Originally Posted by Guest

If you are so disgusted with television or movies, just do not watch television or go to the movies.

Obviously, your views are not shared by the rest of the movie goers or tv watchers.

Did you read my comment? Apparently not, or you would realize that you are totally off base. I responded to a comment, and then you flew off the handle. No big deal. By the way, I don't go to the movies because of rude idiots that talk and use their cell phones. My preference and my prerogative. I can watch the same movie on Demand a couple weeks after it's in the theater, and I can pause it, rewind it and not have to worry about the idiots rudely distracting.
But, this wasn't about me until you pounced into the conversation.

But, I do agree with the poster that stated that Hollywood is catering to the deviants in many cases....most cases. Decent movies don't make money. And money is what it's all about. Ask the Clintons, or Trump. Hate to admit it but Trump is probably the more decent of the two.

Some folks are decent enough that they will not compromise their morals to make a buck. Obviously, Hollywood is lacking in morals.

Originally Posted by Guest

Without commenting further on Mr. PBR's fear of gays and lesbians -

The cable stations know what viewers like to watch. Look at the great success of The Sopranos". It basically glorified organized crime and had weekly episodes that included graphic violence, just about every word banned from regular television, and nudity.

Would a "Ozzie and Harriet", "Leave it to Beaver", or "Dennis the Menace" get any viewers in prime time?

Personally, I really enjoy "Modern Family".

In short, viewers like these shows! Hollywood knows what sells!

No agenda - just good business.

Dear Guest:

Up to this point I have been and will certainly continue to be respectful to every person who has in their way earn the respect of others.

So if you didn't hear it the last two times,I said on this thread I am not homophobic, nor have I made any derogatory remarks about homosexuals.
You may be angered because I disagree with homosexuality and I do so because every cell in my body tells me it is naturally and morally wrong.

You go on to further make my point. Ozzie & hariet were nice but there have been many decent movies and TV sitcoms made in the past that are quality family entertainment. I hate that Hollywood glorifies gangsters drug dealers and thugs. As an American of Italian ancestry I was and am offended of the continuing portrayals of mafia dons characters and the like.
I never aspired to be a wiseguy.

I do not care to see sex scenes displaying threesomes, sadism ,etc anymore than homosexuals scenes. I deplore woman being referred to as "b".

One poster said something like well if you don't like it don't watch. However if I followed that advice I wouldn't be able to watch much of anything in the movies or TV. In fact many of the cartoons carry serious sexual themes.
Hollywood has floated us in a cesspool of entertainment for a very long time so I am thankful for fast forward.

Younger folks who have never been under the guidance of the League of Decency really don't know the difference...and again that was the mission of the homosexual community keep it in front of people and pretty soon it will appear as normal. So like today we find gratuitous sex is liken to a handshake, so too will this agenda. Drugs are something we all do is another theme. Oral sex is not sex just ask the 42nd President and Dr. Oz had his head handed to him when he briefly mention the health risks associated with this practice. Yet we have the same people who want to confiscate our guns also want to liberalize drug laws....ITS INSANE

I wanted to buy my wife a humorous birthday card the other day and was disappointed that I could not find one that was not vulgar

Back to my opening paragraph you continue to use that same progressive ploy of name calling as your argument. With all due respect DO YOU THINK I JUST FELL OUT OF A TREE?

Hollywood is a cesspool and too many of the dregs of society employed by it are being honored with celebrity when society ought to return to running them out of town with the proverbial being tarred and feathered.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Without commenting further on Mr. PBR's fear of gays and lesbians -

The cable stations know what viewers like to watch. Look at the great success of The Sopranos". It basically glorified organized crime and had weekly episodes that included graphic violence, just about every word banned from regular television, and nudity.

Would a "Ozzie and Harriet", "Leave it to Beaver", or "Dennis the Menace" get any viewers in prime time?

Personally, I really enjoy "Modern Family".

