Originally Posted by buggyone

If Santorum gets the GOP nomination, that is spectacular news for the Democrats. The Democrat victory would be by over 15% compared to 3% if Romney would be the candidate.

How many Hispanics and Black voters would vote for Santorum? Hardly any is the answer. He is basically bigoted as shown in this link where he targets blacks as recepients of aid and no one else. Santorum targets blacks in entitlement reform - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

I say Santorum should be the candidate. It would provide an even easier victory for President Obama.

Thanks for the post and the link. People need to take a close look at this bigot and see him for what he is. Being a devout Christian does not give you the right to be a bigot and spew the hatred that this one man redneck bigot machine has been doing for years. As said by Bourbon breath, I am out of the closet now. Call it what you wish, but I will not condemn a man or women because they are GAY. They have rights just like the rest of American and should not be cast out like Santorum Does to them. The calling of Gay people animals is the only real issue I have with Santorm, but it is a big enough issue for me to vote out of my party to help stop someone like him from getting into the WH. I agree with Bourbon Breath on many many issue on this forum, but the condemnation of Gay American is too much for me to tolerate.

While Santorum is solid in the values that have made America great, like working for a living instead of voting for a living, refusing to spend money you don't have, and revering God instead of an alluring politician (those same values that have now been flushed down the toilet by Obama-Pelosi-Reid et al), Santorum does not have the requisite superficiality (of charm, good looks and promising free stuff) to defeat

Slick Barry

in the debates.

(Slick Willy is a mere novice compared to Slick Barry.)

Originally Posted by ilovetv

While Santorum is solid in the values that have made America great (and those values that have now been flushed down the toilet by Obama-Pelosi-Reid et al), Santorum does not have the requisite superficiality (of charm, good looks and promising free stuff) to defeat

Slick Barry

in the debates.

(Slick Willy is a mere novice compared to Slick Barry.)

I agree that Santorum is solid in the values that have made America Great, but ya just can't sanction his bigotry.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I agree that Santorum is solid in the values that have made America Great, but ya just can't sanction his bigotry.

With all due respect, you are confused.

Sorry, Richie. I will never vote for someone who makes the claim that my gay relatives engage in the equivalent of bestiality.

Those are not the values that I want in *my* version of America.

Here's some Santorum quotes that turn my stomach:

“In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality.” –Rick Santorum, AP interview

Privacy?

It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn’t exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution.

So I'll reference the Constitution in that privacy is mentioned in Ammendments 1 (Privacy of Belief), 3 (of Home) and 4 (one's Person and Possessions) - and let's not forget the 9th that says more rights may exist.

Marriage? Hey, Rick - I had a vasectomy after my second daughter was born. I was divorced a few years back but I just got married a year and a half ago. What say you?

“Marriage is not about affirming somebody’s love for somebody else. It’s about uniting together to be open to children, to further civilization in our society.” –Rick Santorum on Fox News Sunday.

(I guess infertile couples who don't adopt shouldn't be married)

What about The Pursuit of Happiness?

“Suffering, if you’re a Christian, suffering is a part of life. And it’s not a bad thing, it is an essential thing in life … There are all different ways to suffer. One way to suffer is through lack of food and shelter and there’s another way to suffer which is lack of dignity and hope and there’s all sorts of ways that people suffer and it’s not just tangible, it’s also intangible and we have to consider both.”
~Rick Santorum, saying that Americans should suffer because suffering is good.

Yes, Santorum does have a holier than thou attitude and wants to force his belief on everyone else. That is one thing about these uberconservatives that I cannot stand.

Well, we do not have to worry that Santorum or his ilk will get control of the White House. The voters in America are too wise for that smug bigot to be voted in.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Yes, Santorum does have a holier than thou attitude and wants to force his belief on everyone else. That is one thing about these uberconservatives that I cannot stand.

Well, we do not have to worry that Santorum or his ilk will get control of the White House. The voters in America are too wise for that smug bigot to be voted in.

That is crap !! TOTAL !!!

He gives his opinion on things personal.....as does the President...well, that is not true...he doesnt actually..he changes with the audience, HOWEVER...

