Originally Posted by Guest

Since you stated that it was a fact, please provide a credible source for your delusion.

Just good old common sense, my friend.

Originally Posted by Guest

The image caste by the Great Recession is one that every president wants as a shining example of his accomplishments during his presidency. Going into the Iraq war under false pretenses is another example of a job well done. Do you think that maybe just maybe the current Republicans hopefuls are staying away from him. The one that cant is Jeb, and how is he doing?

Your last paragraph is total Republican nonsense that isn't backup with facts only hate.

Amazing isn't it, when McConnell filibusters just about everything, this isn't consider as being obstructive. Republicans do drive down a lovely one way street.

About a minute behind the trail blazing democrats.

Originally Posted by Guest

Just good old common sense, my friend.

So, it's not a fact after all? Just another delusion...I mean opinion.

Originally Posted by Guest

So, it's not a fact after all? Just another delusion...I mean opinion.

And you know what they say about opinions, right? And it's hard to tell his opinion from his a....

Unlike all of the former Dem Presidents it has long been the policy of the former " R " Presidents to NEVER comment on policy or the performance of the current President .
You can trace this practice as far back as President Eisenhower .
However every single Dem Ex President since JFK has been an active commentator on the performance of the Incumbent President regardless of the Party of the Incumbent .
Further every single former "R" President has taken the approach that they should stay out of Political issues and rarely if ever have backed any candidate for any office .
[ Just like Baseball --- you can look it up ]

Originally Posted by Guest

You do know, for a fact, if it was allowed by law - Pesident Obama WOULD be re-elected to a third term.

No Republican candidate could beat him.

No Republican candidate will be able to beat whichever Democrat is the nominee.

BS!!!

Originally Posted by guest

just good old common sense, my friend.

followed by more bs!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

followed by more bs!!!

Ah, The Tea Bag Party has spoken - in a most eloquent way, as usual, for them.

Originally Posted by Guest

Ah, The Tea Bag Party has spoken - in a most eloquent way, as usual, for them.

Is there no end to the BS

Originally Posted by Guest

You don't know what you are talking about. If you knew what caused the so-called great recession, you would know that Bush had nothing to do with it. And remember, you had two years of Democrat controlled congress at the end of Bush's administration. Bush and other presidents also had their recessions, but each one of the rebounded in a tenth the time it is taking this president. He ran on having all the answers. Fact is that he let his mouth write checks that bounced, because he didn't have the brains or the ambition to fix things. His purpose was to destroy, not fix. If you can't see that, then you are blind. And now, the Dems want to do exactly the same thing that got us into this mess, all over again, before we even climb out of this ditch. Frank-Dodd my as.....!!

The only hate that I have is for stupid. And this country is getting more and more stupid as the we allow the youth to speak out. WE fought socialism in the battle fields and you ALL embrace it, like it is something new and innovative. What a bunch of stupid losers! Yep, I hate stupid and anyone trying to destroy my country.

I don't know what I am talking about. No, Bush and the Republican party don't wash there hands clean on the 2007/20088 recession. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes...reat_Recession

What party is the party that is interested in deregulating everything. Dodd/Frank was put into law to stop the excess of banks, leading institutions. What party opposed going so far as not to approved Elisabeth Warren as administrator of the oversight branch of government to try not to repeat the recession?

Originally Posted by Guest

You don't know what you are talking about. If you knew what caused the so-called great recession, you would know that Bush had nothing to do with it. And remember, you had two years of Democrat controlled congress at the end of Bush's administration. Bush and other presidents also had their recessions, but each one of the rebounded in a tenth the time it is taking this president. He ran on having all the answers. Fact is that he let his mouth write checks that bounced, because he didn't have the brains or the ambition to fix things. His purpose was to destroy, not fix. If you can't see that, then you are blind. And now, the Dems want to do exactly the same thing that got us into this mess, all over again, before we even climb out of this ditch. Frank-Dodd my as.....!!

The only hate that I have is for stupid. And this country is getting more and more stupid as the we allow the youth to speak out. WE fought socialism in the battle fields and you ALL embrace it, like it is something new and innovative. What a bunch of stupid losers! Yep, I hate stupid and anyone trying to destroy my country.

You want to look at a real biased view of the great recession read this. "The Bush Recession" -- Let's Call it What It Is | Steve Rosenbaum

Your first paragraph is really short on facts. In fact, it twists just about everything.

