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Old 08-21-2016, 10:08 AM
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Shut the hell up and do not post your racism on here anymore! You are not welcome on this forum!

Who else agrees with me - on this?

Bobby D.
I am not the OP however YOU have more than worn-out your " Act " on this forum .

By the way have you ever spent any time with grown ups who are citizens of Denmark .
Well educated adults are not so happy paying oppressive tax rates . My neighbors up North were a husband and wife both high level surgeons who left Denmark .
It took them years to immigrate as they did it legally. They came here to escape the taxes which only discourage professionals from working .

NOW CALL ME A LIAR , A WUSS , ETC ETC BECAUSE THAT IS ALL YOU ARE CAPABLE OF .
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:37 AM
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Shut the hell up and do not post your racism on here anymore! You are not welcome on this forum!

Who else agrees with me - on this?

Bobby D.
Did I miss something? Since when did you become the forum moderator?
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:49 AM
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Did I miss something? Since when did you become the forum moderator?
Typical Bossy Anti-Free Speech Leftie .
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:52 AM
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I "think" that you are what is known as a LOW INFORMATION VOTER. Please get educated before you cast a vote so you do not cancel out the vote of someone who takes the time to learn why your question is so stupid. Hint: Nothing is FREE.
First almost all taxes in th US are progressive-the more you make the more you pay. It is not like if you earn $1000 the tax is 5% so you pay $50. If, you earn twice as much and the tax is now 8% you pay $2000 x.08= $160-MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS MUCH.
RE: social security
I was self employed. Few people realize OR CARE, that your employer pays as much for your social security as you do-it is TAX FREE INCOME paid to you. Social security runs 7% UNLESS YOU ARE SELF EMPLOYED-I paid 13%.
I just went on medicare. I pay TWICE the minimum for the same coverage AND I DO NOT GET THE INFLATION PROTECTION.
We all want no one wants to pay.
FAIR TAX? A fair tax is any tax where you pay less then others.
BASIC ECONOMICS-if you tax anything you will have less of it. If, you subsidize anything you will have more of it.
We, tax income, we are one of only two or three countries that tax interest on savings and we subsidize people who do not work. See where it has gotten us?
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:54 AM
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You lie when you fight for diversity. EVERYTHING I say is true. THEY are the MAJORITY below the age of 6, their majority grows every year. Go to "their part of town" and look around. That will be EVERY part of town in 30 years. Is that what YOU want? It's what you're getting. It's a mathematical certainty.

I will shout out AGAINST diversity until the last white person turns off the lights and the country is a 3rd world shell of its former glory.

EVERYWHERE "their" numbers increases goes down the tubes...EVERYWHERE. I've been calling for the "black paradise", you know, 99% black and fun and safe like the villages...haven't had ONE reply yet. I'm trying to SAVE you from your own foolishness. STOP diversity NOW or your country is lost.

I am a racist because we are VERY different...too different to ever "live together peacefully". WHERE do we all live together in peace? I'll ask that question too. Where is the 99% place that is open and friendly to others? Where is the 99% black place that I could go and NOT feel threatened? You need to expect them to act as you expect me to act. Or it's just ANOTHER case of having to lower the standards for them.

We're not equal and the sooner we admit it, the sooner we can really fix things. It's time to stop "everyone gets a trophy" and back to only the best will do.
I agree with you 100% and admire your courage to speak out .

On the other hand I have met and worked with many well educated Blacks and Hispanics who would never condone or embrace the popular thug culture.

Such a culture of hopelessness which is so prevalent in urban communities and celebrated by our entertainment , sports and news industries is as abhorrent to them as it is to us .
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Old 08-21-2016, 11:02 AM
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I have a HIM medicare preferred and I pay zero premium. I do know there is a deduction from my social check, however, it is small amount for great coverage. Before 65 I was paying over $600 per month for not so good coverage, praying that nothing would happen to me. They could raise my premium and I could not afford the increase.

It's great that some, mostly gov workers, have good coverage, but not everyone has.
Unless someone else was paying part of that you had catastrophic coverage.
Due to a pre-existing medical condition I could not buy a catastrophic policy-they would not sell it to me- and elect to self insure the rest. Our cost was 1200 a month.

Aside-my medical bills have not been high over my life.
While still on private insurance I was in the villages hospital for four days the bill was 50,000. My insurance company AETNA paid them 30,000 and that covered a 50,000 billing in FULL.

CLEARLY SOMETHING IN WRONG-as I mentioned above I had considered self-insuring. Had I done so not unlike other hospitals, my bill would have been 50,000 not the 30,000 that the insurance company paid.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:39 AM
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Why is it that every other developed country on the planet essentially has "Medicare for all"? And most spend much more than half what we do per capita.

