Originally Posted by Guest

I just want to support your comment on hearing the reference to Fox and spouting and how it was used. It makes me weary to be honest and it NEVER EVER ceases

I'm the one who made the spout comment.....it was NOT aimed at Fox but rather the spoutee. My point is made by the facts regarding two high profile school shootings in Colorado. Columbine and Aurora both those schools had armed guards!!!

Then there was the shooting of the young father in the movie house in Wesley Chapel, Florida. The shooter in that case was a retired police captain. He said he was afraid for his life after getting a handful of popcorn thrown at him.

Just think if the young father also had a pistol on him and obviously that is what you advocate. There could have been a real shoot out at the movie house with bullets spraying the rest of the customers - over a handful of popcorn.

It was bound to happen.

ONE sick, drugged up, homicidal devil--well-known by the courts--is clearly a racist, and boobs here use that fact to stereotype and brand the entire GOP and the entire FNC viewership as "racists".

Why even try to talk sense to such a pile of rocks.

Haven't looked in here for two months because of such bigotry and hatred from those who call themselves "tolerant" and "open-minded" liberals, and so now I'm outa here again.

What a waste.

Originally Posted by Guest

It was bound to happen.

ONE sick, drugged up, homicidal devil--well-known by the courts--is clearly a racist, and boobs here use that fact to stereotype and brand the entire GOP and the entire FNC viewership as "racists".

Why even try to talk sense to such a pile of rocks.

Haven't looked in here for two months because of such bigotry and hatred from those who call themselves "tolerant" and "open-minded" liberals, and so now I'm outa here again.

What a waste.

As has beven suggested in the past...do not engage...they are a disgrace to the party they pretend to support.

Originally Posted by Guest

As has beven suggested in the past...do not engage...they are a disgrace to the party they pretend to support.

Oh good first we have a mental illness and now we are a disgrace.....

Seriously!!!

You two are a shinning example Ben Carson made recently and I posted a link to.

Originally Posted by Guest

Oh good first we have a mental illness and now we are a disgrace.....

Seriously!!!

You two are a shinning example Ben Carson made recently and I posted a link to.

The use of the word "WE" is incorrect.

It is YOU.

Liberals and Democrats are NOT represented by your posting. My bet is that there is embarrassment at what you post.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am about to make an observation which is factual, but which I also know will cause some anti-gun liberals to potentially overreact. Nonetheless, believeing in free speech here goes ...

IF (i.e. as in hypothetically) had one of the victims in the Church shooting had a concealed carry weapon, and presumably trained in its use, the racist who shot nine people WOULD have been most likely killed before he shot all nine victims. The news reports said he reloaded several times ...!! One reason none of them were carrying is that is currently against the law in SC (ie carrying in a church) and the SC State Rep / Pastor who was shot supported the ban.

From what I can tell about mass shootings, not even the craziest shooter has targeted a place where he knows there are armed men (eg police station) so in general they go to places where they KNOW no one will be armed to resist ...ie schools, churches etc.

Now, I'm just looking for reasonable and coherent comments ... not ideological rants. Does anyone disagree with the content of what I just said? Is it not common sense?

For the record, I mean no disrespect to the nine dead victims. But, more of them would be alive today if one of them had been carrying is all I'm saying.

After a mass shooting by some crazy, it always boils down to the same thing. If only all the victims had guns, they would have turned the tables and only the crazy shooter would be dead.
Blame the victims for not being armed? Even Mike Huckabee said that he supports having the congregations being armed and trained in how to kill intruders.
The answer is not too many guns out there BUT NOT ENOUGH guns in the hands of citizens!

I know this one guy in The Villages who answers a knock at the front door with a drawn pistol held behind him - just in case. Another one is a 93 year old man in a wheelchair with a pistol in the sidepocket. He is legally blind, by the way.

Don't forget the Villager on the motorcycle who shot inside an occupied car because they honked at him.

Nope, not enough guns for citizens.

Originally Posted by Guest

I know this one guy in The Villages who answers a knock at the front door with a drawn pistol held behind him - just in case. Another one is a 93 year old man in a wheelchair with a pistol in the sidepocket. He is legally blind, by the way.