In short, viewers like these shows! Hollywood knows what sells!

No agenda - just good business.

BS!

Originally Posted by Guest

BS!

Would or could you comment further on your remark?

It was such a brilliant, well thought out remark and impressed the heck out of me.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Guest:

Up to this point I have been and will certainly continue to be respectful to every person who has in their way earn the respect of others.

So if you didn't hear it the last two times,I said on this thread I am not homophobic, nor have I made any derogatory remarks about homosexuals.
You may be angered because I disagree with homosexuality and I do so because every cell in my body tells me it is naturally and morally wrong.

You go on to further make my point. Ozzie & hariet were nice but there have been many decent movies and TV sitcoms made in the past that are quality family entertainment. I hate that Hollywood glorifies gangsters drug dealers and thugs. As an American of Italian ancestry I was and am offended of the continuing portrayals of mafia dons characters and the like.
I never aspired to be a wiseguy.

I do not care to see sex scenes displaying threesomes, sadism ,etc anymore than homosexuals scenes. I deplore woman being referred to as "b".

One poster said something like well if you don't like it don't watch. However if I followed that advice I wouldn't be able to watch much of anything in the movies or TV.

I wanted to buy my wife a humorous birthday card the other day and was disappointed that I could not find one that was not vulgar

Back to my opening paragraph you continue to use that same progressive ploy of name calling as your argument. With all due respect DO YOU THINK I JUST FELL OUT OF A TREE?

Hollywood is a cesspool and too many of the dregs of society employed by it are being honored with celebrity when society ought to return to running them out of town with the proverbial being tarred and feathered.

Personal Best Regards:

Obviously, you are passionate about this. That is your right. No problem.

However, all people have their rights also. If movie producers make what the public wants, it is THEIR business.

Did you force your children into your beliefs or encourage them to think on their own? How about their children?

Originally Posted by Guest

Would or could you comment further on your remark?

It was such a brilliant, well thought out remark and impressed the heck out of me.

I think I took the post the wrong way!! My fingers on the keyboard got ahead of my brain!!

Originally Posted by Guest

Obviously, you are passionate about this. That is your right. No problem.

However, all people have their rights also. If movie producers make what the public wants, it is THEIR business.

Did you force your children into your beliefs or encourage them to think on their own? How about their children?

Why don't you tell that to Obama. He seems to think that he knows what is best for Americans, regardless of what everyone tells him. Even if congress votes/suggests something, he thinks he knows better.

Like I have said before, America has rights. Some folks abuse those rights. Just because you have freedom of speech does not give you the RIGHT to yell "fire" in a movie theater. And yes, you have a right to abstain from frequenting the theater. Movies that I can tolerate with their sex and vulgar language would be just as good without those negative traits. I may be able to tolerate these negatives but my wife is embarrassed and put off by it. Would you take your girlfriend on a date to see Deliverance? Would you take a girlfriend on a first date to see "50 Shades of Gray?" I realize these are extremes but there are a lot of movies that you just wouldn't see with your spouse or girlfriend. And yes, my wife does like adventure/action movies. She is just put off by vulgar language and explicit sex scenes. Stuff that is not necessary for a good movie.

This is just my opinion and it has no power on the entertainment industry. Like I said before, I don't waste my money on the theater anymore. I can turn a movie or TV show on at home and switch channels if the material becomes offensive.

If language and sex is a must in order to sell the entertainment then it's not that good a quality to begin with. Another example of entertainment gone wrong is the music industry. Many of the songs today would not be on anyone's chart if not for explicit music videos.

Just because some action is a right, does not mean one should abuse that right. How long before the movie industry takes off the "XXX" rating and starts pushing porn? Every teenage boy will be in those theaters if the governor is released from the control.

You all think we have a problem with violence in America now, and entertainment is not contributing to it?

Originally Posted by Guest

Obviously, you are passionate about this. That is your right. No problem.

