This from our own State Department. I realize that most of you might not care but I think this potential deal is so very important to our country long range.

"Iran remains a state of nuclear “proliferation concern,” has kept up its support for terrorism in the Middle East and is trying to grow its influence in regions as far away as Latin America, the State Department said in its latest report on global terrorism."



Read more: Iran still a proliferation 'concern' State Dept. says - Nahal Toosi - POLITICO

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This from our own State Department. I realize that most of you might not care but I think this potential deal is so very important to our country long range.

"Iran remains a state of nuclear “proliferation concern,” has kept up its support for terrorism in the Middle East and is trying to grow its influence in regions as far away as Latin America, the State Department said in its latest report on global terrorism."



Read more: Iran still a proliferation 'concern' State Dept. says - Nahal Toosi - POLITICO

I have followed a number of your posts on this topic. Well done and I agree with the gist of what you said.

Unfortunately, we are being sold down the river by the current administration and most people don't even have a clue as to the long (even mid) term implications. It's a game changer but the largely brainless American public (ie 75% of so?) remains focused on Bruce Jenner, Rachel Dolezal and various other empty aspects of our culture.

We are no longer feared by our enemies ... if anything we are mocked and held in contempt by them. The Iran "deal" is a PERFECT example of our vacuity. John Kerry ...I'm guessing he will be wind surfing when the s*** hits the fan a few years down the road.

Iran equal dedicated killers and murderers commited and spoken to continue to do so....terrorism sanctuary and sponsor/supporter.

Obama (not USA!) dedicated to anything that makes it look like he has done something no other president was able to do.....and he may be right.....making a deal with an enemy commited to continue to supporting slaughter of innocents.

What I see are people, too many Americans, who are willing to accept what is going down as they interpret it to be a party loyalist. They have set aside their values for life, freedoms and safety of peaceful peoples in the world to back the party.

I would like to hear from an opposition party purist, without regard for party, just exactly why they believe there is no danger in allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability? Why should they not be seen for what they portray, an enemy of our way of life?

Just for once with no party pandering. Think in terms of your future family members being killed or tortured if they do not yield to Islam. Get personally involved.

Is it possible?

Deadline for this is now about 48-72 hours away, so thought would move this up.

My thoughts....nobody wants war at all so let's get that straight.

My concern is that Iran, to this day, is the largest state supporter of terrorism. They still, to this day, say their desire is to destroy Israel. They still condemn our country.

We KNOW whatever the deal is, they will get nuclear weapons. The time frame is the only question.

I do not know what is in the deal or not in the deal, but last I read any specifics, Iran was holding firm on NO inspection of previous sites, NO allowance of any details as to where they were in development.

Will congress allow this to become just another political debate...Democrats versus Republicans ? Are there statesman on the left that might go against the President on this ? Will this, if there is a deal, be the beginning of an nuclear arms race in the Middle East with countries trying to stay even with a country that sponsors terrorism who they know will have it, and from what I read with our assistance ?

This is very uneasy for me, and wondering how others view it ?

I suppose you are not allowed to BUMP any thread but this issue of Iran is far more important than Donald Trump or crowds at Sanders rallies and yet we do not discuss.

Perhaps because we are guessing at the details ? I tried to form a few questions in my last post but to me, this is a very big deal.

Just wait until or if there is a deal. Obama will have a camera in his face nation wide 30 minutes later. He will tell us how HE made it possible to be at peace even with those we may have disagreements.
He will procede to tell us how much safer we all are as a result of HIS agenda.

HOWEVER.....do not expect to hear any details of the plan or how it will work to assure there is no nuclear weapon to threaten the world with.

The Iranians have declared and confirmed time and again that the USA is their enemy. They are the source of much of the sponsored terrorism. They will continue to laugh at us at every opportunity they have.

Their general in charge of all the Iranian land forces stated yesterday that even if there is a signed agreement, Iran and the USA will remain "ENEMIES".

We may not like the Iranian leadership but what we know for sure, they are not two faced......we are their enemy and they are sworn to defeat their enemy..........

Iranian agreement = waste of time political cannon fodder and bragging rights for Obama (only).

THIS does no sway me



"For now all eyes are on Iran, which has the fourth biggest oil reserves in the world. A big part of the nuclear deal is that the West will lift sanctions on Iran, allowing it to increase its oil exports. That could be a game changer by deepening the oversupply of oil and sending prices down even further."


Oil prices dive below $53 as Iran deal looms - Jul. 6, 2015

Point is, from what we are hearing there will be a deal.

Gotta be honest, I have been posting about this and my concerns. I cannot think of anything that might sway me.

Originally Posted by Guest

THIS does no sway me



"For now all eyes are on Iran, which has the fourth biggest oil reserves in the world. A big part of the nuclear deal is that the West will lift sanctions on Iran, allowing it to increase its oil exports. That could be a game changer by deepening the oversupply of oil and sending prices down even further."


Oil prices dive below $53 as Iran deal looms - Jul. 6, 2015

Point is, from what we are hearing there will be a deal.

Gotta be honest, I have been posting about this and my concerns. I cannot think of anything that might sway me.

Remember, this could be a difference between $2.55 gasoline and $7.00 gasoline. I will take the cheapest gasoline, thank you.

Originally Posted by Guest

Remember, this could be a difference between $2.55 gasoline and $7.00 gasoline. I will take the cheapest gasoline, thank you.

Interesting......before possible nuclear proliferation in the Middle East ? Despite the promise of Iran having weapons within what ever time is negotiated ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Remember, this could be a difference between $2.55 gasoline and $7.00 gasoline. I will take the cheapest gasoline, thank you.

Wow! Innocent lives are second to YOUR price of gas!

I guess that is an indicator of where some Americans priorities are. Me first and everything that does not affect me personally is....OK!

Originally Posted by Guest

Wow! Innocent lives are second to YOUR price of gas!

I guess that is an indicator of where some Americans priorities are. Me first and everything that does not affect me personally is....OK!

You would be in the minority if you think different than I do. Ask around and see if your fellow Villagers would walk the walk of the certainty of paying $7 a gallon for gasoline or a very small possibility (and it is just that) of Iran achieving a nuclear weapon.

I doubt there is hradly anyone in the world today that isn't aware of the deal being made between Iran and Obama. And I'll wager than there are many that understand the deal is once again a retreat by Obama.

So in my view the only thing left to be said about the Iranian deal is that it is just insanity leading this nation.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

I doubt there is hradly anyone in the world today that isn't aware of the deal being made between Iran and Obama. And I'll wager than there are many that understand the deal is once again a retreat by Obama.

So in my view the only thing left to be said about the Iranian deal is that it is just insanity leading this nation.

Personal Best Regards:

I totally disagree with your view. Deals, concessions, and compromises must be made at times even with a disagreeable person or nation in order to achieve goals.

Now, what about the cheaper gasoline vs the sky-high gasoline question?

Reaching agreement with a disagreeable person is much different than conceding to a publicly sworn enemy of the USA. An enemy that has openly supported terrorism and those who would kill Americans and any others not sworn to Islam.

The issue is not about the agreement. The agreement is about the fact it does provide for Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. In addition we all know from history that any agreement that Iran reaches they will walk away from and ignore anytime it gets in the way of their agenda.

The price of gasoline is a hypothetical. The world has been doing just fine without the impact of Iranoil. The only contribution oil from Iran would have is adding to the supply and reducing prices FROM WHERE THE ARE NOW.......not upward.

Are you promoting cheap gas in exchange for nuclear instability? Nuclear threat to Americans?

Those are the realities......NOT CHEAP GAS!

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Iran poses no nuclear threat to America. End of story.