Don't forget the Villager on the motorcycle who shot inside an occupied car because they honked at him.

Nope, not enough guns for citizens.

Isolated stories all and not at all representative of the other 99% responsible gun owners.

Originally Posted by Guest

The use of the word "WE" is incorrect.

It is YOU.

Liberals and Democrats are NOT represented by your posting. My bet is that there is embarrassment at what you post.

And now a personal attack.....

Originally Posted by Guest

And now a personal attack.....

Yes, I am afraid it is.

I know many, many, many democrats. I discuss politics with a very large percentage of them.

You,in no way, represent that party, their beliefs or anything close.

It is personal because you included my many liberal, democratic friends in a post that was not about them, but about you.

Liberals and Democrats I socialize with want most of the exact same things that I, and my Republican friends want. We differ ONLY how to get where we all think this country needs to go.

They, on both sides, are tired of folks who are extreme in both sides, and who will turn things into. red/blue contest at every turn.

YOU do not represent anything but....well, not even sure what you represent, but don't even try to wave a flag you have no right to.

Originally Posted by Guest

Yes, I am afraid it is.

I know many, many, many democrats. I discuss politics with a very large percentage of them.

You,in no way, represent that party, their beliefs or anything close.

It is personal because you included my many liberal, democratic friends in a post that was not about them, but about you.

Liberals and Democrats I socialize with want most of the exact same things that I, and my Republican friends want. We differ ONLY how to get where we all think this country needs to go.

They, on both sides, are tired of folks who are extreme in both sides, and who will turn things into. red/blue contest at every turn.

YOU do not represent anything but....well, not even sure what you represent, but don't even try to wave a flag you have no right to.

I went to my first Democratic party meeting in 1961 when I was 10 years. My father took me as he was a committee man. I was a poll watcher in NYC for the McGovern campaign. I wore a Hillary sent me t-shirt to the Obama election party because I made calls for his campaign every Sunday over the campaign and I took election day off to work at the Democratic Headquarters..... You don't know me.

Originally Posted by Guest

I went to my first Democratic party meeting in 1961 when I was 10 years. My father took me as he was a committee man. I was a poll watcher in NYC for the McGovern campaign. I wore a Hillary sent me t-shirt to the Obama election party because I made calls for his campaign every Sunday over the campaign and I took election day off to work at the Democratic Headquarters..... You don't know me.

I may have met your father !

I became a Democratic committee in late 1961 in Pennsylvania. Held state office in the Democratic Party. Met and spent some time (cup of coffee) with MLK in Philadelphia.

I only know that your posts are NOT anything the party greens with or manifests.

Originally Posted by Guest

It was bound to happen.

ONE sick, drugged up, homicidal devil--well-known by the courts--is clearly a racist, and boobs here use that fact to stereotype and brand the entire GOP and the entire FNC viewership as "racists".

Why even try to talk sense to such a pile of rocks.

Haven't looked in here for two months because of such bigotry and hatred from those who call themselves "tolerant" and "open-minded" liberals, and so now I'm outa here again.

What a waste.

You seem to not understand at all what the intent of this thread is. There is no attempt to label the GOP nor Fox as racist. The attempt, which clearly failed to reach into your understanding, is to point out the inability of Fox nor GOP leaders to conceive that the motivation of this act was racism. It had to be something else, like anti-Christianity, or lack of enough guns, or you and governor Perry want to blame drugs. Haley can't understand the motivation, Bush can't either, nor Paul, nor Rubio. And the Fox news team did all it could not to blame racism as long as it could. Yet here we are with Roof's own words, his own website, and that he chose to leave a witness to explain in no uncertain terms that this was an act to kill black people, to start a race war if possible. And the leadership on the right is unable to say the simple words, no modifiers, no qualifiers, This was Racism. Good old Stars and Bars racism.

Originally Posted by Guest

I may have met your father !

I became a Democratic committee in late 1961 in Pennsylvania. Held state office in the Democratic Party. Met and spent some time (cup of coffee) with MLK in Philadelphia.

I only know that your posts are NOT anything the party greens with or manifests.

Northern New Jersey.... think of me as center left.