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Old 08-05-2015, 01:17 PM
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I don't blame Hillary for attempting to re-define who she is. Because who she is now is not very flattering. I wonder how she is going to look in orange. I understand that orange is the new black.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:56 PM
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I understand that in Hillary's new campaign adds, she is adorned in an orange jumpsuit. She doesn't say a whole bunch, but when someone asks her a question, she has been told by her lawyers to plead the 5th. She plans to introduce a new dress code in the White House, orange. You see, orange is the new black.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:16 PM
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Reading a left wing British paper today a newspaper that is supportive of a lot that Ms Clinton has done, but ....

"Part of the trouble is that she is simply not a very good candidate. The offstage Clinton has a captivating laugh and a terrific sense of humour. But this human touch gets lost on the campaign trail. All too easily she comes across as joyless and calculating.

What successful politician, you may ask, doesn’t appear calculating? Well, her husband for one; no one has ever done premeditated spontaneity like Bill Clinton. Watch the pair perform at the same event and the contrast in the ability to connect is almost embarrassing.

There are deeper reasons for this summer of discontent with Clinton. There is the matter of her age. Yes, both Biden and Sanders are even more ancient, but she would be 69 on inauguration day 2017 – older than any incoming president bar Ronald Reagan. Presidential elections are about the future. Reagan had a vision for the future, but Republicans will ceaselessly underline that Clinton is a creature from the past – a fixture of top-level national politics for almost a quarter of a century, with nothing more to offer."


Now she has one fan on this forum who is always repeating her tweets trying to knock down real candidate that answer questions by skewing any little misstep, but this writer says.....

"And what precisely is her vision? Even now it's hard to know what Clinton really stands for. In keeping with her new family status, her advertisements seek to foster a caring, grandmotherly image. Her overriding concern, they make clear, is the plight of the “99 per cent”, shorthand for an American middle class that has taken a beating over the past two decades. But – thanks both to old contacts and vast fees from corporate speeches – the Clintons themselves are now part of the 1 per cent. They move in its gilded circle as if to the manner born.

Under pressure from Sanders, an unvarnished conviction politician who is drawing massive crowds with his excoriations of Wall Street and advocacy of a single-payer healthcare system, Clinton has moved to the left. But how far, and for how long? A candidate long cosy with high finance now advocates a crackdown on Wall Street (sort of). She’s silent on the merits of the mooted Asian trade pact, and of the pipeline to bring oil from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico."


It goes on and on, this supporter of hers......

Why Hillary Clinton shouldn't gloat over the Republicans just yet - Voices - The Independent

Might add the final paragraph or so begins...

"Many voters simply do not trust her. The reasons are manifold: "
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:31 PM
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And Donald Trump is two years older than Hillary Clinton, and yet he leads the republican pact by a long shot (mostly two to one in the polls) and his age is rarely mentioned, if ever. There seems to be some misogyny happening here.
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And Donald Trump is two years older than Hillary Clinton, and yet he leads the republican pact by a long shot (mostly two to one in the polls) and his age is rarely mentioned, if ever. There seems to be some misogyny happening here.
I am stupid....do not use words like misogyny since I do not have a good working knowledge of that word.

I posted a link and copied it so you could read it...

WHO ARE YOU ARGUING WITH ? THE WRITER ? I suggest that you write him and tell him what you think.

So that is the only thing in his article that you considered of value....gee...check the next post
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:37 PM
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"ALEXANDRIA, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Scott Taylor, President of SPECIAL OPERATIONS EDUCATION FUND (OPSEC), announced today that OPSEC is formally calling upon Secretary of State John Kerry to immediately suspend any and all security clearances presently held by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; her former Chief of Staff, Cheryl Mills; her former Deputy Chief of Staff, Jake Sullivan and her advisor Huma Abedin until final adjudication of any violations of national security regulations or laws." http://opsecteam.org/download/080315_Letter.pdf

Not a political group by far

"Two independent Inspectors General, General Linick at U. S. Department of State and General McCullough at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, have separately established that classified information has been mishandled and that the scope and nature of the attendant circumstances are serious enough to warrant referral to the Department of Justice."


OPSEC Calls for the Immediate Suspension of Any Security Clearances Held by Former Secretary Hillary Clinton and Three Other Former State Department Officials | Business Wire

I do understand how much more important the issue of Bush's gaffe was.....so much more to make an error like that.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:50 PM
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It always is interesting to read these posts...

in 2008 and even in 2012, the age of the Republican candidate was an issue on the stump, but more in this political forum...NOW....it appears to have become less of an issue and a response to an editorial who mentioned Clintons age is met with a retort about Donald Trump's age.

In 2012, Mr Romney's finances and how much he made were an issue. Now you hear crickets about Ms Clinton and her money and how she ranks in the same percentile.

In 2012, I recall a weeks worth of discussion on CNN and especially on MSNBC about Romney being a bully in MIDDLE SCHOOL.

How can posters totally ignore how Ms Clinton served as Secy of State and her mishandling and bad judgment ? How much bigger of a condemnation can there possibly be for a candidate for President ?

i do not get it at all. If Perot did not run in 1992 wonder where she would be today ?

