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Originally Posted by rubicon

Yes, definitely Democrat Senators or Congressmen will have a lot of respect for this President who knows how to get things done when a Tea Party-esque House will not do any compromising and is mule stubborn.

I am happy you are able to drive around in your Fiat and hope that Chavez gives you all the gasoline you need for coining a term.

In leftist-speak:

"compromise" means you agree with us.

It also means that when Obama proposes a budget and all vote against it, it's still blamed on Republicans.

When Bush acted it was high treason; when Obama acts it's OMG, he's brilliant; I have tingles going up my leg.

I really would like RichieLion to defend his statement of;"When Bush acted it was high treason" with some examples.

Could he be thinking of lying about WMDs in order to involve the US with an illegal war with Iraq? Well, those lies did cost the US trillions of dollars and wasted over 4,400 American lives.

Invading Iraq really does not compare with the newly signed DREAM Act by an Executive Order, in my opinion.

What are some examples of the "high treason" that liberals tie to Bush?

Originally Posted by buggyone

I really would like RichieLion to defend his statement of;"When Bush acted it was high treason" with some examples.

Could he be thinking of lying about WMDs in order to involve the US with an illegal war with Iraq? Well, those lies did cost the US trillions of dollars and wasted over 4,400 American lives.

Invading Iraq really does not compare with the newly signed DREAM Act by an Executive Order, in my opinion.

What are some examples of the "high treason" that liberals tie to Bush?

From July 2008..

"Barack Obama told House Democrats on Tuesday that as president he would order his attorney general to scour White House executive orders and expunge any that "trample on liberty," several lawmakers said."

From November 2001...

"WASHINGTON - One historian calls it a ``disaster for history,'' but the White House insists a new executive order issued by President Bush balances the public's right to see the records of past presidents with a need to protect national security.

Advocates for the release of government documents say the executive order violates the spirit of the 1978 Presidential Records Act and will usher in a new era of secrecy for papers left behind by America's chief executives. "

From July 2007 (concerning interragation of prisoners)

"Rights activists criticized Bush's order for failing to spell out which techniques are now approved or prohibited. It said instead that CIA interrogators cannot undertake prohibited acts such as torture and murder, and it barred religious denigration and humiliating or degrading treatment "so serious that any reasonable person, considering the circumstances, would deem" it "beyond the bounds of human decency." Detainees, it said, must be provided with "the basic necessities of life," including adequate food and water, clothing, essential medical care, and "protection from extremes of heat and cold."

From Jan 2007 (regarding rules and policy to govern over public health and safety)

"Consumer, labor and environmental groups denounced the executive order, saying it gave too much control to the White House and would hinder agencies’ efforts to protect the public."

From July 2007...

"It would seem that George Bush has found a way to “legally” put an end to any criticism of his war in Iraq. The new Executive Order expands his powers on earlier ones and at first glance appears to be designed to stop the funding of terrorists. However, like any legal document, it is wise to read the “small print” before accepting it."

These are a few...any more, just ask !!!

American Chronicle | New Executive Order from Bush could make Iraq war criticism illegal!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/wa...pagewanted=all

Bush Approves New CIA Methods

Critics Blast Bush Order on Papers

Obama Would Order Review Of Bush's Executive Orders

Good job RAGS...and add this to the list...

"As he eyes re-election, President Obama is increasingly flexing his executive muscle to outflank congressional Republicans, even though he railed against such expansive uses of presidential power as a candidate in 2008.

Over the past week alone, Obama pushed through the appointment of a consumer-protection agency head opposed by Senate Republicans, unveiled a plan to recast the U.S. military and slash defense spending and issued new rules allowing some illegal immigrants to remain in the country while they apply for legal status. Obama not only acted without congressional approval, but, in many cases, despite strenuous congressional opposition. "

Obama flexing same powers he once criticized | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Not exactly the same things but another item he was criticizing folks for and demeaning them and now strides right into the same things...he is and always has been a hypocrite of the highest order !!!

Originally Posted by Bucco

Good job RAGS...and add this to the list...

"As he eyes re-election, President Obama is increasingly flexing his executive muscle to outflank congressional Republicans, even though he railed against such expansive uses of presidential power as a candidate in 2008.