However, all people have their rights also. If movie producers make what the public wants, it is THEIR business.

Did you force your children into your beliefs or encourage them to think on their own? How about their children?

Dear Guest: Past from generation after generation in my family and to my parents were that children should always be treated as a protected species . So do you believe since the late 1960's parents have done a good job in protecting their kids from the influences of Hollywood, crooked politicians and drug dealers? Today's movies and TV sitcoms were yesterdays pornography and people hardly notice the difference.

What I encouraged my children to believe was to have good moral judgment, to be kind to people, to do their fair share, to be productive, to be good citizens, etc.

So when our political leaders, Hollywood celebrities ,sports heroes et al behave unethically, arrogantly greedy, etc my children would know the difference and speak up.

We have far too many good kids with no moral compass. Confused kids that are taught to dislike America. Kids who view the dregs of society as kool such as Kanye West. Even in my kids day nice people moved away quickly from characters like him.

You referred to my beliefs as "passionate" I wish that were the case. Quite honestly I'm concerned.. even going beyond concerned for today's kids and the future of this nation. We need to worry more about imploding than any outside enemy.

America is becoming a god-less nation and more are involved in hedonistic practices which means they believe only in material things, that the only purpose to life is pleasure and that their gods are rock stars, etc Name just one entertainment or sports celebrity you believe deserves kids idolization? Unless and until we return to believing in the exceptionalism of America and something greater than ourselves we will continue this rapid descent into mediocrity. Passionate, no scared very afraid. May God see fit to once again bless America

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Except for our sheer size as a market or supplier, for the most part the rest od the world does NOW view us as mediocre.

It tokk hundreds of years to evolve into the greates nation on earth. And one blithering idiot 7 years to turn us into a world wide laughing stock!

Originally Posted by Guest

Except for our sheer size as a market or supplier, for the most part the rest od the world does NOW view us as mediocre.

It tokk hundreds of years to evolve into the greates nation on earth. And one blithering idiot 7 years to turn us into a world wide laughing stock!

George W. Bush was that blithering idiot!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

George W. Bush was that blithering idiot!!!

Blithering: senselessly talkative, babbling; used chiefly as an intensive to express annoyance or contempt.

Nope, Bush doesn't fit that definition, but Obama has a record of "blithering" and you seem to fit the definition.

Originally Posted by Guest

George W. Bush was that blithering idiot!!!

I just love those little "do dads" you put on your posts.

Is that part of a class project or something Mom showed you ?

By the way, it would be more enjoyable if you knew anything about what is happening in the world, and could add some real commentary to your drawings.

Originally Posted by Guest

I just love those little "do dads" you put on your posts.

Is that part of a class project or something Mom showed you ?

By the way, it would be more enjoyable if you knew anything about what is happening in the world, and could add some real commentary to your drawings.

We all know from past experience what you see in his post is all you get.

[QUOTE=Guest;1126137]Blithering: senselessly talkative, babbling; used chiefly as an intensive to express annoyance or contempt./QUOTE]

Yes, that is George W. Bush!

How about that little weasel sneer he used to wear?

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Originally Posted by Guest

Blithering: senselessly talkative, babbling; used chiefly as an intensive to express annoyance or contempt./QUOTE]

Yes, that is George W. Bush!

How about that little weasel sneer he used to wear?

Dear Guest: To you and all the posters above you who desire to play the blame game and haven't figured out that the party line of " I don't have a problem you have the problem" is not only unproductive its counter productive pushing us further and further back.

Wise up,tThis is not about progressive conservative or independent its about citizens joining together and demanding better moral, productive and prudent leadership and spending.

Make the same demands to Bush as you would to Clinton, Obama, Rubio, Trump......

WE ARE ALL BEING TAKEN TO CLEANERS BY OUR POLITICIANS AND THOSE VOTERS THAT DO NOT KNOW BETTER END UP THANKING THEM

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