Now do not come on here and tell me how she might be the next President. I know that and that is what is so sad...so very sad the state of our politics.

You know as I think about it....I had a duo in my mind I would like to see, but maybe Donald Trump is the answer.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:01 PM
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It always is interesting to read these posts...

in 2008 and even in 2012, the age of the Republican candidate was an issue on the stump, but more in this political forum...NOW....it appears to have become less of an issue and a response to an editorial who mentioned Clintons age is met with a retort about Donald Trump's age.

In 2012, Mr Romney's finances and how much he made were an issue. Now you hear crickets about Ms Clinton and her money and how she ranks in the same percentile.

In 2012, I recall a weeks worth of discussion on CNN and especially on MSNBC about Romney being a bully in MIDDLE SCHOOL.

How can posters totally ignore how Ms Clinton served as Secy of State and her mishandling and bad judgment ? How much bigger of a condemnation can there possibly be for a candidate for President ?

i do not get it at all. If Perot did not run in 1992 wonder where she would be today ?

Now do not come on here and tell me how she might be the next President. I know that and that is what is so sad...so very sad the state of our politics.

You know as I think about it....I had a duo in my mind I would like to see, but maybe Donald Trump is the answer.

Possibly you only hear crickets about the Clinton's money because the republican front runner, Donald Trump, could buy and sell the Clintons 100 times over. When Trump gets the nomination and releases eight years of tax returns, it will be like holy-moly.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:14 PM
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Possibly you only hear crickets about the Clinton's money because the republican front runner, Donald Trump, could buy and sell the Clintons 100 times over. When Trump gets the nomination and releases eight years of tax returns, it will be like holy-moly.
You will need to show me the relationship.

Donald Trump is a private business person and seems to be very proud of his income and net worth.

Now, Hillary Clinton left the WH broke and in debt and made her money by speaking and being a senator and ex Secy State

DIFFERENCE is SHE is so hypocritical it is almost funny....on July 7 of this year, she made a speech at a house party where she said a lot of things but one was this..."And we've got to get all this dark, unaccountable money out of our political system. "

This is from an newspaper article just last week..""A Democrat-aligned super PAC financed by a pair of dark money groups wrote a seven-figure check to Hillary Clinton's super PAC in June, infusing a key pro-Clinton outfit with money whose sources are virtually untraceable."

There are many many more examples of the hypocrisy. One reason Trump is popular is that it appears there is no hypocrisy.

You are making being RICH a bad thing...that is not what people do not like about Hillary Clinton. It is her lying about where she got it...how she got it and then the hypocrisy she spreads about it.

Nothing wrong with being rich.

AGAIN ....You have no clue about the issue. How much you have is not the issue although it was in 2012 when Romney, who was considered a hero millionaire was chastised for having it.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:16 PM
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OH...and no crickets my lady.

It is all over the mainstream media...you should try something other than party propaganda and once the Republican primary is over, I am betting it will be one of the biggest issues....NOT how much she has, but where it came from and the hypocrisy in what she says about it.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:31 PM
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Allow me to add to the hypocrisy of this matter...

this is from way way way back in April....and the title of the article is...

HILLARY BREAKNG THE HYPOCRISY METER

It is just one example but boy oh boy...if you think the crickets as you call them are going to continue, sorry about that....there is so so much more of this ...

"In a brief interview with The Washington Post, Clinton said she had developed a plan to overhaul the way money is spent in political campaigns. Earlier in the day she said she wanted to fix the country’s “dysfunctional” campaign finance system, even backing a constitutional amendment if necessary.

Asked about her campaign finance agenda, Clinton said, “We do have a plan. We have a plan for my plan.”

Clinton added, “I’m going to be rolling out a lot of my policies…Stay tuned.”

When The Post asked about the role of Priorities USA Action, a pro-Clinton super PAC currently trying to raise hundreds of millions of dollars to help her campaign, Clinton shrugged her shoulders and said, “I don’t know.”

In other words, it’s time to get other peoples’ money out of politics. And she isn’t yet prepared to tell us what her “plan for a plan” is. And remember this is the woman who socked away millions from giving speeches to Wall Street firms, allowing her to be more than comfortable and unemployed while running for office.


This is a woman who is running and a big part is anti Wall St.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...pocrisy-meter/
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Old 08-06-2015, 06:57 AM
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Tell me what conspiracy it is that the Clintons' $15 million donation to charity went to the Clinton Foundation that pays their expenses? Oh, and they declared it as a write off on their taxes. That's what we want in a president, ethics....good old ethics.....or not.
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Hillary Clinton and Don Trump have released tax records.

Why haven't all the other 16 or so Republican candidates put their tax records out for public scrutiny yet?
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Hillary Clinton and Don Trump have released tax records.

Why haven't all the other 16 or so Republican candidates put their tax records out for public scrutiny yet?
Why? Really, what difference does it make? Especially this early before the elections. Just asking. You may have a reason that I don't see right now.
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Why? Really, what difference does it make? Especially this early before the elections. Just asking. You may have a reason that I don't see right now.
No she does not. This is constant with this poster...she did it last cycle and will continue.

It must be on one of the tweeters she follows, but it seems to be a Dem issue although never anyone fell short
 

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