Originally Posted by Guest

No one takes President Obama seriously. Then, what is the big deal about the Iran agreement. He isn't serious about vetoing Republican's opposition to the agreement. Just vote no on the agreement, why pretend that you are looking at all the options? As soon as he put it forward, the Republicans were against it. Why wait? No one is going to believe the illusion the Republicans are trying to put forward. That they actually care about anything, but themselves.

Well, I guess we know where you stand.

When did Donald's mother become a citizen?

Originally Posted by Guest

No one takes President Obama seriously. Then, what is the big deal about the Iran agreement. He isn't serious about vetoing Republican's opposition to the agreement. Just vote no on the agreement, why pretend that you are looking at all the options? As soon as he put it forward, the Republicans were against it. Why wait? No one is going to believe the illusion the Republicans are trying to put forward. That they actually care about anything, but themselves.

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act.

No matter what happens, President Obama has only one person to blame for both the continuing distrust on the Affordable Care Act and the Iran deal.

Back in 2014, there was an opinion piece that I read and concur with. I looked and finally was able to pin it down.

It speaks to our President never asking for advice and feeling that his opinion is the only opinion and is always correct.

A few "outages" from that piece, which is on the Iran deal, but you can substitute the Affordable Care act as well...

"President Obama’s insistence on consulting largely with himself on the world’s most complex issues is well known. Most troublesome for the outcome with Iran is his rejection of needed support from Congress."

This insistence was apparent in the Affordable Care ramp up. He did not want any input at all and was forced to have a dog and pony show on CSPAN, in which he mocked Republicans PUBLICLY. I designated that day that the was the end of any cooperation between the parties, as he manifested that it was "his way or the highway"

While negotiations were on going in 2014 and concessions were being made...

"Throughout the negotiations, however, the Obama Administration has gone out of its way to weaken the U.S. negotiating hand. Earlier this year, the White House twisted arms in the Senate to abandon a bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by 60 of the chamber’s 100 legislators, that put in place stronger sanctions against Iran in case those talks failed.

Despite Mr. Obama’s opposition, the Senate had led the push to hit Iran’s economy harder, forcing the regime to the table. Noting Iran’s opposition to this year’s sanctions bill, Administration officials said they wanted to send a goodwill gesture to Tehran. As the summer deadline extension showed, the Iranians offered nothing in return."


Those who look at our world and think that NOBODY but the President can be correct, are doing a real disservice to themselves, because not only are they totally and freely ignoring what has happened in this country for six years but making the situation much more diverse than it need be,

Obama, Congress and Iran - WSJ

When John Kerry appeared before Congress, he was asked by a democrat, Representative Brad Sherman (D., Calif.) if the LAW will be followed by the administration if the veto is overridden, which is probably not going to happen.

But his response was telling in that he would not commit without consulting with the President. Sherman pressed in shock and asked him if he were implying that the LAW would not be followed by the President. Kerry would not commit.

If you need a link to that, either google or ask. I is a video on several sites.

The key is this President has made this mess with Democrats and Republicans and has even offended many....well, lets say LOTS within his party with his idea that HE and only HE....not the law...he should have the final say on everything.

We need in the next election and this will be my guide, a statesman and someone who understands the meaning of compromise and hearing others ideas and also understanding this is not someone's kingdom

Republicans will criticize Democrats...Democrats will criticize Republicans, but the last 6 years the cadence has picked up. I just suggest you consider what I am saying. There is a lot of information to bolster this and when this administration is done, there will be many many books written about how this President, single handily has widened the crevice of understanding, not only in politics but in race and other areas. And he has only himself to blame

Originally Posted by Guest

How does Trump's plan help with the Hispanic vote? Most experts say in order for the GOP to win in 2016, they must get 40% of that vote. George Bush got 40%, McCain got 30% and Romney got 25%. Anyone see a pattern developing here?

