http://townhall.com/columnists/Walte...h_care_a_right

I love Walter Williams. He and Thomas Sowell are my two favorite columnists. They always make so much sense.

"None of my argument is to argue against charity. Reaching into one's own pockets to assist his fellow man in need is praiseworthy and laudable. Reaching into someone else's pockets to do so is despicable and deserves condemnation."

states the issue very eloquently...hit's the nail squarely...and should be the battle cry against Obama and his ram rods.

btk

I agree with this article. Health care is not a right but a privilege that most of us can earn for ourselves and our families..........however, I do wish that the hospitals and labs and service providers would not gouge us so much. I feel that doctors are usually fairly paid.

And as this writer states, I agree that charity is another matter. Helping others is part of my value system, but appropriate expectations of others to help themselves is part of my value system too.

It's all part of trying to win the argument by framing it a certain way. If you say that health care, as has been argued for housing, food or any other number of things, is a *right*, then you can't deny someone their rights.

It's not a "right" - and it never should be.

Now, if you want to make "basic health care" a "privilege" for "citizens of the United States" - that's another argument entirely - but calling it a "right" doesn't make it so.

Ditto. If you feel obliged to help someone who needs it, contribute to one of the organizations on this partial list below or find another means to help those less fortunate. But don't feel it is your right or privilege to reach into my pocket and force me to contribute. If I choose to help the poor or indigent, I'll do it, not because I'm obligated to do it or forced to do it by the government. I'll do it as a deed and privilege between my conscious and God.

http://www.needhelppayingbills.com/h...th.html#health


“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

Ditto. If you feel obliged to help someone who needs it, contribute to one of the organizations on this partial list below or find another means to help those less fortunate. But don't feel it is your right or privilege to reach into my pocket and force me to contribute. If I choose to help the poor or indigent, I'll do it, not because I'm obligated to do it or forced to do it by the government. I'll do it as a deed and privilege between my conscious and God.

http://www.needhelppayingbills.com/h...th.html#health


“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

I agree

Health care is a commodity...like food, electricity, phone service, a house...
Health care is not a right.
As politically "incorrect" as that may seem I learned a lot listening to Judge Napalotano (?sp) on Fox radio explain how the law, constitution,theologins and ethicists define "rights".

We, as a people, need to decide how we provide certain commodities (heat, food, shelter, healthcare, etc) to those that for a multitude of reasons (and therein lies the rub)cannot/will not provide for themselves.

If a person has the right to free heathcare. He also should be entittled to free food because eating is one of the best medicines for staying healthy and curing many medical problems.

We should also provide free entertainment of all kinds to people who cannot afford iso they will not be depressed and require medicine and treatments for mental problems.

Originally Posted by cashman

If a person has the right to free heathcare. He also should be entittled to free food because eating is one of the best medicines for staying healthy and curing many medical problems.

We should also provide free entertainment of all kinds to people who cannot afford iso they will not be depressed and require medicine and treatments for mental problems.

We do provide free food. AKA- Foodstamps. We also have heat subsidies (free heat), housing subsidies (section 8).... in fact we already have free health care--Medicaid... so go figure!

cashman, according to that philosophy, I should be entitled to free healthcare (whoops, that is available), free food assistance (ummm, that is too), free counseling for my emotional care, getting my child support or work training (oh, yeah, I forgot they offer all that). Well how about assistance with my heating bill (oopps, that is part of the government assistance), WELL, how 'bout free cellphone (silly me, they offer that too). How about childcare or birth control (oh, yeah, my bad, daggone they offer that), housing, or a car (yeah, I forgot, that too is available). Education?? (My bad, that's on the list cradle to the grave list) Heck, the government will even help me with my taxes.
Well, I hope they get that high speed Internet thing up and going. I'm sick of paying that bill and I think it is my right. And if you want the US government to pay for your sex change...you'll have to go to Cuba....for now anyway.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

cashman, according to that philosophy, I should be entitled to free healthcare (whoops, that is available), free food assistance (ummm, that is too), free counseling for my emotional care, getting my child support or work training (oh, yeah, I forgot they offer all that). Well how about assistance with my heating bill (oopps, that is part of the government assistance), WELL, how 'bout free cellphone (silly me, they offer that too). How about childcare or birth control (oh, yeah, my bad, daggone they offer that), housing, or a car (yeah, I forgot, that too is available). Education?? (My bad, that's on the list cradle to the grave list) Heck, the government will even help me with my taxes.
Well, I hope they get that high speed Internet thing up and going. I'm sick of paying that bill and I think it is my right. And if you want the US government to pay for your sex change...you'll have to go to Cuba....for now anyway.

http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal

Wrong--at least Pa medicaid has covered sex change surgery

Free stuff will have to stop when the planned Socialist government has taken all the money away from those of us who pay taxes.