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Old 03-15-2016, 08:04 AM
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Mr. PBR has gone off the deep end with an array of illogical phrases and no substance at all. Once again, mr. PBR has embarassed himself with a post and shown that he is no longer relevant. It is sad to see how minds go downhill so quickly with advanced age in some people.
And you, little troll are throwing stones? Better move out of that glass shack, if you intend to throw stones, little buddy. If you don't agree, most adults will counter with their own opinion. Do you even have one?
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:11 AM
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Mr. PBR has gone off the deep end with an array of illogical phrases and no substance at all. Once again, mr. PBR has embarassed himself with a post and shown that he is no longer relevant. It is sad to see how minds go downhill so quickly with advanced age in some people.
Agree to disagree with his opinion. Why are you trying to hurt the man? Are you an adult who lives here? Or some 8th grader who doesn't realize yet that words have meaning.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:51 AM
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Mr. PBR has gone off the deep end with an array of illogical phrases and no substance at all. Once again, mr. PBR has embarassed himself with a post and shown that he is no longer relevant. It is sad to see how minds go downhill so quickly with advanced age in some people.
You are just another IRRELEVANT internet troll. Why don't you spread your Liberal hate somewhere else?
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:59 AM
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You are just another IRRELEVANT internet troll. Why don't you spread your Liberal hate somewhere else?
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:05 AM
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Obama and the socialist cabal have destroyed the middle class. If you want to see a resurgence of those in the middle then you need a capitalistic economy. There is nothing at all complicated about that.
The start of the downfall of the middle class started during the reagan years. He taught the companies how to destroy the unions with the air traffic controllers. The companies kept their unions, chamber of commerce ect., but the commoners lost all theirs. When the unions were strong this country had its best years, check it out.
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:42 PM
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What is hateful about not being forced to give your earned wealth away? What do liberals know about being Christian? Being Christian has nothing to do with a requirement of giving to charity. That is a result of being a Christian, an attribute, but not a requirement. Even Christ said "if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, but if you teach him to fish, he feeds himself for life." or something similar to that. Please don't suggest that you know something when you really don't understand it. You attempt to use what you perceive as a weakness to get under a conservative's skin.

The problem with liberals is that they believe that we are our brother's keepers. We are not. In America, you have the same right to excel as the next guy. We are not all equal but we are treated equal with equal rights. What you do with your right is your privilege, not an obligation. A wealthy person is not obligated to give his money away. In America, one should never be forced to give away his wealth so that the lazy or unfortunate can live a better lifestyle. That attitude is what caused the first settlers to our country to fail miserably, a result of trying to incorporate the Mayflower Compact ( a socialist mandate).

Our lower class lives as well as middle class in socialist countries. That is a fact. I have been to other countries, and lived in other countries and have seen how their middle class live.

To feel that one is entitled to what others earn, is pure idiocy. You have no right or entitlement to someone else's labor, investment or inheritance. To suggest that the wealthy owe someone else because they might be Christian, is just assuming. You assume that ALL conservatives are Christian. They may well be, but that doesn't obligate them. Everyone practices their faith in a different manner. It is not for you to criticize that faith. Maybe, since you feel that conservatives are all Christian, that is why conservatives feel that ALL liberals are atheists.
Dear Guest: The message from Bernie Sanders is anti christian because a) it ignores Christians beliefs that work is a blessing and b) because work allows a person to be self-sufficient. In that same vein Jesus taught us to love one another and to be charitable .

Bernie violates God' law when speaking about the 1% because he goes against God's commandment that thou shall not covet thy neighbors'goods

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Old 03-15-2016, 12:51 PM
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I understand that "I got mine now you get yours mentality" if you are in the lower 90%. I don't agree but I understand.

But why protect the 1% so heartedly? Why does Buffet and Gates give it all away while others in their bracket do all that they can to keep it? Where are their values? Why are they defended?

I read that Putin might be worth 3 times what Gates is worth. Is he also defended by the bottom 90% in his country? Is that just what all people do?

What did Gates and Buffet do that was so positive for mankind? I think they realized they were in the right place and the right time and want to feel good before they die about how they tried to make the world a better place with the wealth they earned or lucked into. Gates also said that if his kids have too much money it is more likely to ruin their life then improve it. I think that's true. After all, why are they are entitled to all that money?