Over the past week alone, Obama pushed through the appointment of a consumer-protection agency head opposed by Senate Republicans, unveiled a plan to recast the U.S. military and slash defense spending and issued new rules allowing some illegal immigrants to remain in the country while they apply for legal status. Obama not only acted without congressional approval, but, in many cases, despite strenuous congressional opposition. "

Obama flexing same powers he once criticized | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Not exactly the same things but another item he was criticizing folks for and demeaning them and now strides right into the same things...he is and always has been a hypocrite of the highest order !!!

President Obama recess-appointed Richard Cordray to be CFPB Chief on January 4, 2012, not last week as reported above. Immediately following the appointment, Speaker John Boehner threatened to file a lawsuit. Still waiting for that lawsuit to be filed almost six month later.


Obama Bucks GOP, Nominates CFPB Chief | The Nation

Thanks Rags and Bucco for clearing up things that Buggy clearly has expunged from his memory.

I was being treated to a fine Father's Day outing and was not available earlier to comment, and find I don't need to with such competent researchers as you guys here.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Thanks Rags and Bucco for clearing up things that Buggy clearly has expunged from his memory.

I was being treated to a fine Father's Day outing and was not available earlier to comment, and find I don't need to with such competent researchers as you guys here.

I saw nothing that "liberals" were saying that Bush was guilty of high treason.

Enjoy driving your new Fiat.

Please do not direct comments at another user.

Finally, at noon today (Thursday), we should finally hear what Mitt Romney would do about illegal immigration when he speaks to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials in Orlando. Since President Obama's announcement last Friday, Romney has sucessfully ducked the question.

ducking a question should not be a problem as we have been conditioned by it in the normal course of the current administration for the last 4 years.

Romney being a novice politician by comparison may even incorporate a little tell them what they want to hear which we have also bee exposed to for the last 4 years.

So in essence there isn't anything Romney can say or not say that will be unacceptable using the Obama administration and partisan measuring stick.

The approach certainly hasn't affected the Obama supporters to date.

btk

Originally Posted by janmcn

Finally, at noon today (Thursday), we should finally hear what Mitt Romney would do about illegal immigration when he speaks to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials in Orlando. Since President Obama's announcement last Friday, Romney has sucessfully ducked the question.

i'd rather hear what the supreme court is going to say about obamacare!

i doubt the mittster will say much more than obama did not do enough to solve the larger immigration problem for all the years he has been in office.

it seems like while all the dems are puffing about the great scoop their leader has delivered...the back door amnesty....there remains the much larger issue of what to do about illegal immigration in general.

Obama's latest "splinter" is that supposed to constitute problem solved?

There is very much more to be said to the latinos including the need to stop illegal immigration as it continues today. There are those in that group that will understand and accept there is a way to get into this country and it is the legal method that all other immigrants must and do under take.

The question is like are you still beating your wife....either answer creates a problem.

So just ask a latino if they think we should continue ILLEGAL immigration when there is a worry free process undergone by millions before them.

So Romney has much that is right to talk to them that most that are affected by Obama's "splinter" will know and understand and agree with.

How can ANYBODY argue against the merits of the existing laws against ILLEGAL immigration?

btk

I do not think some really "get it" when they are saying all illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported. Even Newt Gingrich had a fair idea when he suggested that "church going illegals who have been in the USA for 25 years" should be left alone. Sort of ridiculous to give qualifications like that but his heart was in the right place.

Can you imagine the chaos that would take place if all the illegals were arrested over a short time period? What about the children who know nothing of their foreign language or heritage? What about the children who are American citizens because of birth?

Sure, you can talk of illegals being arrested and deported but it is not feasible to do for so many different reasons.

President Obama will be speaking to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials at 1:50pm today (Friday) in Orlando. It will be interesting to see what reception he gets compared to Mitt Romney's tepid welcome yesterday.

It's been reported that Senator Marco Rubio got a slightly more enthusiatic reception than Romney did yesterday, but still over all tepid welcome.

Governor Rick Scott, Jeb Bush and Rubio all are publicly breaking with Romney on issues, it was reported, possibly because they expect him to lose in Nov.