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You want to look at a real biased view of the great recession read this. "The Bush Recession" -- Let's Call it What It Is*|*Steve Rosenbaum

Your first paragraph is really short on facts. In fact, it twists just about everything.

The author, Steve Rosenbaum, has been taking Bush to task pretty much for many years.

Your link is 6 1/2 years old, and certainly has some truths, but for example, when he refers to mortgages given during the Bush presidency, he totally and completely ignores and does not mention the Community Reinvestment act.

That act, backed and endorsed by the Clinton admin made the mortgages explode. Example, in Clinton years mortgages rose in the 50/60 percent range; in the Bush years it was about 1 percent.

Posting a link that old, you might as well gather all the articles Mr Rosenbaum has penned, going back even further and guess what...in each he goes after Bush and leaves out convenient facts such as I pointed out.

I think an analysis that old, with just selected facts is hardly something to post anywhere.

Only someone who is not well read would post such a link and the entire thread is bogus.

The financial crisis that President Obama did in fact walk into was the fault of a number of people as most are, and while we have much to learn from that crisis, we should be more inclined to address our current economics, and using lessons learned from anything in the past.

A link that goes back SIX AND HALF YEARS and avoids and hides facts in play are not exactly the best to rely on unless your intent is purely to make some vague political point.

I think one of the best analysis of that financial crisis was done by Newsweek and it named the 25 folks most to blame.

Yes, George Bush is on the list for sure and I am sure that makes some of you folks who disregard facts very happy.

Here is the link to that listing of people

Bill Clinton - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME

It will be boring for all of you who want to lay this on some President...the only two mentioned and rightfully so are Clinton and Bush, but so many forget to add Clinton to the list and boy he sure deserves to be on the list.

I find this thread completely bogus and if someone wants to discuss 2008 and back all over again, they should start a thread. There are lots of analysis available that are non political thus you probably wont care.

From that Newsweek article, comes this and this was written in 2009.

It is NOT intended to defend Bush nor malign anyone else, but since the thread is about Bush, it seems applicable....

"George Bush is leaving the White House with a dismal economic record. By almost every measure — GDP growth, jobs, median incomes, financial-market performance — he stacks up as probably the least-successful President on the economic front since Herbert Hoover.

It's not all Bush's fault. He inherited an inevitable recession in 2001, and even last year's financial collapse was to some extent the result of unsustainable trends in place long before he moved to Washington. Also, we generally give Presidents both more credit and more blame for economic outcomes than they probably deserve. As Bush mock-moaned in his final White House press conference, "Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch?"

His next words, though, were, "It's just pathetic, isn't it, self-pity?" So let's spare him the pity. As the decider in the White House for the past eight years, George Bush made some economic calls that don't look smart today.

They then went on to list 8 specific error that he made.

Point is NO FINANCIAL CRISIS IS MADE BY ONE PERSON. Nobody recalls how Bush wanted tighter controls on Wall St to prevent the bubble and he was totally rebuffed by a Democratic congress. How he was mocked when he warned everyone about Fannie Mae, etc

None of this absolves his part and every President makes mistakes (although from reading it appears the current President has made none), but why waste a thread trying to pin something on a man that you cannot possibly do.

Originally Posted by Guest

Only someone who is not well read would post such a link and the entire thread is bogus.

The financial crisis that President Obama did in fact walk into was the fault of a number of people as most are, and while we have much to learn from that crisis, we should be more inclined to address our current economics, and using lessons learned from anything in the past.

A link that goes back SIX AND HALF YEARS and avoids and hides facts in play are not exactly the best to rely on unless your intent is purely to make some vague political point.

I think one of the best analysis of that financial crisis was done by Newsweek and it named the 25 folks most to blame.

Yes, George Bush is on the list for sure and I am sure that makes some of you folks who disregard facts very happy.

Here is the link to that listing of people

Bill Clinton - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME

It will be boring for all of you who want to lay this on some President...the only two mentioned and rightfully so are Clinton and Bush, but so many forget to add Clinton to the list and boy he sure deserves to be on the list.

I find this thread completely bogus and if someone wants to discuss 2008 and back all over again, they should start a thread. There are lots of analysis available that are non political thus you probably wont care.

I posted two links. The first was Wikipedia. The second was the biased one.
Maybe just maybe you should read the first sentence in that post. Here it is, "If you want to read a real biased article, read this." Then then link.

Only a person that has to start every post attacking someone would completely ignore that sentence. Are you looking to win a prize for the most obnoxious person on the board? Keep it up. You have a lot of Republican competition.