Originally Posted by Abby10

Now look who's the hypocrite, liar, or any one of your other favorite words. I did direct a post to the 2 of you, but not for the same reason. In fact, I specifically spelled out to each one of you why, and now you're trying to to say I was accusing Rocky of generalizing like you.....NO, I was not! I'm beginning to realize your only purpose on this forum is to create chaos. Having a 2 way conversation is virtually impossible. I was hoping that was not true by trying to engage with you, but all you do is pick out one line in a post and go off on it. You don't seem to have any desire to converse, just fingerpoint.

I don't like generalizing no matter what kind or who does it, but we were specifically talking about racism and I think that is a much more serious matter. My opinion on any generalizations is that it stifles communication and understanding between the parties involved. In other words it's a conversation stopper, so if that's what one is looking to do than go for it. I'm just not interested.

As expected, you totally went off on a rant and didn't address your hypocrisy...regarding avoiding you lecturing MDLNB's on his 'generalizations.'

Thank you for proving me correct.

And yes, I understand that I can really pizz people off when I point out their hypocrisy, racism, bigotry, misogyny... and attempts to misdirect.

But hey, it's a burden that I've learned to carry.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

As expected, you totally went off on a rant and didn't address your hypocrisy...regarding avoiding you lecturing MDLNB's on his 'generalizations.'

Thank you for proving me correct.

And yes, I understand that I can really pizz people off when I point out their hypocrisy, racism, bigotry, misogyny... and attempts to misdirect.

But hey, it's a burden that I've learned to carry.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

While we're all showing gratitude here, I should thank you as well for proving me correct with your repsonse.

Originally Posted by Guest

While we're all showing gratitude here, I should thank you as well for proving me correct with your repsonse.

Ahh c'mon now, you're lowering my opinion of you.

While I know that you spout a lot of things that you don't really believe or follow, ie: hypocrisy, over-generalizations, ethical discourse in presenting a viewpoint, a (albeit loose) set of guiding principles...I at least was giving you the benefit of the doubt for some originality.

And now ya done went and copied me...due to a (hopefully, just momentarily) lapse of originality.

Now listen up, I expect a lot better from you in the future.

And yes, once again I admit to and realize...how damned annoying I can be.

But hey, ya gotta give me a couple of brownie points for having a great sense of humor...right?



Oh yeah, where's that lecture to MDLNB...for his nasty and denigrating generalization?



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

As expected, you totally went off on a rant and didn't address your hypocrisy...regarding avoiding you lecturing MDLNB's on his 'generalizations.'

Thank you for proving me correct.

And yes, I understand that I can really pizz people off when I point out their hypocrisy, racism, bigotry, misogyny... and attempts to misdirect.

But hey, it's a burden that I've learned to carry.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Hey, both of you try hard.

Allow me to explain ABBEY, while Coldnomore is a bit sensitive to this issue.

He and I, while of different political ideology find Trump to be..well, we don't like him.

Now, as you know there are a few creations on here who simply troll and make wise ass remarks..not worth the space their username takes.

They ALWAYS generalize, then attack with no substance ever.

When certain folks lecture anyone on here, you know, those who know all and feel entitled and in charge give lectures, said lecture is ALWAYS directed at either him or me or sometimes another poster that does not care for Trump.

They ignore the language, hate, sexual innuendos of the other people because they spend their time trolling anyone who dares to criticize Mr Trump.

An example.....our President insulted England, not once but twice by attacking the mayor of London for no reason except perhaps his own personal hate, but there exists in the main area of TOTV an entire thread digesting and critiquing the choice of language used during the Orlando shooting...we are speaking of what medical terms were used.

This total sickening hypocrisy bothers me and surely Coldnomore.

So, I think you two could have good discussions, but thought would explain what I think is back ground.

Done.

I should not speak for anyone, but you are both liberal leaning and I think would like good conversation. You do get a hair nerve with all the children lurking

Which reminds me....

DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND WHY OUR PRESIDENT WOULD MOCK THE MAYOR OF LONDON, NOT ONCE BUT TWICE, WHILE THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR COUNTRY TOGETHER ?

Seen around the world.

Or even.....

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY OUR PRESIDENT WHILE VISITING NATO, WOULD CHANGE HIS SPEECH TO DELIBERATELY REMOVE ANY ENDORSEMENT OF DEFENDING ARTICLE FIVE WHEN HIS SECURITY AND NATION ADVISORS SUGGESTED TO ALLUES HE WOULD, AND IT WAS IN HIS SPEECH ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Hey, both of you try hard.

