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Old 02-12-2016, 01:13 AM
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Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:28 AM
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Do not fund PP:
Louisiana
Arkansas
Alabama
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
There are 20 comprehensive care units for every planned parenthood in America
There are over 13,540 clinics providing comprehensive care for women.

Next time, do your own work. Google is your friend. If you can't use google, then ask someone that has a brain.
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:37 AM
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Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag
Were those actors that I saw in the videos? Are you going to attempt to deceive yourself and say those were fabricated videos. You can edit videos, but that doesn't mean they aren't true, just not admissible in court. So, act conveniently ignorant, but the fact is that PP is selling the tissue, even if they try to convince you that they are not. I have ordered stuff on-line that all you had to do is pay shipping and handling fees. The item was free but the shipping and handling was three times the actual cost. PP is playing the same scam once they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. I bet if someone got a warrant to check their bank accounts, they would find some large deposits in personal accounts. You can play naive, but the ignorant are only deemed stupid once they have been given the information and deny the facts.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:27 AM
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Do not fund PP:
Louisiana
Arkansas
Alabama
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
There are 20 comprehensive care units for every planned parenthood in America
There are over 13,540 clinics providing comprehensive care for women.

Next time, do your own work. Google is your friend. If you can't use google, then ask someone that has a brain.
I did google it and found this which debunks your claim but I won't insult your intelligence.

Have a great day!
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:54 AM
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I did google it and found this which debunks your claim but I won't insult your intelligence.

Have a great day!
NO, you just attempt to debunk with no facts to back you up. You are a little kid that says "nuh uhh, you're wrong" with no argument to sustain your claim. You asked for facts so I gave you facts. You, on the other hand are too lazy to even use Google. So, walk away instead of being immature about it. Denial is a sign mental illness.

The fact stands that there ARE plenty of institutions available besides PP that provide the same service. And they don't need to break the law to provide the service.

I would say "have a great day" but I know that you will just go away and pout.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:56 AM
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Republican controlled states have been investigating the allegations that PP has been SELLING body parts here are the results of these investigations.

No State Has Found Proof of Fetal-Tissue Sales -- NYMag
Oh no!!!

Not the old legal stance that since there is no proof there are no sales.
Said differently it is not illegal or against the law until you get caught.

The videos, like them or not, call them whatever you want are incriminating.
The people in them are ranking officials caught on camera.

The only reason this organization is not being pursued by the federal government is that it is a federally funded operation. And there is too much democratic political capital, the black vote and political incrimination....Obama, Lynch, et al.

No different that the democratic political hide weenie game with Clinton's felonious activities.

The wagons are in fact circled and the lemmings joined hands around the BS circle.
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:09 AM
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Oh no!!!

Not the old legal stance that since there is no proof there are no sales.
Said differently it is not illegal or against the law until you get caught.

The videos, like them or not, call them whatever you want are incriminating.
The people in them are ranking officials caught on camera.

The only reason this organization is not being pursued by the federal government is that it is a federally funded operation. And there is too much democratic political capital, the black vote and political incrimination....Obama, Lynch, et al.

No different that the democratic political hide weenie game with Clinton's felonious activities.

The wagons are in fact circled and the lemmings joined hands around the BS circle.
Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:35 AM
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Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.
What you and too many others are either missing or intentionally ignoring is even though the videos were "highly edited" the content was real PP executives, making real statements about what they were doing or contemplating. The editing was not stated to be either adding or changing or creating dialogue....or using non PP people to make a point.

Yes you and the government are using the letter of the law...either use it, or abuse it or hide behind it to provide cover. In the case of these videos the legal comment "highly edited" is being used to make it sound as though the videos are fake....they are not.

Go ahead and hide and play how we are being unreasonable.
Were the PP executives in fact in the videos? Yes!
Did they say what was shown in the videos? Yes!
Were the videos edited? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, yes!
Does the editing change what was stated by the PP executives? NO!

For some, the blindly follow the party support they will thrive upon and live within the false doubt that has been legally created with those magical legal words "highly edited". And completely, conveniently ignoring the fact that the PP did what was filmed. And are doing what they said in the videos.

PP = fetal/baby murdering, abortion convenient birth control, butcher shop.
(I will give you they have not been caught [yet] selling).
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:24 AM
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Ok I'm done....the right wing spin machine and love of conspiracy theories makes any kind of reasonable discussion impossible.

You believe the videos even though they where highly edited, the filmmakers are under indictment and a number a state investigations have found nothing.

You want Planned Parenthood shut down for any reason regardless of the actual facts.

Anymore discussion would be like hitting my head against a brick wall and I am smarter than that.
Sure and OJ was innocent. If the glove does not fit...and all that.

Fact is that we don't need PP, period. And we especially don't need to fund it if they are going to make operating expenses by selling baby parts.
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:28 AM
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What you and too many others are either missing or intentionally ignoring is even though the videos were "highly edited" the content was real PP executives, making real statements about what they were doing or contemplating. The editing was not stated to be either adding or changing or creating dialogue....or using non PP people to make a point.

Yes you and the government are using the letter of the law...either use it, or abuse it or hide behind it to provide cover. In the case of these videos the legal comment "highly edited" is being used to make it sound as though the videos are fake....they are not.

Go ahead and hide and play how we are being unreasonable.
Were the PP executives in fact in the videos? Yes!
Did they say what was shown in the videos? Yes!
Were the videos edited? I will give you the benefit of the doubt, yes!
Does the editing change what was stated by the PP executives? NO!

For some, the blindly follow the party support they will thrive upon and live within the false doubt that has been legally created with those magical legal words "highly edited". And completely, conveniently ignoring the fact that the PP did what was filmed. And are doing what they said in the videos.

PP = fetal/baby murdering, abortion convenient birth control, butcher shop.
(I will give you they have not been caught [yet] selling).
What you are ignoring is that PP provides low cost health services to women which is NOT, as your side contends, available from other providers.

Planned Parenthood provides legal abortion services for women, these services have been under attack for many years by the right wing including the killing of doctors. The Hyde amendment insures that NO tax dollars can be used for abortions....but your side claims that PP is using tax dollars without any evidence to support that claim. At least you sorta admit that PP is NOT selling the body parts.

You won't be satisfied until PP is shutdown regardless of the facts. The fact remains that women need healthcare options how will the right wing insure that happens?
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:30 AM
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Sure and OJ was innocent. If the glove does not fit...and all that.

Fact is that we don't need PP, period. And we especially don't need to fund it if they are going to make operating expenses by selling baby parts.
Where do you get your PAP smears done?

PP does not sell baby parts...
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:47 AM
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Where do you get your PAP smears done?

PP does not sell baby parts...
Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:30 AM
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Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?
Don't know are they?
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:31 AM
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Are PAP smears not covered by Obama Care?
Where do you get yours done?
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:35 AM
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Where do you get yours done?
Where do you get yours done?
 

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