Doesn't the Constitution say "provide for the General Welfare"? I'd think that starts with health care.

All the rhetoric I hear about being such a great country seems to miss a few points.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:56 AM
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Why is it that every other developed country on the planet essentially has "Medicare for all"? And most spend much more than half what we do per capita.

Doesn't the Constitution say "provide for the General Welfare"? I'd think that starts with health care.

All the rhetoric I hear about being such a great country seems to miss a few points.
The answer to your question is obsene profit in US system of healthcare. There is and has been a feeding frenzy for profit in all areas of medicine. Look around our own home town.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:04 AM
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Why is it that every other developed country on the planet essentially has "Medicare for all"? And most spend much more than half what we do per capita.

Doesn't the Constitution say "provide for the General Welfare"? I'd think that starts with health care.

All the rhetoric I hear about being such a great country seems to miss a few points.
They ALSO don't have the research that goes on here. You want to pay 3rd world prices? Then you get 3rd world technology. We pay for the R and D that pay what they can. Proportionally, they pay more, as a percent of income, they pay more.

That's what mommy and daddy are for. Not a nation. If the founders only knew what a can of worms that phrase became. ALL the "welfare" programs use that for an excuse for their existence. You REALLY want cradle to grave care? Like we do for the minorities?

It WAS a great country, up until the 60s and "civil rights". Affirmative action and quotas destroyed our greatness and replaced it with whiners. Once wonderful neighborhoods were shattered by "diversity". It WAS a great country, now it's a bunch of squabbling minorities.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:07 AM
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The answer to your question is obsene profit in US system of healthcare. There is and has been a feeding frenzy for profit in all areas of medicine. Look around our own home town.
Yes...the problem with the COST of medicine...is the cost of medicine. EVERYONE connected to the medical field makes too much profit. They literally have your life in their hands, they can charge whatever we'll pay.
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:02 AM
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Why is it that every other developed country on the planet essentially has "Medicare for all"? And most spend much more than half what we do per capita.

Doesn't the Constitution say "provide for the General Welfare"? I'd think that starts with health care.

All the rhetoric I hear about being such a great country seems to miss a few points.
No, it doesn't. And if you were not so lazy, you and anyone else that needs health care would have it.

"Other countries" pay high taxes to cover socialized health care. EVERYONE pays those high taxes. I have been all over the world and have seen that "great" socialized medicine that idiot Americans say they want. It is cr@p! You want what Germany has? They have pretty good health care, right? Well, about 55% of EVERYONE'S paycheck is taxed. And then, even then some stuff is just not covered. Yes, wealthy Germans get better health care. How about Canada? Well, my nephew's wife is a nurse in Canada and she comes here for treatment. Up there, you had better have supplemental insurance to pay for ambulance and medications.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, when you are a spoiled American.

Only good thing that could come of gov run socialized medicine in America is that it will put a million lawyers out of work and doctors will not have to purchase malpractice insurance. You won't be able to sue them for malpractice anymore. And that is what makes our health care cost so much anyway.
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:12 AM
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I think that the richest country in the world should provide healthcare and education for all. it is just not right to agree that only rich successful people should be able to afford both.
We do it's called public school and the emergency room.

Why not pay for everyone to get Ph.D.. Then we could invent another level to feed off the working stiffs.
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:14 AM
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Medicare is the crappiest program we have. What a disgrace! You pay for it for 45 years or more before you can use it, and then it only covers hospitalization. Nothing else.. That's got to be a crime.
Medicare parts A and B cover bothhodpital and doctor visits. Should you opt for a Medical policy as well, deductibles and copays are covered as well.
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Old 08-22-2016, 12:19 PM
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The answer to your question is obsene profit in US system of healthcare. There is and has been a feeding frenzy for profit in all areas of medicine. Look around our own home town.
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Yes...the problem with the COST of medicine...is the cost of medicine. EVERYONE connected to the medical field makes too much profit. They literally have your life in their hands, they can charge whatever we'll pay.
Obscene profit??? This just shows a complete lack of understanding of health care costs.
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Old 08-22-2016, 01:59 PM
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The answer to your question is obsene profit in US system of healthcare. There is and has been a feeding frenzy for profit in all areas of medicine. Look around our own home town.
More than that, it's a failure of the system. Patent & Copyright laws, and more importantly big business with bags of money to "our" reps. Nope, they don't represent us. Our system is dying. Only the rich and powerful are represented anymore.
 

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