The Differences Between Hillary and Sarah!

 
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:53 AM
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Talking Get a Grip!

Political humor is as old as this country SteveZ. Lighten up! Remember the old saying "if they can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

I, for one, would vote for Tina Fey before I'd ever vote for Palin!
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
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Personnally I laughed my A** off.
I'm with Cologal! I thought this was a very funny spoof .. both Dems and Republicans should be able to see the humour!
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:25 PM
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Political humor is as old as this country SteveZ. Lighten up! Remember the old saying "if they can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

I, for one, would vote for Tina Fey before I'd ever vote for Palin!
Was things any better last September in this forum?
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:45 PM
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I was also glad to see somebody else quote Truman for those who dislike the content. I won't repeat it for fear of being mis-interpreted for asking someone to leave.

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Old 08-01-2009, 06:06 PM
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Default Also " The Buck Stops Here"

U.S. president Harry S. Truman had a sign with this inscription on his desk. This was meant to indicate that he didn't 'pass the buck' to anyone else but accepted personal responsibility for the way the country was governed.

That would be a refreshing attitude for 2009.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:00 PM
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When you can't defeat the message, kill the messenger. That's a tactic of most political cartoonists, comedians who can't be "funny" at anything other than borderline-slander, and others who are often envious of another's ability to excel.

Making fun of people for the sake of a laugh at someone's expense used to be considered as bad manners. Yet, slap a political party label on someone and it's considered open season on the person, their family and all around them.

And we wonder why so many exceptional people who could do wonders for this nation shun public service. With all the Bruce Tinsley's, David Letterman's and Saturday Night Live's - and those who encourage them by adoration - around us, it's more of a surprise that anyone would want to try to make a difference.

And if it were any of us, our families or friends dragged through the muck or made fun of for the sake of a rating or more money, we'd be outraged at the unfairness of it all. But, what the heck, we don't know these people and (more importantly) they don't know us, so let's have a laugh....
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:21 PM
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Steve Z "And if it were any of us, our families or friends dragged through the muck or made fun of for the sake of a rating or more money, we'd be outraged at the unfairness of it all. But, what the heck, we don't know these people and (more importantly) they don't know us, so let's have a laugh.... "

Make no mistake, it was Sarah Palin's choice to drag her children through the mud as a "family values" mom. No one else's. It's her problem, not America's, that her family values didn't live up to what she was claiming the rest of American families "should" be about.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:48 PM
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Steve Z "And if it were any of us, our families or friends dragged through the muck or made fun of for the sake of a rating or more money, we'd be outraged at the unfairness of it all. But, what the heck, we don't know these people and (more importantly) they don't know us, so let's have a laugh.... "

Make no mistake, it was Sarah Palin's choice to drag her children through the mud as a "family values" mom. No one else's. It's her problem, not America's, that her family values didn't live up to what she was claiming the rest of American families "should" be about.
Sarah Palin's choice to drag her children through the mud? Are you serious? All politicians are advised to show their family. That is part of the process. It is the despicable "news" media that decides whose family to drag through the mud.
For instance, when a certain faction attempted to drag Chelsea Clinton through the mud when Bill and Hillary started to showcase her, the wagon circled on the left and it was seized. Sarah didn't have the luxury to have the media stop.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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Sarah Palin's choice to drag her children through the mud? Are you serious? All politicians are advised to show their family. That is part of the process. It is the despicable "news" media that decides whose family to drag through the mud.
For instance, when a certain faction attempted to drag Chelsea Clinton through the mud when Bill and Hillary started to showcase her, the wagon circled on the left and it was seized. Sarah didn't have the luxury to have the media stop.
True!
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:31 PM
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When John McCain asked Sarah Palin to be his running mate, she should have said, "Thanks, but no thanks!"

I'm an independent, but I think that the GOP had the wrong candidate at the head of the ticket......with the economy in the tank, I think Mitt Romney would have been a better choice.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:36 PM
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When John McCain asked Sarah Palin to be his running mate, she should have said, "Thanks, but no thanks!"

I'm an independent, but I think that the GOP had the wrong candidate at the head of the ticket......with the economy in the tank, I think Mitt Romney would have been a better choice.
I agree. I have heard from businessmen that they went on cruise control when McCain got the nod because everybody saw it as another Bob Dole scenario. That was well over a year ago. There was no confidence for the economy even back then.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:41 PM
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I wasn't going to get into this Palin post because those who "like" her repeatedly ignore any information challenging her intellect or competence to be a productive national leader. We have all seen and heard the outrageous comments Palin has made, shockingly inaccurate and immature. I've never heard any other public personage compared to Leno's embarrassingly uninformed "jaywalkers". And despite the efforts of advisors who are trying to close the gaps in her education and groom her for a bright future, here is a very recent Palin profundity from her farewell remarks as Alaska's governor: "It is as throughout all Alaska that big wild good life teeming along the road that is north to the future." (huh?) What conceivable context might lend some meaning to these words?

So I've kept wondering WHY folks would like Palin, other than thinking that her physical beauty or feisty personality are critical attributes for a successful national leader. I think there are literally millions of folks who would vote for her for President tomorrow for one or both of those reasons - whether or not they would realize it or admit it.
But what about the TOTV political forum contributors who like Palin? I have not seen a single defense of her comments about what magazines she reads or her knowledge of geography. Yet I feel certain not a single one would vote for Palin because she is pretty or feisty! So what are their reasons for liking her? From the above posts and earlier threads, this is the best I can come up with:
Sarah Palin is an interesting person; a kind of 'rugged individualist' type who believes in some good American fundamentals; a fresh face who does not deserve to be the subject of unrelentingly vicious, biased, liberal media attacks.

