Originally Posted by cologal

Show me one clip of a Democratic operative stomping on a women's head....just one.

Show me one clip of a Democratic candidate security team arresting and cuffing a reporter from a local paper....just one.

My husband wants me to go out to eat lunch with him. I'll post more when I get back. This took about 30 seconds to find...


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Originally Posted by RichieLion

Just to counter your misdirection I offer a video and story of a MoveOn Republic activist choking a Tea Party member at a rally. The difference is he wasn't in a threatening mode but only exercising his free speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k23zO...layer_embedded

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/move...arizona-rally/

Who isn't in a threatening mode....the Tea Party guy or the Republic guy?

As we have discussed free speech is free speech so the women, both the one at the Rand Paul event and the one at Joe Millers event were entitled to free speech. No one, for any reason should be physically attacked. That being said many people, including in the most recent past seem to get arrested at Repub events. Happenned big time in Denver about 6 years ago.

Originally Posted by cologal

Who isn't in a threatening mode....the Tea Party guy or the Republic guy?

As we have discussed free speech is free speech so the women, both the one at the Rand Paul event and the one at Joe Millers event were entitled to free speech. No one, for any reason should be physically attacked. That being said many people, including in the most recent past seem to get arrested at Repub events. Happenned big time in Denver about 6 years ago.

I meant to write MoveOn "Republicorp" guy. This is a MoveOn.org group trying to demonstrate the ties of Republicans to big business. (oooohh, evil big business, oooohhhh)

The Repubicorp activist was choking and attacking the Tea Party member.

That is a liberal physically attacking conservatives, just like you say you wanted to see.

I could also post videos of liberals attacking conservatives with pies at college speaking events.

I could also post videos of liberals attacking at rallies and protests at events like the WTO conferences.

Except for that one video of a liberal activist being subdued, a little too harshly, as she rushed a political candidate in order to effect a photo op, you'd be hard pressed to find examples of similar behavior by conservative groups.

Basically, conservatives are a more mature and rational bunch.

On the other hand, liberals are the "anything goes' "throw caution to the wind" types who are more apt to cause public discourse and mayhem. They are also prone to avoid scheduled bathing.( haha., just a little hippie humor)

Originally Posted by dklassen

WOW, really?

Libearls truly are sideways about this Tuesday.

It would be spelled Liberals....but once again you are wrong. It was violence towards a women and I am no lefty no matter how many time you say it.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

My husband wants me to go out to eat lunch with him. I'll post more when I get back. This took about 30 seconds to find...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5J22JPNnU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsf-X...layer_embedded

With all due respect....you can't really compare two guys standing outside a polling place with a woman being thrown to the ground and her head stomped on.

And anything shown on Fox Noise is not to be believed. Just is any thing on the Huffington to you guys.

Originally Posted by cologal

It would be spelled Liberals....but once again you are wrong. It was violence towards a women and I am no lefty no matter how many time you say it.

Cologal, get real!!; your simplistic and absurd Fox News comment, for one, and your Eleanor Roosevelt avatar, for two, and your knee jerk defense come hell or high water for all things liberal........"and you're not a lefty"?

If a woman is perceived to be a threat do you really think that she should not be stopped, just because she's a woman? I'm going to pray that if a woman comes running toward you yelling, with an interminable object in her hand, that someone stops her. Why?; because you're a human being, not because you're a woman.

Originally Posted by cologal

With all due respect....you can't really compare two guys standing outside a polling place with a woman being thrown to the ground and her head stomped on.

And anything shown on Fox Noise is not to be believed. Just is any thing on the Huffington to you guys.

in case you didn't notice that it was all over the news that the woman who ended up on the ground happens to be a professional agitator of international status. She knew exactly what she was doing. I bet she considered getting thrown on the ground a great success. Cologal I guess will just have to wait until Tuesday so that you can learn that the whole country is crazy except for your little group of course.

Yoda

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Cologal, get real!!; your simplistic and absurd Fox News comment, for one, and your Eleanor Roosevelt avatar, for two, and your knee jerk defense come hell or high water for all things liberal........"and you're not a lefty"?

If a woman is perceived to be a threat do you really think that she should not be stopped, just because she's a woman? I'm going to pray that if a woman comes running toward you yelling, with an interminable object in her hand, that someone stops her. Why?; because you're a human being, not because you're a woman.

Richie....just because I support the Democratic party does not a lefty make me. To me that is what is wrong with politics today....it has become to black and white. Litmus and purity tests. Fox News may have started out as a news organization but now it is a wing of the Republican party. You can argue that eastern liberals run the mainstream media but Fox News just gave a huge donation to the Republican party.

I will agree that I am left of you but very right of left wing of the Democratic party. Do I vote for Republicans....in some cases yes. Can I vote for Ken Buck in Colorado...Hell NO! Do I want to vote for Bennett...No in fact I voted for the other guy in the primary. Will I vote for Bennett, the ballot is on my dining room table unopened.

