Let it be clear, Santorum is a bigot. It is so easy for republicans to overlook little things like bigotry and prejudice as long as it is not directed at rich white heterosexual men.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I agree completely. Rick Santorum is without a doubt in my mind the finest candidate running for the office. He doesn't have the support of the Republican Establishment, or any of the massive free political advertising and name recognition that the major newspapers are giving Romney.

But Santorum has the message that all of middle America will gravitate to if they are given and take the opportunity to hear this solid American speak.

Just this morning, a conservative talk show host, by the name of Bud Hedinger, described Santorum as "milk-toast". He may be the best candidate as far as being consistently conservative, but can he win against Obama when he is seen as milk-toast?

Originally Posted by The Villager II

BUT BUT BUT BUT his personal opinions are give in public stating that Gay Americans are no different than animals.

In a quote given by djplong, it seems Santorum was saying the opposite of what you just said. Here it is again: "That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's NOT, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.

It sounds to me like he just doesn't support gay marriage. Does that make him a bigot?

Originally Posted by Villages PL

In a quote given by djplong, it seems Santorum was saying the opposite of what you just said. Here it is again: "That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's NOT, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.

It sounds to me like he just doesn't support gay marriage. Does that make him a bigot?

I will do some more research, but I understand that he does not believe in equal rights for gay Americans.

Originally Posted by Villages PL

In a quote given by djplong, it seems Santorum was saying the opposite of what you just said. Here it is again: "That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's NOT, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be.

It sounds to me like he just doesn't support gay marriage. Does that make him a bigot?

Villages Pl spot on. The left has a bad habit of name calling if you don't agree with their point of view. don't agree with Obama then your a racist. Demand marriage remain defined as between a man and a woman bigot.

Let's assume that a person is a racist and/or a bigot does what they believe make them wrong? No not necessarily so calling someone a name doesn't make them wrong

I would like to see Santorum come out publicly in support of Gay rights to clear his name. Right now, he is truly believed to be a bigot. If he is not, then he will have my support, but not until he makes a statement to the contrary.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I would like to see Santorum come out publicly in support of Gay rights to clear his name. Right now, he is truly believed to be a bigot. If he is not, then he will have my support, but not until he makes a statement to the contrary.

Don't hold your breath. He is the epitome of the social conservative. Unmoveable.

The day President Santorum is sworn in he will be president of all the people. He'll have to accept that a woman's right to choose is the law of the land, and some states allow gay marriage, and gays are allowed to serve openly in the military. Wonder if he's up to the task?

Originally Posted by janmcn

The day President Santorum is sworn in he will be president of all the people. He'll have to accept that a woman's right to choose is the law of the land, and some states allow gay marriage, and gays are allowed to serve openly in the military. Wonder if he's up to the task?

Just like Obama accepted the ban against Federal money going toward abortion?...then circumvented that by mandating abortion services be provided for by all health care plans!

going all the way back to lady doc's post about obama eating pork, which does not offend her as a jewish person....what he is doing to catholics is the equivalent of forcing YOU to eat pork! no one wants to be forced by the govt to do what they feel is immoral or undesirable. that is the whole point of the discussion!! we have amendments to the constitution to protect us from these governmental power grabs!

It is ironic that 95% of Catholic women use contraceptives. I don't think you will find these women opposing the requirement that health plans pay. It's the social conservative men and the Catholic hierarch (men) that provide the opposition. Some things never change.

a quote from NBC evening news.
I wondered then and now again. Just how do you suppose they came up with the data/information to make a statement of 95%??

The quote is from a democratic woman on the news tonight in her lash back at those who would oppose something Obama is pushing. But just how credible is the 95%. And what does it have to do with the government sticking their nose in where it has no business? Typical political puffing and red herring and avoiding the real issue......again.

btk

It's also ironic that feminists and pro-abortion-rights activists have yelled for years at anti-abortion politicians, "STAY OUT of my bedroom! STAY OUT of my uterus!!" and......

"Only a woman and her doctor should be involved in a woman's reproductive decisions (abortion)....NOT a bunch of old white men in Washington".

And now, the same people are saying, "Get IN here and PAY for control of my uterine lining and other tissue growth.....Get IN here and PAY to alter my ovarian function.....Get IN here and pay for ligation of my fallopian tubes to sterilize me!"

So, Enter the politicians, employers' benefits managers, insurance company claims processors, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Personally, if I wanted all these politicians and employers to "stay out of my bedroom and uterus", I would pay for contraceptives MYSELF, for the price of $15 to $40 per month. And if a person can't afford the pills, then go to an agency like Planned Parenthood to get them!! That's what millions of privately donated dollars are given to them for!

So in the end, it's ALL about getting "FREE" government-paid healthcare and prescriptions.......Getting them with OPM--Other People's Money.

So somehow, the right to PRIVACY, that is so essential to the Roe v. Wade decision, should now be thrown out the window for the sake of getting a $20 prescription for "Free" from the government using "other people's money", with all kinds of "old white men in Washington" getting involved and even using it in their re-election campaign speeches and soundbites.

What a bunch of phonies these women's "health advocates" are.

A guy at work was complaining today about the Catholic church. His daughter teaches at a parochial school, and her employer (Catholic church) is dropping her insurance because of this whole contraceptive mandate. I asked him if her insurance had covered it? Answer was no. Was she happy with the insurance she had? Answer was yes. I then asked him why he was mad at the Catholic church? Seems to me that everything was working out just fine for her until the government starting changing up the rules...Ain't it just like the liberal politicians-Create a problem, blame someone thereby creating a villian, and then come in an save the day!

It's also ironic that feminists and pro-abortion-rights activists have yelled for years at anti-abortion politicians, "STAY OUT of my bedroom! STAY OUT of my uterus!!" and......

"Only a woman and her doctor should be involved in a woman's reproductive decisions (abortion)....NOT a bunch of old white men in Washington".

And now, the same people are saying, "Get IN here and PAY for control of my uterine lining and other tissue growth.....Get IN here and PAY to alter my ovarian function.....Get IN here and pay for ligation of my fallopian tubes to sterilize me!"

So, Enter the politicians, employers' benefits managers, insurance company claims processors, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Personally, if I wanted all these politicians and employers to "stay out of my bedroom and uterus", I would pay for contraceptives MYSELF, for the price of $15 to $40 per month. And if a person can't afford the pills, then go to an agency like Planned Parenthood to get them!! That's what millions of privately donated dollars are given to them for!

So in the end, it's ALL about getting "FREE" government-paid healthcare and prescriptions.......Getting them with OPM--Other People's Money.

So somehow, the right to PRIVACY, that is so essential to the Roe v. Wade decision, should now be thrown out the window for the sake of getting a $20 prescription for "Free" from the government using "other people's money", with all kinds of "old white men in Washington" getting involved and even using it in their re-election campaign speeches and soundbites.

What a bunch of phonies these women's "health advocates" are.

Bravo... amen.....right on.


This is about people wanting something but wanting someone else to pay for it!
Any women, anywhere, at anytime can get birth control now. This is not about can they have it, it is about can they have it free. It is the law, you can have it. You may have to pay for it and if you can't go to Planned Parenthood and you can get it free!
This whole thing is the most dishonest argument that the left has ever had. It is always "womens health" or "childrens rights" or whatever gets the headlines.

I wonder where the polls came up with 10% of the people that think these people are doing a good job!