A man gives his opinion...he never, to my knowledge did anything more. I will agree he will not be the candidate but now he is the one you must villify personally as he is getting more attention.

Your personal attacks just keep an eye on whatever the target of the day is.

Wow, Bucco, I did not mean to cause you such anguish. Sounds as though you were about ready to have a stroke and we sure do not want that to happen.

You should come over to the watering hole some time and get to know a few of the posters personally. You might be very surprised.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Wow, Bucco, I did not mean to cause you such anguish. Sounds as though you were about ready to have a stroke and we sure do not want that to happen.

You should come over to the watering hole some time and get to know a few of the posters personally. You might be very surprised.

I can only imagine your personal attacks in person and under some influence...so will pass, and I have been here quite sometime and know a few posters quite well.

Originally Posted by Bucco

That is crap !! TOTAL !!!

He gives his opinion on things personal.....as does the President...well, that is not true...he doesnt actually..he changes with the audience, HOWEVER...

A man gives his opinion...he never, to my knowledge did anything more. I will agree he will not be the candidate but now he is the one you must villify personally as he is getting more attention.

Your personal attacks just keep an eye on whatever the target of the day is.

BUT BUT BUT BUT his personal opinions are give in public stating that Gay Americans are no different than animals. Do you agree with that bigotry? Do you want a public official selecting what segments of our society are acceptable and which ones are not? He is a christian version of Osama Bin Laden.

I haven't heard it mentioned that Sen Santorum got his local school district in PA to give him $30,000.00 so he could home school his kids. And why is Gov Romney getting secret service protection when he has only won three contests? Santorum has won four. Both items seem like a waste of taxpayer's money.

And why have far fewer people voted or caucused this year than 2008? Voting was down 16% in Florida.

does it matter that there was a LOW voter turn out? Which is a shame because that is how we wound up with Obama.

Frankly I smell a bit of chum on the water in the presentation of the thread.

btk

Originally Posted by janmcn

I haven't heard it mentioned that Sen Santorum got his local school district in PA to give him $30,000.00 so he could home school his kids. And why is Gov Romney getting secret service protection when he has only won three contests? Santorum has won four. Both items seem like a waste of taxpayer's money.

And why have far fewer people voted or caucused this year than 2008? Voting was down 16% in Florida.

Because we are talking about Santorum being a bigot not a thief. Most politicians are crocked, but rarely is one such an obvious Bigot.

Originally Posted by billethkid

does it matter that there was a LOW voter turn out? Which is a shame because that is how we wound up with Obama.

Frankly I smell a bit of chum on the water in the presentation of the thread.

btk

Just because I am a conservative Republican, does not cause me to close my eyes to a terrible wrong. The man is a bigot and should not be allowed to serve as a public figure.

Originally Posted by djplong

Sorry, Richie. I will never vote for someone who makes the claim that my gay relatives engage in the equivalent of bestiality.

Those are not the values that I want in *my* version of America.

Here's some Santorum quotes that turn my stomach:



Privacy?


So I'll reference the Constitution in that privacy is mentioned in Ammendments 1 (Privacy of Belief), 3 (of Home) and 4 (one's Person and Possessions) - and let's not forget the 9th that says more rights may exist.

Marriage? Hey, Rick - I had a vasectomy after my second daughter was born. I was divorced a few years back but I just got married a year and a half ago. What say you?


(I guess infertile couples who don't adopt shouldn't be married)

What about The Pursuit of Happiness?

Let me add mine: I heard him talking about Obama's attack on religion. He said Obama's support of freedom of choice was an assault on the church because the church does not believe in freedom of choice.

Ok...Obama eats pork...do I think he is assaulting the Jewish religion? Well, duh, of course not. Rickie plays fast and loose with his analogies...This kind of circular thinking is very silly.

And again, I feel like I have to say that I am not and have never been an Obama supporter and I am considering voting for a repub for president for the second time in my life. First was McCain, until he picked the Palin. Right now, I would vote for Romney, provided he does not pull a Palin like move.