Now I have had people, on this site, tell me they don't believe anything from the Huffington post. I distrust anything from Fox ....(Beck, Hannity and Ingram esp)

I respect strong women who make a difference in the world. I admire Eleanor Roosevelt for what she did to foster civil rights. Her simple act of flying in a plane piloted by a Tuskegee airman was courageous.

How can you support violence against anyone....what made that women a threat this time as opposed to the previous times she had done the same thing? Was she the only one going toward Rand Paul? The amount of physical force was uncalled for....the head stomp a case in point.

I react to the label because conservatives use it to brand me as something bad or evil which I am not.

Why don't we talk immigration......

Originally Posted by Yoda

in case you didn't notice that it was all over the news that the woman who ended up on the ground happens to be a professional agitator of international status. She knew exactly what she was doing. I bet she considered getting thrown on the ground a great success. Cologal I guess will just have to wait until Tuesday so that you can learn that the whole country is crazy except for your little group of course.

Yoda

I am going to take a page from BK....please provide the link with the proof that is woman is professional agitator of international status.


And then after that why in your mind that makes it ok for her to be treated with that level of physical violence.

And as for Tuesday....you win some you lose some. I don't really have a dog in this hunt.

cologal, I remember you telling about protesting against the war in at an event in Colorado. I remember you telling how people were getting arrested and you became fearful and left because you were afraid of the violence you witnessed.

My point with the videos of the new black panthers holding clubs at polling places is the same as yours with your example of fear at the protest rally. Now I wasn't there with you in Colorado. But your story stuck with me and I sympathized with you. You were sticking up for something and I respect that.

Even though a bomb doesn't go off doesn't mean it doesn't strike fear.

What happened in Kentucky was wrong on BOTH sides. The overzealous guy was wrong when he gave an extra shove on the woman's shoulder and she was wrong to be there in a disguise trying to shove a sign in the car window.

What happened in Philadelphia was wrong on many accounts. The other videos of examples of violence were true and the actions were wrong.

Originally Posted by cologal

Richie....just because I support the Democratic party does not a lefty make me. To me that is what is wrong with politics today....it has become to black and white. Litmus and purity tests. Fox News may have started out as a news organization but now it is a wing of the Republican party. You can argue that eastern liberals run the mainstream media but Fox News just gave a huge donation to the Republican party.

I will agree that I am left of you but very right of left wing of the Democratic party. Do I vote for Republicans....in some cases yes. Can I vote for Ken Buck in Colorado...Hell NO! Do I want to vote for Bennett...No in fact I voted for the other guy in the primary. Will I vote for Bennett, the ballot is on my dining room table unopened.

Now I have had people, on this site, tell me they don't believe anything from the Huffington post. I distrust anything from Fox ....(Beck, Hannity and Ingram esp)

I respect strong women who make a difference in the world. I admire Eleanor Roosevelt for what she did to foster civil rights. Her simple act of flying in a plane piloted by a Tuskegee airman was courageous.

How can you support violence against anyone....what made that women a threat this time as opposed to the previous times she had done the same thing? Was she the only one going toward Rand Paul? The amount of physical force was uncalled for....the head stomp a case in point.

I react to the label because conservatives use it to brand me as something bad or evil which I am not.

Why don't we talk immigration......

Do you respect Sarah Palin?

Originally Posted by Ajack

Do you respect Sarah Palin?

Are you asking me if I respect Sarah Palin? My question would be on what level?

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

cologal, I remember you telling about protesting against the war in at an event in Colorado. I remember you telling how people were getting arrested and you became fearful and left because you were afraid of the violence you witnessed.

My point with the videos of the new black panthers holding clubs at polling places is the same as yours with your example of fear at the protest rally. Now I wasn't there with you in Colorado. But your story stuck with me and I sympathized with you. You were sticking up for something and I respect that.

Even though a bomb doesn't go off doesn't mean it doesn't strike fear.

What happened in Kentucky was wrong on BOTH sides. The overzealous guy was wrong when he gave an extra shove on the woman's shoulder and she was wrong to be there in a disguise trying to shove a sign in the car window.

What happened in Philadelphia was wrong on many accounts. The other videos of examples of violence were true and the actions were wrong.

BK....I really don't think the Black Panther party represents in any way the
Democratic party. They represent the Black Panther party.

I'm not exactly sure what the women was up to, as it has been reported that she has done the same thing before. I'm not a fan of Move On.Org just a little bit to liberal for me. But I could agree that perhaps things got out of hand on both sides. However, I am always against any type of physical violence.

cologal, I realize that the new black panther party doesn't represent the Democratic Party in the sense you said.

But let me ask this. Philadelphia police officers arrived on the scene of the polling place after calls from residents of voter intimidation. The black panthers were told they could not stand at the door to a polling place holding a weapon. Two of the members left.

One of the nbpp members by the name of Jerry Jackson was allowed to stay because he had official papers showing he was an official poll watcher. The police officers told him he had to relinquish his weapon, but he could stay within legal distance of the entrance to the polling place.

Which party do you suppose issued Mr. Jackson his poll watch papers?


http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/DOJmemo_12...gainstNBPP.pdf