The killer is clearly racist, a twisted minded wacko. He does not represent all racists!
Racism does exist in America. The killer in no way represents that racism. He is an isolated example.

The incident or the individual does define racism in America........only an isolated twisted, druggie.

The generalization based on an isolated individual is not applicable....however that is too often how these incidents are portrayed only to suit an agenda.

The incident or the individual DOES NOT define racism........correction to the above post.

Originally Posted by Guest

Northern New Jersey.... think of me as center left.

You are not even close to center

To begin a thread based on what people do not say, and then to project that to make some confused political comment is speaking to the EXTREME LEFT. Fact is, your working theory here is almost straight out of the two farther left websites, which as I recall may be the ONLY sites trying to make your point.

You speak as if ANYONE does not understand the racism except you. Everyone gets that, But, you are INSISTING to make this political. It is not quite that simple. Nothing is as simple as you make it. You think nothing whatsoever about condemning so many people with your allegations pointers at large numbers of people, and NEVER understanding that, at times, your far left liberal site are wrong and tell fibs, either by commission or omission.

Apparent Manifesto of Charleston Killer Dylann Roof Surfaces


The alleged manifesto of Dylann Roof was discovered online today.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are not even close to center

To begin a thread based on what people do not say, and then to project that to make some confused political comment is speaking to the EXTREME LEFT. Fact is, your working theory here is almost straight out of the two farther left websites, which as I recall may be the ONLY sites trying to make your point.

You speak as if ANYONE does not understand the racism except you. Everyone gets that, But, you are INSISTING to make this political. It is not quite that simple. Nothing is as simple as you make it. You think nothing whatsoever about condemning so many people with your allegations pointers at large numbers of people, and NEVER understanding that, at times, your far left liberal site are wrong and tell fibs, either by commission or omission.

I am sorry but I don't know what you are talking about.... what far left websites are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Guest

Apparent Manifesto of Charleston Killer Dylann Roof Surfaces


The alleged manifesto of Dylann Roof was discovered online today.

Authorities investigate whether racist manifesto was written by alleged S.C. gunman - The Washington Post


Authorities are working today to investigate whether the racist manifesto was written by South Carolina gunman Dylann Roof.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am sorry but I don't know what you are talking about.... what far left websites are you talking about?

THINKPROGRESS and DAILYBEAST right off the top of my head. Your presentation pretty much mirrored them, especially Beast. Those are extreme left and not center as you profess.

I read them both which is how I can recognize them on here. I honestly read a lot, and they remind me why I left the Democratic Party and its hypocrisy.

Which reminds me, as a true Democrat, place your Democratic beliefs next to your candidate and tell me how they stack up. She has a ton of "word smithing" to do.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are not even close to center

To begin a thread based on what people do not say, and then to project that to make some confused political comment is speaking to the EXTREME LEFT. Fact is, your working theory here is almost straight out of the two farther left websites, which as I recall may be the ONLY sites trying to make your point.

You speak as if ANYONE does not understand the racism except you. Everyone gets that, But, you are INSISTING to make this political. It is not quite that simple. Nothing is as simple as you make it. You think nothing whatsoever about condemning so many people with your allegations pointers at large numbers of people, and NEVER understanding that, at times, your far left liberal site are wrong and tell fibs, either by commission or omission.

I posted links from MSNBC reporting on Ben Carson with whom this time I agree..
And then the New York Times.

It seems all you want to do is attack me personally something I have refrained from doing....

Originally Posted by Guest

I posted links from MSNBC reporting on Ben Carson with whom this time I agree..
And then the New York Times.

It seems all you want to do is attack me personally something I have refrained from doing....

I must leave anyway...Fathers day guests have arrived but wanted to say this...

You always feel personally attacked and dismiss what you say, or have said as if it never occurred. When you attack, expect people to come back at you.

But most of all.....everything in this world is NOT a political divide. You seem to want to pigeon hole all of us, tag us with a label. I guess that makes it easy for you, but it will cause folks to get into your face, but you never seem to recall what you said to prompt it.

I, and others take great offense to you generalizations about people. Life is not that simple, and as I look at my lovely daughter, I am reminded how she once said one of the biggest lessons I taught her was, that things are not as simple as you think, so listen.

And I pass that to you. Listen and learn before you condemn people or groups of people, because over time I have been subject to a few of those, and not one was correct.

Originally Posted by Guest

I must leave anyway...Fathers day guests have arrived but wanted to say this...

You always feel personally attacked and dismiss what you say, or have said as if it never occurred. When you attack, expect people to come back at you.

But most of all.....everything in this world is NOT a political divide. You seem to want to pigeon hole all of us, tag us with a label. I guess that makes it easy for you, but it will cause folks to get into your face, but you never seem to recall what you said to prompt it.

I, and others take great offense to you generalizations about people. Life is not that simple, and as I look at my lovely daughter, I am reminded how she once said one of the biggest lessons I taught her was, that things are not as simple as you think, so listen.

And I pass that to you. Listen and learn before you condemn people or groups of people, because over time I have been subject to a few of those, and not one was correct.

Have fun.....

Thank God life in the Villages isn't as tumultuous as the essence of these posts. Somewhere out there exists reality and truth. May we keep seeking it.

Originally Posted by Guest

The killer is clearly racist, a twisted minded wacko. He does not represent all racists!
Racism does exist in America. The killer in no way represents that racism. He is an isolated example.

The incident or the individual does define racism in America........only an isolated twisted, druggie.

The generalization based on an isolated individual is not applicable....however that is too often how these incidents are portrayed only to suit an agenda.

It almost sounds as though you are defending racists in saying that Roof does not represent all racists. Please tell me that I am misunderstanding your post.

The killer represents mental illness and what happens when left unchecked.

Originally Posted by Guest

THINKPROGRESS and DAILYBEAST right off the top of my head. Your presentation pretty much mirrored them, especially Beast. Those are extreme left and not center as you profess.

I read them both which is how I can recognize them on here. I honestly read a lot, and they remind me why I left the Democratic Party and its hypocrisy.

Which reminds me, as a true Democrat, place your Democratic beliefs next to your candidate and tell me how they stack up. She has a ton of "word smithing" to do.

Never been to ThinkProgress nor Daily Beast nor Blue Nation Review, I did once visit Daily Kos.

If you are referring to Hillary... she was my candidate but her views on immigration our very left of my position. Took myself off her email list....told you center left!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

It almost sounds as though you are defending racists in saying that Roof does not represent all racists. Please tell me that I am misunderstanding your post.

You are definitely Misunderstanding!
Read it again without reaching a conclusion before finishing.