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Old 10-24-2011, 02:43 PM
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Figmo, The US Supreme Court is there to decide if laws are constitutional or not. That is the purpose of the Court.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:32 PM
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I am certainly not an expert in Constitutional law but believe Buggy is right on this one. Article One of the Fourteenth Amendment states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

This identifies two and only two classes of citizens - those born in the United States and naturalized citizens. Article 1 of the Constitution requires that Representatives be a citizen of the United states for not less than seven years. For Senators, the time is nine years. By implication this states that you become a citizen in one of two ways - being born here and being naturalized.

Article 2 states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Again this appears to define only two classes of citizens - those born here and those naturalized.

It would take a significant amount of evidence to show that there exists a third class of citizen that existed, but was not identified, under the 14th Amendment; especially since Articles One and Two clearly identify two classes of citizens.

Drawing a distinction between 'natural born citizen' and born citizen appears to be one heck of a stretch. However, that is what lawyers do - contort words to have them mean something else. Remember, it took a lawyer to say, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word is is" with a straight face.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:30 PM
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Everyone needs to learn the difference between "native born" and "natural born" citizen. Check with constitutional scholars and see what they have to say. There is a big difference.
Don't know if you're technically right or wrong, but what might be called "The Obama Decision" has made your theory irrelevant. If Obama can be President, Rubio and Jindal have better birth credentials than he does. I think it's "case closed".
 


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