Originally Posted by Guest

Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

Yeah, Happy Solstice! And I bet it's closer than we can imagine. Da** liberal atheists that can't stand anyone being happy or content with live. They are a miserable lot, for sure.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do not take that bet !!!

"If I had my druthers, Christmas would not be a federal holiday. It’s a no-brainer. The First Amendment categorically states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Clearly, designating the date upon which Christians observe the birth of their messiah as a federal holiday is making a law respecting an establishment of religion, and placing governmental weight behind Christianity.

Would I have U.S. citizens forgo end-of-the-year festivals or miss out on a federal day off? Not for the world. I would propose one of two remedies. Option 1: Rename Dec. 25 something secular, like “Family Day.” Uruguay has long celebrated Dec. 25 as Dia de la Familia. Option 2: Make Dec. 21 (the winter solstice), not Dec. 25 (Christmas), the federal holiday. The shortest, darkest day of the year is already a natural holiday, so why not make it a federal holiday as well?"

Let'''s Observe Dec. 25, but Not as Christmas - NYTimes.com

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...acc_story.html

I was pleasantly stunned when I moved to The Villages and saw how far they go to celebrate. And the rest of the country wonders why they are so miserable. Atheist hate to see anyone happy. Too bad they won't just move to another country, like a Muslim or Communist country where the Christian religion is banned.

Originally Posted by Guest

Do not take that bet !!!

"If I had my druthers, Christmas would not be a federal holiday. It’s a no-brainer. The First Amendment categorically states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Clearly, designating the date upon which Christians observe the birth of their messiah as a federal holiday is making a law respecting an establishment of religion, and placing governmental weight behind Christianity.

Would I have U.S. citizens forgo end-of-the-year festivals or miss out on a federal day off? Not for the world. I would propose one of two remedies. Option 1: Rename Dec. 25 something secular, like “Family Day.” Uruguay has long celebrated Dec. 25 as Dia de la Familia. Option 2: Make Dec. 21 (the winter solstice), not Dec. 25 (Christmas), the federal holiday. The shortest, darkest day of the year is already a natural holiday, so why not make it a federal holiday as well?"

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...t-as-christmas

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...acc_story.html

1) Even if you don't go to church and praise God for sending his son as our savior, you can watch for Santa Claus and plan your battle strategy for the retail stores on Dec 26th

2) Who gives a rat's turd what "Muslim Community Leaders" want---they can make a U-turn, head right back to their third world desert $___hole and spout out all the crap they want

Obama invited all those gays and deviates to the White House because he didn't want to face the Pope as the lone gay in attendance.

Originally Posted by Guest

It was NOT a few, the Church said it was just in the US....it was worldwide. Even the Pope's best friend was doing little boys. It was and still is a problem in the church.

I just reached a point at which I could not follow....

Ah please don't be so naieve as to limiit the practice to the church. The church happens to get the focus because it is an agenda item for somebody. And as long as there are males in any group there will always be a few disturbed folks that "do boys" while the same hypocrites promote it being OK for the guys to be doing it to each other.

It needs to be put back in the closet instead of being treated as if a major segment of the population has been freed. Gays and "all others" are a minority group that happens to have the support of the government and the media.

The whole subject seems a little queer to me!

Originally Posted by Guest

Ah please don't be so naieve as to limiit the practice to the church. The church happens to get the focus because it is an agenda item for somebody. And as long as there are males in any group there will always be a few disturbed folks that "do boys" while the same hypocrites promote it being OK for the guys to be doing it to each other.

It needs to be put back in the closet instead of being treated as if a major segment of the population has been freed. Gays and "all others" are a minority group that happens to have the support of the government and the media.

The whole subject seems a little queer to me!

Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

Originally Posted by Guest

Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

The Bible states that God hates the sin and loves the sinner. Atheists have a choice, believe or not to believe. It's their choice. Christianity believes that atheist are condemned to eternal damnation. But, it's not the Christian's fault if one declines salvation. It's their free choice. It's not the Christians blame.

It's probably better if one does not delve deep into religion in a political forum, other than the issue. Obama's disrespecting the Pope is more of a personal affront than a religious issue. Even if the Pope DOES represent a major Christian faith.
Apparently, the Vatican is a bit worried that these weirdos/freaks will attempt to get their photos taken with the Pope and the Vatican does not want this to appear like the Pope endorses their deviant behavior.
Obama, the Muslim is blatantly disrespecting the Pope's position by inviting these "sinners" to the Pope's visit, knowing that they will not be there to be converted or forgiven, but to disrupt the visit and make a mockery of it.
Obama is still acting like a petulant child, that wants attention. He is a very poor representation for America, shaming us all.

Originally Posted by Guest

Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

Luther???? As in Martin Luther? Or did you mean Lucifer???

If it's Martin Luther that is being referred to, is that a bad thing? I guess it could be, depending on how you look at it. Seems like a better example of a negative could have been utilized.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

On this point I would have to disagree....I used Happy Holidays when I don't know the religion of the person. If I do its Merry Christmas.

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


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Originally Posted by Guest

On this point I would have to disagree....I used Happy Holidays when I don't know the religion of the person. If I do its Merry Christmas.

Hmm, I guess some folks are so worried about PC that they fail to realize that the holiday IS Christ's birthday and we shouldn't be ashamed of referring to it with the traditional Merry Christmas. I'm not ashamed of it and many of my Jewish friends return the same salutation. I also try to remember their holidays so that I can greet them appropriately. That's my option. Just because some folks don't believe, does not make it taboo to greet each other during a holiday with the proper greeting. In my opinion, politically correct would dictate to THEM that they should take the initiative and greet me with my preference of greetings. PC works both ways, not just aimed at boosting up the liberal. I am sensitive to others and their feelings but find it sanctimonious for them to feel that I should change my religious practice to satisfy their non-belief. They have their right NOT to believe in anything, and I have my right to practice my religion as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Being cheerful, charitable and thankful during religious holidays is hardly harming anyone else, and I have no intention of changing for them. It won't change how they feel, so why should I care?

Originally Posted by Guest

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


Personal Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards

Good post!

Originally Posted by Guest

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


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President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!