Originally Posted by buggyone

Today's action was certainly a major coup for him and a real step upward.

No one can criticize it. It does not give citizenship and it does not threaten deportation to children who have been raised in Americal. It is a win-win for the President.

i see this as a win-win for those who qualify for the benefit - not as a win-win for the prez who has again made a purely insincere political move.

Originally Posted by janmcn

What do you call Mitt Romney, who during the GOP primary staked out the most extreme immigration position of the GOP field, saying he would repeal the Dream Act if congress passed it. Today Romney said he agrees with Senator Marco Rubio, who said earlier the president's act is "welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer".

Getting dizzy watching Romney change positions. President Obama might have assured today that Rubio will be the VP pick. Looks like you're running out of people to vote for.


EXCLUSIVE: Romney Immigration Adviser Calls Obama's New Policy 'Illegal' | ThinkProgress

seems to me that you and the article's author are making the assumption that BECAUSE romney did NOT come out and voice an opinion that is counter to the intent of this political action that he has changed his position since may. until i actually hear romney say something to that effect, i will not make the same assumption.

I'm thinking that the Obama Team has intel that Rubio is the pick for VP and has quickly tossed this new ruling out there to offset that choice. They seem to fire things off quickly and let the courts sort it out later.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The actions of a Dictator. His way or the highway. No Congress, no bills, not even an executive order.

If anyone needed any more proof that "The Amateur" needs to be run out of Washington on a rail, this is it.

This is the nail in the coffin of the Obama Presidency.

Doesn't behave much like an amateur.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Doesn't behave much like an amateur.

prob because he has axlerod and plouffe pulling his strings!

Republicans seem to forget that in 1986 their hero, President Ronald Reagan, passed the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act that granted amnesty to nearly three million illegal immigrants.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=128303672

Originally Posted by buggyone

Today's action was certainly a major coup for him and a real step upward.

No one can criticize it. It does not give citizenship and it does not threaten deportation to children who have been raised in Americal. It is a win-win for the President.

But it is a lose-lose for citizens and legal residents of the USA who are jobless and now have even more competition for jobs, since the people benefiting from today's executive order will be given work permits.

It is also a lose-lose for college students applying for financial aid, which is already less available to non-minority low-income students.

Again, the middle-income taxpayer will be subsidizing other students' financial aid while they (taxpayers) cannot afford to pay for their own children's college costs. And the citizen college students themselves, whose unemployment rate is already 25% or more, will have more competition for the jobs they need while in college because the illegals will now have work permits.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Are you calling the POTUS a ho?

I hope not. That would be an insult toy the honest ho's of this nation.

Originally Posted by BBQMan

I hope not. That would be an insult toy the honest ho's of this nation.

The Tea Peeps are throwing a hissy fit tonight.

Has Willard backed away from his self-deport nonsense?

Classy.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Doesn't behave much like an amateur.

You're wholly mistaken. This is going to cause a huge backlash. He's going to regret this day, even if he takes it back.

A true Amateur.

Originally Posted by billethkid

...It will definitely derail any hopes of immigration reform...

It was a smart political move by Obama, doing something that is impossible for either party to criticize. If there's any criticism at all it is that the POTUS has bypassed the Congressional legislative process.

But it really can't be alleged that Obama "derailed any hope of immigration reform". Sadly, there was no hope of any reform because of the ideological and political deep freeze in Congress.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

It was a smart political move by Obama, doing something that is impossible for either party to criticize. If there's any criticism at all it is that the POTUS has bypassed the Congressional legislative process.

But it really can't be alleged that Obama "derailed any hope of immigration reform". Sadly, there was no hope of any reform because of the ideological and political deep freeze in Congress.

The Dream Act is stalled in congress because Republican Senators filibustered the bill, even though it got 55 votes. The president's actions yesterday may cause congress to revisit this bill, or may cause Senator Marco Rubio to actually produce the bill that he's been working on but has yet to put anything in writing. These are the two choices for republicans if they hope to get any hispanic votes in the upcoming election.

Of course, we know that Speaker Boehner lead his house members on their ninth recess of the year, and this is only mid-June, so how could they debate anything?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You're wholly mistaken. This is going to cause a huge backlash. He's going to regret this day, even if he takes it back.

A true Amateur.

I love your references to FOX Noise constantly. Your television or computer must be linked to them 24/7. Bet it drives Mrs. Lion up the wall.

Anyhow, back to the message - this pre-emptive move by Pres. Obama against anything proposed in the future by Marko Rubio was brilliant. Mitt Romney cannot speak against it since Rubio wanted something very similar. It is not a law so it does not have to go through Congress. Brilliant is the best description for this exceptional political play that will benefit thousands of good young people in the USA.