It still remains that there are only three neo-conservatives posting and reposting to themselves and each other - as if sheer numbers of posts are really going to change the mind of anyone.

The "quotes" of Margaret Sanger are snippets taken out of context by the Live Action group. This is the group that send in actors to create havoc with Planned Parenthood. Those film clips have been edited and recreated to make an interview bogus.

Anyhow, Planned Parenthood is a lot more than abortions. It represents womens health for those who cannot afford a doctor or who cannot get to an affordable doctor.

No amount of edited film clips or snippets of conversational quotes will change the mind of those on the other side. Neither will the same posters just talking trash to each other. It is a free country, though, so do as you wish even though you have been duped by your own bogus history.

Originally Posted by Guest

It still remains that there are only three neo-conservatives posting and reposting to themselves and each other - as if sheer numbers of posts are really going to change the mind of anyone.

The "quotes" of Margaret Sanger are snippets taken out of context by the Live Action group. This is the group that send in actors to create havoc with Planned Parenthood. Those film clips have been edited and recreated to make an interview bogus.

Anyhow, Planned Parenthood is a lot more than abortions. It represents womens health for those who cannot afford a doctor or who cannot get to an affordable doctor.

No amount of edited film clips or snippets of conversational quotes will change the mind of those on the other side. Neither will the same posters just talking trash to each other. It is a free country, though, so do as you wish even though you have been duped by your own bogus history.

Not very well informed. The whole unedited video is available on the internet. Ever heard of Google. I also realize that it won't make a difference to some, because they just don't care. But, don't make up statements that you know are not true. The "bogus" is your same old denial of anything negative against liberals. Must be kind of lonely living in denial.

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BUT....and this is always the BUT on all those things that are suggested be handled by congress......THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID HE WILL VETO IT.

Listen, if the bill is not begun in the WH, it stands not much chance of seeing law.

He has said....you will not touch Planned Parenthood, that bastion of racist organizations.

The greatest handicap and obstacle in America is the useless one currently residing in the White House. He has violated his oath of office by voiding the constitution, makes up his own laws contrary to the majority and is as divisive as Sharpton or Jackson. Are the liberals so unhappy with America that they insist on destroying the American way? He can no longer call the Republicans "obstructionists." It will take some time to correct all the damage he is responsible for in his two terms. He has allowed the vocal minority run amok and handicapped the moral majority in America. I realize that it seems like this is unrelated to the thread, but in reality he will be the one that blocks any action against the disgusting PP criminals. Therefore, he is an accessory to millions of deaths in America. And he is suppose to be the champion for the helpless and minority. And in his delusional mind, he thinks he has been a good president. His own words.

Originally Posted by Guest

Not very well informed. The whole unedited video is available on the internet. Ever heard of Google. I also realize that it won't make a difference to some, because they just don't care. But, don't make up statements that you know are not true. The "bogus" is your same old denial of anything negative against liberals. Must be kind of lonely living in denial.

It is amazing how you and your fellow conservatives have been suckered by Live Action and other fringe lunatic groups.

It is you that are the deniers of truth.

However, as I said, it is impossible to change a closed mind like yours on such a divisive topic. I just pity you for your gross ignorance. 'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is amazing how you and your fellow conservatives have been suckered by Live Action and other fringe lunatic groups.

It is you that are the deniers of truth.

However, as I said, it is impossible to change a closed mind like yours on such a divisive topic. I just pity you for your gross ignorance. 'Nuff said.