Well, since Hilary won't be able to get the Independent vote, assuming that she is still in the running and not in jail, then it isn't about the Latin vote so much. If all the Republicans vote Republican and the Independents vote Republican by a majority, then a Democrat could conceivably have the Latin vote and still not win the election. After all, I doubt Hilary will get much of a black turnout for her. She can incite them all she wants, but she might make them angry but not stupid enough to vote for her. NO ONE trusts her, let alone the black voter. And, suppose Rubio or Cruz are nominated. Do you think the Latin voter is going to vote for Hilary? Did the blacks vote for McCain? I doubt that Trump will be the nominee.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well, since Hilary won't be able to get the Independent vote, assuming that she is still in the running and not in jail, then it isn't about the Latin vote so much. If all the Republicans vote Republican and the Independents vote Republican by a majority, then a Democrat could conceivably have the Latin vote and still not win the election. After all, I doubt Hilary will get much of a black turnout for her. She can incite them all she wants, but she might make them angry but not stupid enough to vote for her. NO ONE trusts her, let alone the black voter. And, suppose Rubio or Cruz are nominated. Do you think the Latin voter is going to vote for Hilary? Did the blacks vote for McCain? I doubt that Trump will be the nominee.

And here is a surprise for the trophy seeking, party loving folks.

Some candidates are running for President because they believe in things and are not pandering for votes.

Some on here keep posting when a candidate speaks from the heart.....well, how can he/she get that vote.....you know, winning the trophy is not always the goal. Trying to convince folks to support your plans to make the country better is a better goal.

I realize that is foreign to many, but I prefer those who speak from their heart and not with a copy of a poll in their hand.

Other night, a poster was flat out maligning a few candidates basically because they believed in something and she objected to that. I might not agree with them, but they have my instant respect.

Originally Posted by Guest

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act.

No matter what happens, President Obama has only one person to blame for both the continuing distrust on the Affordable Care Act and the Iran deal.

Back in 2014, there was an opinion piece that I read and concur with. I looked and finally was able to pin it down.

It speaks to our President never asking for advice and feeling that his opinion is the only opinion and is always correct.

A few "outages" from that piece, which is on the Iran deal, but you can substitute the Affordable Care act as well...

"President Obama’s insistence on consulting largely with himself on the world’s most complex issues is well known. Most troublesome for the outcome with Iran is his rejection of needed support from Congress."

This insistence was apparent in the Affordable Care ramp up. He did not want any input at all and was forced to have a dog and pony show on CSPAN, in which he mocked Republicans PUBLICLY. I designated that day that the was the end of any cooperation between the parties, as he manifested that it was "his way or the highway"

While negotiations were on going in 2014 and concessions were being made...

"Throughout the negotiations, however, the Obama Administration has gone out of its way to weaken the U.S. negotiating hand. Earlier this year, the White House twisted arms in the Senate to abandon a bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by 60 of the chamber’s 100 legislators, that put in place stronger sanctions against Iran in case those talks failed.

Despite Mr. Obama’s opposition, the Senate had led the push to hit Iran’s economy harder, forcing the regime to the table. Noting Iran’s opposition to this year’s sanctions bill, Administration officials said they wanted to send a goodwill gesture to Tehran. As the summer deadline extension showed, the Iranians offered nothing in return."


Those who look at our world and think that NOBODY but the President can be correct, are doing a real disservice to themselves, because not only are they totally and freely ignoring what has happened in this country for six years but making the situation much more diverse than it need be,

Obama, Congress and Iran - WSJ

When John Kerry appeared before Congress, he was asked by a democrat, Representative Brad Sherman (D., Calif.) if the LAW will be followed by the administration if the veto is overridden, which is probably not going to happen.

But his response was telling in that he would not commit without consulting with the President. Sherman pressed in shock and asked him if he were implying that the LAW would not be followed by the President. Kerry would not commit.

If you need a link to that, either google or ask. I is a video on several sites.

The key is this President has made this mess with Democrats and Republicans and has even offended many....well, lets say LOTS within his party with his idea that HE and only HE....not the law...he should have the final say on everything.