Allow me to explain ABBEY, while Coldnomore is a bit sensitive to this issue.

He and I, while of different political ideology find Trump to be..well, we don't like him.

Now, as you know there are a few creations on here who simply troll and make wise ass remarks..not worth the space their username takes.

They ALWAYS generalize, then attack with no substance ever.

When certain folks lecture anyone on here, you know, those who know all and feel entitled and in charge give lectures, said lecture is ALWAYS directed at either him or me or sometimes another poster that does not care for Trump.

They ignore the language, hate, sexual innuendos of the other people because they spend their time trolling anyone who dares to criticize Mr Trump.

An example.....our President insulted England, not once but twice by attacking the mayor of London for no reason except perhaps his own personal hate, but there exists in the main area of TOTV an entire thread digesting and critiquing the choice of language used during the Orlando shooting...we are speaking of what medical terms were used.

This total sickening hypocrisy bothers me and surely Coldnomore.

So, I think you two could have good discussions, but thought would explain what I think is back ground.

Done.

Good post, but one important thing I would like to add.

While you and I don't often agree on general issues, we are about the ONLY ones who provide links (even if they're sometimes simply op-ed's)...to help make our point.

Even when that extra effort draws out the ridicule of simpletons like DirtBag...it still at least shows an attempt at having a serious discussion.



And to Abbey10;

The primary right-wing extremist lecturer here (RubiTHECon), who has a totally unsupported high opinion of himself, loves to bloviate and spew downright ignorant proclamations from his bully pulpit...but has YET to provide even ONE link to back him up.

Not even at a minimum...some right-wing extremist fanatic.

Not ONE.

Which is why, he has earned the moniker of... 'pseudo-intellectual.'

Now whether this is from the fact that he is ashamed of where he gets his info because even he knows it's mostly fake news, or it's because he isn't smart enough to know how to do something as simple as link to a post...you can quickly see why his moniker is so well deserved.

Originally Posted by Guest

Or even.....

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY OUR PRESIDENT WHILE VISITING NATO, WOULD CHANGE HIS SPEECH TO DELIBERATELY REMOVE ANY ENDORSEMENT OF DEFENDING ARTICLE FIVE WHEN HIS SECURITY AND NATION ADVISORS SUGGESTED TO ALLUES HE WOULD, AND IT WAS IN HIS SPEECH ?

My jaw dropped when I heard that today.

Especially given that even his own people, like McMaster/Tillerson/Mattis, were adamant that it be in the speech.

Donald Trump improvised Nato speech and shocked national security team by removing Article 5 support

When Donald Trump failed to mention Article 5 – the Nato provision that binds all member countries to each other's defence – in his recent speech at the alliance’s new headquarters, world leaders were shocked.

They weren’t the only ones.

Key members of Mr Trump’s national security team, including national security adviser HR McMaster, Defence Secretary James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, all believed he would endorse the article.

It wasn’t until Mr Trump finished delivering his address that they realised he had left the endorsement out.

“They had the right speech and it was cleared through McMaster,” a source briefed by National Security Council officials told Politico. “As late as that same morning, it was the right one.”

Now for those who may not know, THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE TIME THAT ARTICLE 5 WAS INVOKED...AND THAT WAS AFTER WE WERE ATTACKED ON 9/11.

That's right you Trump cultists, he deliberately left out support of an article...that has ONLY EVER been used to show support for us.

I smell the slimy hands of Bannon all over this.

It's just sad, that we are being reduced to being the laughingstock of the world...by a POTUS who is probably mentally ill.

Originally Posted by Guest

Good post, but one important thing I would like to add.

While you and I don't often agree on general issues, we are about the ONLY ones who provide links (even if their sometimes simply op-ed's)...to help make our point.

Even when that extra effort draws out the ridicule of simpletons like DirtBag...it still at least shows an attempt at having a serious discussion.



And to Abbey10;

The primary right-wing extremist lecturer here (RubiTHECon), who has a totally unsupported high opinion of himself, loves to bloviate and spew downright ignorant proclamations from his bully pulpit...but has YET to provide even ONE link to back him up.

Not even at a minimum...some right-wing extremist fanatic.

Not ONE.

Which is why, he has earned the moniker of... 'pseudo-intellectual.'

Now whether this is from the fact that he is ashamed of where he gets his info because even he knows it's mostly fake news, or it's because he isn't smart enough to know how to do something as simple as link to a post...you can quickly see why his moniker is so well deserved.

I am a bit embarrassed, but I may have incorrectly, or certainly overstepped or surely was out of line in "labeling" Abby as a liberal.