We've been "suckered?" "Nuff said" because you have no facts to support your premise that it was us that have been "suckered" and not yourself. You deny facts as conservative conspiracy. How funny, if not sad. We show you undeniable facts and evidence and you counter with innuendos and theory. I applaud your misplaced loyalty to those that have con'd you by defending themselves with accusations of being unjustly persecuted, but the facts are overwhelming. Any intelligent person with even the slightest bit of common sense would surely see the truth. But, it is kind of hard to bite the hand that feeds you, right? Self reliance starts out as a difficult process, and liberal leaders exploit that. Better to be self sufficient and lead than to be dependent and forced to follow. Closed minds?? When's the last time you examined yourself in the mirror? My whole family were Democrats when Democrats were Democratic and some were still conservative also. Those days are long past, because your party (sure you say you are Independent) has gone ultra left where socialism even looks moderate. I have always said that I would vote for a Democrat if he/she was the better of the two candidates. I have yet to find one that I could in good conscience vote for in past elections.
CLOSED MINDS??? Give it a break. Tell me where I am wrong on the issue instead of calling names and blaming Bush.

Originally Posted by Guest

The greatest handicap and obstacle in America is the useless one currently residing in the White House. He has violated his oath of office by voiding the constitution, makes up his own laws contrary to the majority and is as divisive as Sharpton or Jackson. Are the liberals so unhappy with America that they insist on destroying the American way? He can no longer call the Republicans "obstructionists." It will take some time to correct all the damage he is responsible for in his two terms. He has allowed the vocal minority run amok and handicapped the moral majority in America. I realize that it seems like this is unrelated to the thread, but in reality he will be the one that blocks any action against the disgusting PP criminals. Therefore, he is an accessory to millions of deaths in America. And he is suppose to be the champion for the helpless and minority. And in his delusional mind, he thinks he has been a good president. His own words.

The last six years must feel like you are serving a sentence.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is amazing how you and your fellow conservatives have been suckered by Live Action and other fringe lunatic groups.

It is you that are the deniers of truth.

However, as I said, it is impossible to change a closed mind like yours on such a divisive topic. I just pity you for your gross ignorance. 'Nuff said.

Not sure what context you want...very simply using Wiki, and of course that will not work for you so I strongly suggest reading one of the number of books about here, or just read history.


First, she was an anarchist.....

" Sanger, collaborating with anarchist friends, popularized the term "birth control" as a more candid alternative to euphemisms such as "family limitation"[ as "family limitation"[

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

I have no doubt her heart was true and her purpose well intended but to deny her politics is silly.

Then I suggest you do more reading and I think you will find her attitude to minorities and those she considered second class citizens, like aborigines, was demeaning. This is not made up.

I then remind you that she was greatly admired and idolized by one Hillary Clinton. Ms Clinton does make a habit of admiring anarchists (see Sanger, Alinsky a a number of others)

Originally Posted by Guest

The last six years must feel like you are serving a sentence.

Actually, the last six years have been quite an education for me, and a warning as to "what can happen"

When our President was elected, I worried not that much. I had confidence in what our founding fathers had put together. Three branches of government with mant checks and balances.

I never in my wildest dreams considered how a President and a leader of the senate could take over the country. See how the Affordable Care Act was ramrod dead through, manipulating the congress to pass costly and far reaching legislation without consultation, not only with the opposition, but with his own party and to pass it without reading.

I never even considered his race to be a factor, nor felt he would use the bully pulpit to support criminal activity in the name of racial justice. To ignore the law and make Herod of criminals, along with diminishing respect for those who are sworn to uphold the law he ignores.

These are two huge social impacts I could not imagine, but am certainly aware of now.

I read of his training and background but worried not, until he and Harry Reid showed us how to manipulate the congress in unintended ways.

I never felt any President would simply ignore the law of the land. I felt he would need to at least speak to congress on laws, but it appears that you do not need to do that.

While I knew he was a great politician, so many great politicians before him, left that part behind them and became statesman. He has shown that in your face pure politics can be done,at a severe price but it can be done.

No, the last six years have shown me that perhaps the background is important and that trusting someone who "sells"hope can turn out so wrong.

Originally Posted by Guest

Not sure what context you want...very simply using Wiki, and of course that will not work for you so I strongly suggest reading one of the number of books about here, or just read history.


First, she was an anarchist.....