We need in the next election and this will be my guide, a statesman and someone who understands the meaning of compromise and hearing others ideas and also understanding this is not someone's kingdom

Republicans will criticize Democrats...Democrats will criticize Republicans, but the last 6 years the cadence has picked up. I just suggest you consider what I am saying. There is a lot of information to bolster this and when this administration is done, there will be many many books written about how this President, single handily has widened the crevice of understanding, not only in politics but in race and other areas. And he has only himself to blame

What the heck does your rambling rant have to do with the original post?

If you want to start a new thread, do so, but stay on topic.

Originally Posted by Guest

What the heck does your rambling rant have to do with the original post?

If you want to start a new thread, do so, but stay on topic.

Just responding to posts about voting blocks. But you have fun now !!

Originally Posted by Guest

Just responding to posts about voting blocks. But you have fun now !!

"Voting blocs". Look it up.

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act

I know Republicans only watch Fox News. If you watched other news stations, you wouldn't make this comparison. This week MSNBC raked the Republicans over the coals concerning the dire consequences Boehner, McConnell, and others predicted would happen to the economy, and the health care industry due to ACA. They were proven wrong on everything. They were so wrong that they aren't even talking about it now.

If you haven't noticed, ACA doesn't come up much except by Republican candidates, who never provide any great detail into how they would replace it.

If the Iran agreement turns out to be the same disaster(LOL) as ACA, it will go in history as a great agreement. Sorry, I changed the subject. You were on such a roll talking about Trump's stupidness.

Originally Posted by Guest

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act

I know Republicans only watch Fox News. If you watched other news stations, you wouldn't make this comparison. This week MSNBC raked the Republicans over the coals concerning the dire consequences Boehner, McConnell, and others predicted would happen to the economy, and the health care industry due to ACA. They were proven wrong on everything. They were so wrong that they aren't even talking about it now.

If you haven't noticed, ACA doesn't come up much except by Republican candidates, who never provide any great detail into how they would replac,e it.

If the Iran agreement turns out to be the same disaster(LOL) as ACA, it will go in history as a great agreement. Sorry, I changed the subject. You were on such a roll talking about Trump's stupidness.

BS!

Originally Posted by Guest

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act

I know Republicans only watch Fox News. If you watched other news stations, you wouldn't make this comparison. This week MSNBC raked the Republicans over the coals concerning the dire consequences Boehner, McConnell, and others predicted would happen to the economy, and the health care industry due to ACA. They were proven wrong on everything. They were so wrong that they aren't even talking about it now.

If you haven't noticed, ACA doesn't come up much except by Republican candidates, who never provide any great detail into how they would replace it.

If the Iran agreement turns out to be the same disaster(LOL) as ACA, it will go in history as a great agreement. Sorry, I changed the subject. You were on such a roll talking about Trump's stupidness.

Wrong. Says something when you attempt to use MSNBC as a reference. Lowest rated network out there.

Originally Posted by Guest

When did Donald's mother become a citizen?

Are you a citizen?

Originally Posted by Guest

This Iran situation is simply a repeat of the Affordable Care Act

I know Republicans only watch Fox News. If you watched other news stations, you wouldn't make this comparison. This week MSNBC raked the Republicans over the coals concerning the dire consequences Boehner, McConnell, and others predicted would happen to the economy, and the health care industry due to ACA. They were proven wrong on everything. They were so wrong that they aren't even talking about it now.

If you haven't noticed, ACA doesn't come up much except by Republican candidates, who never provide any great detail into how they would replace it.

If the Iran agreement turns out to be the same disaster(LOL) as ACA, it will go in history as a great agreement. Sorry, I changed the subject. You were on such a roll talking about Trump's stupidness.

Nothing to do with the subject. Go away troll.

Originally Posted by Guest

The exceptions to the 14th amendment are children born to foreign diplomats or hostile forces are not automatically U.S. citizens. It would take another amendment to rescind the 14th amendment.

Frequently Asked Questions: Defending Citizenship Under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution | American Civil Liberties Union

The supreme court could do it without an amendment.

This thread has gone useless!