I should have simply said..she is a poster who is able to have adult conversation.

Originally Posted by Guest

My jaw dropped when I heard that today.

Especially given that even his own people, like McMaster/Tillerson/Mattis, were adamant that it be in the speech.

Donald Trump improvised Nato speech and shocked national security team by removing Article 5 support


Now for those who may not know, THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE TIME THAT ARTICLE 5 WAS INVOKED...AND THAT WAS AFTER WE WERE ATTACKED ON 9/11.

That's right you Trump cultists, he deliberately left out support of an article...that has ONLY EVER been used to show support for us.

I smell the slimy hands of Bannon all over this.

It's just sad, that we are being reduced to being the laughingstock of the world...by a POTUS who is probably mentally ill.

Well, at least they got those darn people straightened out on what words to use relative to the shooting in Orlando

That has definite precedent over the President speaking to the world and embarrassing our country.

And what's ironic....I really saw some good things in today's presentation on VA, and am curious on the traffic controller proposal.

But, as he needs to do, discussing policy is boring...if HE ISNT THE SHOW, then there is no show.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well, at least they got those darn people straightened out on what words to use relative to the shooting in Orlando

That has definite precedent over the President speaking to the world and embarrassing our country.

And what's ironic....I really saw some good things in today's presentation on VA, and am curious on the traffic controller proposal.

But, as he needs to do, discussing policy is boring...if HE ISNT THE SHOW, then there is no show.

Yeah, it was good that the phrasing on the shooting was outed...for the liberal PC conspiracy that it was.

Oh wait, the proof of the assertion that it originated from some pro-abortion group...was deftly dodged.

Originally Posted by Guest

Hey, both of you try hard.

Allow me to explain ABBEY, while Coldnomore is a bit sensitive to this issue.

He and I, while of different political ideology find Trump to be..well, we don't like him.

Now, as you know there are a few creations on here who simply troll and make wise ass remarks..not worth the space their username takes.

They ALWAYS generalize, then attack with no substance ever.

When certain folks lecture anyone on here, you know, those who know all and feel entitled and in charge give lectures, said lecture is ALWAYS directed at either him or me or sometimes another poster that does not care for Trump.

They ignore the language, hate, sexual innuendos of the other people because they spend their time trolling anyone who dares to criticize Mr Trump.

An example.....our President insulted England, not once but twice by attacking the mayor of London for no reason except perhaps his own personal hate, but there exists in the main area of TOTV an entire thread digesting and critiquing the choice of language used during the Orlando shooting...we are speaking of what medical terms were used.

This total sickening hypocrisy bothers me and surely Coldnomore.

So, I think you two could have good discussions, but thought would explain what I think is back ground.

Done.

I should not speak for anyone, but you are both liberal leaning and I think would like good conversation. You do get a hair nerve with all the children lurking

Thanks for taking the time to give an explanation. But, where did I come off as liberal leaning? Just needed to make that correction........I'm probably as conservative as CNM is liberal. Anyway, that's neither here nor there to me as far as getting along. I have family members that I love that are liberal and we have some good political discussions.......well sometimes.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am a bit embarrassed, but I may have incorrectly, or certainly overstepped or surely was out of line in "labeling" Abby as a liberal.

I should have simply said..she is a poster who is able to have adult conversation.

Didn't see this until after I just sent my post. I was in the middle of typing it earlier and got distracted here at home. No need to feel embarrassed or any of the above. Just don't ever insult me like that again!

Originally Posted by Guest

Ahh c'mon now, you're lowering my opinion of you.

While I know that you spout a lot of things that you don't really believe or follow, ie: hypocrisy, over-generalizations, ethical discourse in presenting a viewpoint, a (albeit loose) set of guiding principles...I at least was giving you the benefit of the doubt for some originality.

And now ya done went and copied me...due to a (hopefully, just momentarily) lapse of originality.

Now listen up, I expect a lot better from you in the future.

And yes, once again I admit to and realize...how damned annoying I can be.

But hey, ya gotta give me a couple of brownie points for having a great sense of humor...right?



Oh yeah, where's that lecture to MDLNB...for his nasty and denigrating generalization?



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

So, CNM, I'm gonna give you one more chance, but only because you made me laugh a little by your response. . You and Rocky have a good night.....it's way past my bedtime so I'm outta here!

Originally Posted by Abby10

So, CNM, I'm gonna give you one more chance, but only because you made me laugh a little by your response. . You and Rocky have a good night.....it's way past my bedtime so I'm outta here!

Oh c'mon, you're fibbing now.


I made you laugh more than... "a little."