I just don't agree. Those vague personal qualities could be attributed to millions of Americans. As far as being an undeserving victim, the voice of media is one of our greatest assets and often our best source of the truth. We don't always like what they say because of our own biases, but most of the time they just report facts or comment about facts. The thing I've seen forever in the media is the direct relationship between the amount of attention given to a person and the 'outrageous quotient' of that person's statements and actions. Barrels of ink have been used to describe Palin's comments and actions BECAUSE they have been repeatedly outrageous. I think it's healthy to be reminded often of those things which are out there on the extreme rather than in the familiar middle ground. This is not to "make fun" of Ms. Palin, it is simply judging her on the basis of her own comments and actions. And for me, it will not be enough if the 'experts' spin her into an articulate, mature and thoughtful sounding candidate for something. I'm looking for leaders whose intelligence and leadership qualities are their own.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:49 PM
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Well gee whiz...maybe when they let her have a teleprompter of her own maybe she won't talk stupidly. Maybe she'll rise to those lofty Joe(gaffe a minute) Biden heights.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:25 PM
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If I were Sarah Palin, I would recognize reality, and I would simply want a fat contract with Fox News so that my time in the spotlight would be as profitable as possible. If I were Sarah Palin, I would know that Fox would hire me in a heartbeat if I so much as smiled and winked in their direction. And I would go for it. You betcha.

I am not a fan of Sarah Palin. I am fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

But in all fairness, I think the Republicans did her a great disservice. Talk about something that happened fast. She came straight out of right field. She was not ready. And never will be. I think the kingmakers thought that enough women would buy in because she is a woman and that enough men would buy in because of her looks and that feisty thing she's got going on. Also, they were pandering to the ultra-conservative voters whose first concern was their view of social issues rather than an economy on the brink. Sarah Palin created diversion from the real issues facing our country. I think the Republicans underestimated the American voter. And they sold out their moderates with the Sarah Palin nomination. And the fact that Sarah Palin did not turn down the offer spoke volumes to me about her decision making skills. I think the party did her a disservice, and McCain rolled over.

And I hope they do not run her in 2012. I just don't think she has what it takes to be the leader of the free world.

Sooooo, if I were Sarah Palin, I would get out that communications degree. And I would look in the mirror and I would think, "Hey! You know what. I am daggone cute. And I am really tired of all these questions about geography and my kids and all that. And so maybe it is time for me to ask the questions."

And then, if I were Sarah Palin, I would zero in on a big fat contract with Fox News and I would work it. Yep, I would work it. And I would blow Billy-O right outa the water. I would be the one with the hot primetime show where I could ask the questions. Instead of having to answer them.

And that's what I would do, if I were Sarah Palin. Before everybody forgets who I am.

Boomer

(And I do not know why I am in here in this thread. I keep trying to stay out of this forum. But wait! Yes I do. It is after midnight and I think it is a full moon.)
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:50 AM
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If I were Sarah Palin, I would recognize reality, and I would simply want a fat contract with Fox News so that my time in the spotlight would be as profitable as possible. If I were Sarah Palin, I would know that Fox would hire me in a heartbeat if I so much as smiled and winked in their direction. And I would go for it. You betcha.

I am not a fan of Sarah Palin. I am fiscally conservative and socially progressive.

But in all fairness, I think the Republicans did her a great disservice. Talk about something that happened fast. She came straight out of right field. She was not ready. And never will be. I think the kingmakers thought that enough women would buy in because she is a woman and that enough men would buy in because of her looks and that feisty thing she's got going on. Also, they were pandering to the ultra-conservative voters whose first concern was their view of social issues rather than an economy on the brink. Sarah Palin created diversion from the real issues facing our country. I think the Republicans underestimated the American voter. And they sold out their moderates with the Sarah Palin nomination. And the fact that Sarah Palin did not turn down the offer spoke volumes to me about her decision making skills. I think the party did her a disservice, and McCain rolled over.

And I hope they do not run her in 2012. I just don't think she has what it takes to be the leader of the free world.

Sooooo, if I were Sarah Palin, I would get out that communications degree. And I would look in the mirror and I would think, "Hey! You know what. I am daggone cute. And I am really tired of all these questions about geography and my kids and all that. And so maybe it is time for me to ask the questions."

And then, if I were Sarah Palin, I would zero in on a big fat contract with Fox News and I would work it. Yep, I would work it. And I would blow Billy-O right outa the water. I would be the one with the hot primetime show where I could ask the questions. Instead of having to answer them.

And that's what I would do, if I were Sarah Palin. Before everybody forgets who I am.

Boomer

(And I do not know why I am in here in this thread. I keep trying to stay out of this forum. But wait! Yes I do. It is after midnight and I think it is a full moon.)
Hmmmmm When "social progressives" fear her, my ears stand up.
Decision making and giving good speeches are not necessarily one and the same. We have had good orators whose decisions are suspect. Present occupant of the White House comes to mind.
Americans are too focused on illusions and not real concrete choices.
 


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