to our country.
Support the whole veteran, not just their physical health care, but also by addressing their invisible wounds, investing in our service members’ post-active duty success, transforming the VA to meet the needs of 21st century service members, and better meeting the needs of our female veterans.
Make the VA great again by firing the corrupt and incompetent VA executives who let our veterans down, by modernizing the VA, and by empowering the doctors and nurses to ensure our veterans receive the best care available in a timely manner.

The Trump Plan Gives Veterans The Freedom To Choose And Forces The VA To Compete For Their Dollars

Politicians in Washington have tried to fix the VA by holding hearings and blindly throwing money at the problem. None of it has worked. In fact, wait times were 50% higher this summer than they were a year ago. That’s because the VA lacks the right leadership and management. It’s time we stop trusting Washington politicians to fix the problems and empower our veterans to vote with their feet.

Under a Trump Administration, all veterans eligible for VA health care can bring their veteran’s ID card to any doctor or care facility that accepts Medicare to get the care they need immediately. Our veterans have earned the freedom to choose better or more convenient care from the doctor and facility of their choice. The power to choose will stop the wait time backlogs and force the VA to improve and compete if the department wants to keep receiving veterans’ healthcare dollars. The VA will become more responsive to veterans, develop more efficient systems, and improve the quality of care because it will have no other choice.

The Trump Plan Treats The Whole Veteran

We must care for the whole veteran, not just their physical health. We must recognize that today’s veterans have very different needs than those of the Greatest Generation.

The Trump Plan Will:

Increase funding for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), traumatic brain injury and suicide prevention services to address our veterans’ invisible wounds. Service members are five times more likely to develop depression than civilians. They are almost fifteen times more likely to develop PTSD than civilians. This funding will help provide more and better counseling and care. More funding will also support research on best practices and state of the art treatments to keep our veterans alive, healthy and whole. With these steps, the Trump plan will help the veteran community put the unnecessary stigma surrounding mental health behind them and instead encourage acceptance and treatment in our greater society.
Increase funding for job training and placement services (including incentives for companies hiring veterans), educational support and business loans. All Americans agree that we must do everything we can to help put our service men and women on a path to success as they leave active duty by collaborating with the many successful non-profit organizations that are already helping. Service members have learned valuable skills in the military but many need help understanding how to apply those skills in civilian life. Others know how to apply those skills but need help connecting with good jobs to support their families. Still others have an entrepreneurial spirit and are ready to start creating jobs and growing the economy. The Trump plan will strengthen existing programs or replace them with more effective ones to address these needs and to get our veterans working.
Transform the VA to meet the needs of 21st century service members. Today’s veterans have very different needs than those of the generations that came before them. The VA must adapt to meet the needs of this generation of younger, more diverse veterans. The Trump plan will expand VA services for female veterans and ensure the VA is providing the right support for this new generation of veterans.
Better support our women veterans. The fact that many VA hospitals don’t permanently staff OBGYN doctors shows an utter lack of respect for the growing number female veterans. Under the Trump plan, every VA hospital in the country will be fully equipped with OBGYN and other women’s health services. In addition, women veterans can always choose a different OBGYN in their community using their veteran’s ID card.


The Trump Plan Will Make The VA Great Again

The VA health care program is a disaster. Some candidates want to get rid of it, but our veterans need the VA to be there for them and their families. That’s why the Trump plan will:

Fire the corrupt and incompetent VA executives that let our veterans down. Under a Trump Administration, there will be no job security for VA executives that enabled or overlooked corruption and incompetence. They’re fired. New leadership will focus the VA staff on delivering timely, top quality care and other services to our nation’s veterans. Under a Trump Administration, exposing and addressing the VA’s inefficiencies and shortcomings will be rewarded, not punished.
End waste, fraud and abuse at the VA. The Trump plan will ensure the VA is spending its dollars wisely to provide the greatest impact for veterans and hold administrators accountable for irresponsible spending and abuse. The days of $6.3 million for statues and fountains at VA facilities and $300,000 for a manager to move 140 miles are over. The Trump plan will clean up the VA’s finances so the current VA budget provides more and better care than it does now.
Modernize the VA. A VA with 20th century technology cannot serve 21st century service members and their needs. The VA has been promising to modernize for years without real results. The Trump plan will make it happen by accelerating and expanding investments in state of the art technology to deliver best-in-class care quickly and effectively. All veterans should be able to conveniently schedule appointments, communicate with their doctors, and view accurate wait times with the push of a button.
Empower the caregivers to ensure our veterans receive quality care quickly. Caregivers should be able to easily streamline treatment plans across departments and utilize telehealth tools to better serve their patients. As we have seen from the private sector, the potential for new, innovative technology is endless. Abandoning the wasteful and archaic mindset of the public sector will give way to tremendously effective veteran healthcare.
Hire more veterans to care for veterans. The more veterans we have working at the VA, the better the VA will be. They understand the unique challenges facing their community. To increase the number of veterans hired by the VA, this plan will add an additional 5 points to the qualifying scores of veterans applying for VA jobs.
Embed satellite VA clinics in rural and other underserved areas. The Trump Administration will embed satellite VA clinics within hospitals and other care facilities in rural and other underserved areas. This step will ensure veterans have easy access to care and local hospitals and care facilities can handle the influx of patients without backlogs while tapping the specialized knowledge of VA health specialists.

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Originally Posted by Guest

The addition of art work to the medical center grounds has absolutely nothing to do with veterans waiting long periods of time for appointments.

The appointment scandal was caused by a very poor type of performances standards. The performance standards would say that x number of appointments would be made for veterans within a 3 month period for an outstanding performance rating for the Service Director. Actually, there were 2 sets of appointment books - the real one and the one for performance standards.

It has been ongoing for many years and it finally got exposed. It started with the Medical Center Director and stuff runs downhill - so many were implicated.

Not a fault of any President but just an internal VA Human Resources practice that failed miserably.

Well, just when will anybody in the current Obama
administration be responsible for anything?
Many were implicated and none held responsible.