Just some questions that doesn't really matter. I've heard all the hidden agenda Gates talk before so consider it said. I think he's a good man.
Dear Guest: What you ignore in your comments are the reality of economics. Gates and Buffet created wealth and along the way created jobs for those 90% you reference. I personally believe that actors and athletes are over paid but from an economic standpoint profits flow.

They are good at creating a demand and great at filling the demand they create. You have that same opportunity

Fairness is an elusive term.

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Old 03-15-2016, 01:10 PM
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Mr. PBR has gone off the deep end with an array of illogical phrases and no substance at all. Once again, mr. PBR has embarassed himself with a post and shown that he is no longer relevant. It is sad to see how minds go downhill so quickly with advanced age in some people.
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Your comments conveniently carry us away from the topic of our conversation. I don't much care what you think of me but I do object to your characterization of people of advanced age having cognitive disabilities. Its mean spirited.

However the comments directed at me are hilarious . Thanks for a good laugh I needed one . Perhaps you should start a thread and call it five easy lessons on how to be a troll. I'll offer step one to get you started. Step 1 "There is no sense being a troll unless you can act like one."

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Old 03-15-2016, 01:32 PM
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Dear Guest: The message from Bernie Sanders is anti christian because a) it ignores Christians beliefs that work is a blessing and b) because work allows a person to be self-sufficient. In that same vein Jesus taught us to love one another and to be charitable .

Bernie violates God' law when speaking about the 1% because he goes against God's commandment that thou shall not covet thy neighbors'goods

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The top 1% is richer than Caesar. I don't want 90% of the population looking forward to the afterlife while working Walmart kinds of jobs and hoping or your children don't get sick and your water is safe to drink.

In that same vein Jesus taught us to love one another and to be charitable .
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:45 PM
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Hammering away at the christians again with more distorted, suit your purpose only BS!
Truth hurts doesn't it?
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:50 PM
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The top 1% is richer than Caesar. I don't want 90% of the population looking forward to the afterlife while working Walmart kinds of jobs and hoping or your children don't get sick and your water is safe to drink.

In that same vein Jesus taught us to love one another and to be charitable .
What are you prepared to do about it, vote for Hillary Clinton? Hillary, if elected, will be Obama's third term. And, the income gap has only widened under Obama's "leadership".
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:51 PM
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Dear Guest: I address you directly and only you because your post was the most civil when responding to my reference to Obama and Kenya.

Far too many progressives are reactionary and absolute. Far too many progressives are elitist in their thinking and as such quickly dismiss the thoughts of others. Its why free speech in universities is well no longer free speech where trigger warnings and micro aggressions carry safe spaces for students who abhor the history of angry old white men.

My case in point is the very title of this post. I was accused of being a "birther" and that was the only civil word used to describe me.

Apparently the worlds of figuratively and literally get co-mingled with progressives? Did I not say "despite the definition of natural born" . Did I not mean and did I not say that while Obama may be a natural born citizen eligible for presidential election meaning he is of mind and soul an internationalist and has shown how he relates more to Kenya then America. You believe me wrong then why is he intent on such radical change for America? Why does he use every means available legally or illegally, constitutionally or unconstitutionally to transform the only super power remaining to just another country?

I am a citizen with the mind set of Justice Scalia and abhor anyone either progressive or conservative that I view as being harmful to our democracy.

In both my personal and business lives I never needed to be right but I needed to do right. I had listened to my wife, children friends employees and if they could convince me of another way better than mine I moved in their direction. Unfortunately in the progressive world, for too many, its their way or the highway.

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Scalia was a bigot, you by your posts have made that known, so I can see where you identify with him.
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:09 PM
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What are you prepared to do about it, vote for Hillary Clinton? Hillary, if elected, will be Obama's third term. And, the income gap has only widened under Obama's "leadership".
Can you explain why the gap has widened? The rest of us will explain Obama's participation in this injustice.
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:11 PM
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Scalia was a bigot, you by your posts have made that known, so I can see where you identify with him.
Maybe you could enlighten us to the reasons you think Scalia was a bigot.
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:24 PM
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Can you explain why the gap has widened? The rest of us will explain Obama's participation in this injustice.
For starters, adding 11 million low-skilled, n-skilled workers to the labor force which serves to only stagnate the wages of all workers. I'm awaiting your explanation of Obama's participation.
 

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