" Sanger, collaborating with anarchist friends, popularized the term "birth control" as a more candid alternative to euphemisms such as "family limitation"[ as "family limitation"[

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

I have no doubt her heart was true and her purpose well intended but to deny her politics is silly.

Then I suggest you do more reading and I think you will find her attitude to minorities and those she considered second class citizens, like aborigines, was demeaning. This is not made up.

I then remind you that she was greatly admired and idolized by one Hillary Clinton. Ms Clinton does make a habit of admiring anarchists (see Sanger, Alinsky a a number of others)

Good post

Originally Posted by Guest

Actually, the last six years have been quite an education for me, and a warning as to "what can happen"

When our President was elected, I worried not that much. I had confidence in what our founding fathers had put together. Three branches of government with mant checks and balances.

I never in my wildest dreams considered how a President and a leader of the senate could take over the country. See how the Affordable Care Act was ramrod dead through, manipulating the congress to pass costly and far reaching legislation without consultation, not only with the opposition, but with his own party and to pass it without reading.

I never even considered his race to be a factor, nor felt he would use the bully pulpit to support criminal activity in the name of racial justice. To ignore the law and make Herod of criminals, along with diminishing respect for those who are sworn to uphold the law he ignores.

These are two huge social impacts I could not imagine, but am certainly aware of now.

I read of his training and background but worried not, until he and Harry Reid showed us how to manipulate the congress in unintended ways.

I never felt any President would simply ignore the law of the land. I felt he would need to at least speak to congress on laws, but it appears that you do not need to do that.

While I knew he was a great politician, so many great politicians before him, left that part behind them and became statesman. He has shown that in your face pure politics can be done,at a severe price but it can be done.

No, the last six years have shown me that perhaps the background is important and that trusting someone who "sells"hope can turn out so wrong.

Excellent

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The last six years must feel like you are serving a sentence.

Nope, I'm doing great, in spite of liberal tyranny. And I can honestly say that not one thing this administration has done in the past 5+ years is responsible for it. How about you?

Originally Posted by Guest

Nope, I'm doing great, in spite of liberal tyranny. And I can honestly say that not one thing this administration has done in the past 5+ years is responsible for it. How about you? [emoji14]opcorn:

I made it through Carter, and I made it through W. So I guess I could say that I'm feelin alright. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Guest

I made it through Carter, and I made it through W. So I guess I could say that I'm feelin alright. Thanks.

At the age of most posters on here, I can see that,

It is your children and grandchildren that are and have been "thrown under the bus" both in terms of law and economics.

Carter and Bush made mistakes that Presidents make, albeit depending on how you feel, relatively worse.

President Obama has struck at the very fiber of the country, the very thing that ALL parties should honor....the rule of law....the rule of advise and consent.

THAT is not going to go away quickly......

Originally Posted by Guest

At the age of most posters on here, I can see that,

It is your children and grandchildren that are and have been "thrown under the bus" both in terms of law and economics.

Carter and Bush made mistakes that Presidents make, albeit depending on how you feel, relatively worse.

President Obama has struck at the very fiber of the country, the very thing that ALL parties should honor....the rule of law....the rule of advise and consent.

THAT is not going to go away quickly......

Adding to that, he has sadly, NOT helped the racial divide nor the economic divide. He has, in fact, set both of those problems back many many years.

Making it through or surviving one president or another is poetic commentary (not intended to be negative).

To me the issue is the state of the country as a result of a given president. And for that Obama has done more harm to this country than any president in modern times.

Ignores the law of the land and the constitution to further his agenda.
Has created racial havoc and set back the gains against racism many, many years.
He has emasulated the US military.
He has made the USA a laughing matter in the rest of the world.
He has allowed the immigration sunami to grow and severly burden our economy.
He has made deals with the enemies of the USA to further his agenda.
He has no concept of leadership and has abandoned the frontline leadership of the military.

He is a phony in your face, egomaniac racist of the highest order.