Katz: I've seen these same 'new' reasons coming out time and time again - and getting debunked over and over again. They're the same tired birther arguments. Again, nobody has called Trump to task on what he said about the "amazing" things his "crack team" was finding out in Hawaii.

KatzPajamas,
This is what I meant in my post about the media in Obamas pocket.

In this case it is the throngs of Obama worshippers come out of the woodwork to defend him and to name call and put down anybody that would attack their king.

"The King has has no clothes"

Originally Posted by notlongnow

KatzPajamas,
This is what I meant in my post about the media in Obamas pocket.

In this case it is the throngs of Obama worshippers come out of the woodwork to defend him and to name call and put down anybody that would attack their king.

"The King has has no clothes"

Keep hanging your hat on the birther issue and you will assure a second term for Obama. I am not a committed Obama supporter, but I am a supporter of truth. The birther issue is a non-starter and a distraction, which makes it's proponents appear to be nitwits, and causes most people to react in the opposite way the birther proponents would hope.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

What does that even mean?

It is abundantly clear and unambiguous.

Keep hanging your hat on the birther issue and you will assure a second term for Obama. I am not a committed Obama supporter, but I am a supporter of truth. The birther issue is a non-starter and a distraction, which makes it's proponents appear to be nitwits, and causes most people to react in the opposite way the birther proponents would hope.

I don't know if you read my 1st post but I said I was NOT a birther.

So

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, no one is entitled to their own facts.

What I said was it was not a good way to get him out of office, but then I guess that fact did not fit your put down.

I am not a nitwit and would not call you one. It is a shame that you have to go personal.

Originally Posted by notlongnow

KatzPajamas,
This is what I meant in my post about the media in Obamas pocket.

In this case it is the throngs of Obama worshippers come out of the woodwork to defend him and to name call and put down anybody that would attack their king.

"The King has no clothes"

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Good Detective Work On Obama. Those of you that think the "birthers" are stupid and irrelevant, explain this one away.

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?Where did the term African-American originate

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, EastAfrica ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospital(S) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...org/wiki/Kenya(from Wikipedia)

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

"IN GOD WE TRUST"

I can't believe that anyone continues to waste their time discussing this.

But as long as there seems to be a "need" to continue to try to figure out some way to get rid of Obama instead of actually winning an election--something that is beginning to appear very unlikely--maybe we should discuss what might happen if he actually was removed from office for not satisfying the legal requirement for holding office. Vice President Biden would be elevated to POTUS. I suppose John Boehner would become Vice President.

Y'know that might not be too bad. Biden is probably more stable and experienced than any of the candidates beating one another up trying to get the GOP nomination to run against Obama in the fall. And if we got Boehner out of the leadership of the House, where he's done a simply awful job, that's not all bad either.

As usual, VK, a logical observation.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Katz, you have lost all - and I mean all - credibility on this forum with your ridiculous posting of Obama's birth certificate being false.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being gullible enough to believe any of the bunk that you posted.

No credibility whatsover!

So I guess I'm right up there with you now, eh?!

Forget about his birth certificate. What about the requirement in the United States Constitution that requires our President to be a "natural born citizen" not a "native born citizen." President Obama, in his own book, states that his father was NOT an US citizen. But then again why would that matter, seems that we don't follow or obey the US Constitution in any thing that the Federal Government does anymore.

Thank you Figmo Bohica. You have pretty much made my point! Some of these points are so blatantly ridiculous, and yet the Emperor is still praised for the magnificent attire that he really isn't wearing.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

You diminish your ability to coherently argue against Obama's reelection by trying to convince people of this ridiculous "birther" nonsense. There are legitimate reasons to oppose his reelection and support opposition candidates, but this kind of silliness makes you look out of touch with reality and desperate. snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

I doubt that anything will ever be done about whatever the truth might be. I just thought that these points were very interesting!
I don't appreciate your personal unsolicited judgment of my grasp of reality. I guess I could say the same about alot of folks on this forum, but I am not that condescending and rude. Anyway, we are both fortunate to be living in a land that still sanctions our freedom to voice our opinions!

Katz - I didn't mean it to be a personal attack at you. I said "it makes you LOOK out of touch " It was intended to be a generic reference to anyone that uses the birther argument. You are a passionate and thoughful poster, but the birther argument is beneath you in my opinion.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Keep hanging your hat on the birther issue and you will assure a second term for Obama. I am not a committed Obama supporter, but I am a supporter of truth. The birther issue is a non-starter and a distraction, which makes it's proponents appear to be nitwits, and causes most people to react in the opposite way the birther proponents would hope.

Originally Posted by notlongnow

I don't know if you read my 1st post but I said I was NOT a birther.

So

What I said was it was not a good way to get him out of office, but then I guess that fact did not fit your put down.

I am not a nitwit and would not call you one. It is a shame that you have to go personal.

Again, a generic reference to birthers as APPEARING to be nitwits. I did not specifically mean to refer to you as a birther, nor as a nitwit. Sorry you took it that way, as I respect you as a poster.

Again, a generic reference to birthers as APPEARING to be nitwits. I did not specifically mean to refer to you as a birther, nor as a nitwit. Sorry you took it that way, as I respect you as a poster.

Thank you.

I consider this a "Who shot Kennedy" type thing. It only takes everyone off the real problem, that is if you have a problem with this president.

It is actually what made me cross The Donald off my hopeful list.

Originally Posted by coralway

Check with Donald Trump on that - he has all the answers. He sent his cracker-jack team of "special investigators" out to Hawaii last May and they supposedly collected all the facts. Although, I must admit, it is sort of strange that nobdy ever heard from those "special investigators".

Surely, you recall. It was on - or about - May 1. While Donny and his "investigators" were tracking down the birther issues - and all the cons were holding their collective breath in anticipation, The President was taking out the worlds number 1 terrorist.

Google it - maybe it'll shake your memory.

Thanks. I took your advice and since I don't rely on much of what Donald Trump says.
Here's one of several found

Cover Story: Barack Obama's Christian Journey - The Daily Beast

Then I also found this................

Muslim, Christian, or Marxist?

Obama's Baptism it reports was unlike Baptism for the majority of Christians. No Ceremony/Sacrament/Water or Certificate.

What did you find when you googled Obama's Baptism?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I can't believe that anyone continues to waste their time discussing this.

But as long as there seems to be a "need" to continue to try to figure out some way to get rid of Obama instead of actually winning an election--something that is beginning to appear very unlikely--maybe we should discuss what might happen if he actually was removed from office for not satisfying the legal requirement for holding office. Vice President Biden would be elevated to POTUS. I suppose John Boehner would become Vice President.

Y'know that might not be too bad. Biden is probably more stable and experienced than any of the candidates beating one another up trying to get the GOP nomination to run against Obama in the fall. And if we got Boehner out of the leadership of the House, where he's done a simply awful job, that's not all bad either.

So if President Obama were removed from office would that mean that -

100,000 troop would return to Iraq?

Bin Laden would be resurrected from the dead?

Seniors would be paying $600 more per year for their meds?

Insurance companies would be able to deny you coverage for a pre-existing condition?

Insurance companies could drop you when you got sick?

Young people under age 26 could not stay on their parents insurance policies?

General Motors and Chrysler would be out of business and one million people would be out of work in the midwest?

Everyone's taxes would go up?

To be continued