I think Obama should take a look at Massachusetts and look at there Heath Care system its just like the one he wants to pass now. They are broke and are always asking the government for more to bail it out. I think it time to get rid of this guy and impeach him and get the country back where it belongs, in the peoples hands and not the Governments.

Bucco:

The 'card' that was referred to in the stuff I was reading earlier is apparently referenced in this article: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...,2577801.story

A new proposal has been pushed by Sens. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham, (R-S.C.). There is no bill yet, but the White House has endorsed the initial framework.

The plan would require biometric Social Security cards to ensure that illegal workers cannot get jobs; added border security; a temporary-worker plan and some path to legalization.

The immigration reform issue has been politically difficult for the White House.

In a statement, President Obama praised Schumer and Graham, saying he was pleased to see their "promising, bipartisan framework, which can and should be the basis for moving forward. It thoughtfully addresses the need to shore up our borders and demands accountability from both workers who are here illegally and employers who game the system."

Latinos, in particular, have criticized the Obama administration's record on enforcement as the number of deportations of undocumented immigrants increased 5% -- to 387,790 in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2009. Nearly two-thirds of those removals involved non-criminals.

And note the Latinos saying they don't like the stepped up enforcement resulting in more deportations. This flies inthe face of the "Obama wants amnesty for illegals" rhetoric. It's the exact same thing as people saying Obama wants to nationalize all industry, despite the fact that the government is preparing to divest itself of the General Motors. The facts don't seem to matter to some.

I guess it hits me harder because the justification is "well, we know what they're THINKING" - abd I just went through a crapload of that in my divorce - no matter what my action were, I *must* have been thinking SOMEthing more devious.

OK, I get it. Because of Obama's background with shady people and the takeover of 20% of our economy I am not supposed to thinK of devious happenings. Right. Now pass the Kool Aid please.

Originally Posted by djplong

Bucco:

The 'card' that was referred to in the stuff I was reading earlier is apparently referenced in this article: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...,2577801.story



And note the Latinos saying they don't like the stepped up enforcement resulting in more deportations. This flies inthe face of the "Obama wants amnesty for illegals" rhetoric. It's the exact same thing as people saying Obama wants to nationalize all industry, despite the fact that the government is preparing to divest itself of the General Motors. The facts don't seem to matter to some.

I guess it hits me harder because the justification is "well, we know what they're THINKING" - abd I just went through a crapload of that in my divorce - no matter what my action were, I *must* have been thinking SOMEthing more devious.

Your defense of the President is noted, but I only know what he has done.....he said no pork EVER on his watch (A very silly thing to say) then IMMEDIATELY signed the so called stimulus bill which as time goes on we find was about 70% social programs. I only know that he is leading us into health care ONLY after BUYING votes to get it passed and would have used trickery if necessary....I only know he has lied many times in ONLY ONE YEAR...not the campaign type words that cant be fullfilled...but REAL CHANGE and promises that he just ignores and fluffs of when reminded. I only know that he ran on the premise that he would take politics out of WASH and he has been without any doubt whatsoever, the single most political President in my lifetime.

For the record I never once used what you refer to as ""Obama wants amnesty for illegals" rhetoric."....I simply added one note in my post that he supported citizenship for illegal immigrants...only time will tell what that might mean.

You can believe in this man......I dont...and each day I believe even less. He is very comfortable with what we have in congress leading the nation and obviously you are also. I cannot be comfortable with him.

I also would love to see a real press conference !

Originally Posted by mrdills

I think Obama should take a look at Massachusetts and look at there Heath Care system its just like the one he wants to pass now. They are broke and are always asking the government for more to bail it out. I think it time to get rid of this guy and impeach him and get the country back where it belongs, in the peoples hands and not the Governments.

I am afraid that if this entitlement bill passes, that this could be the beginning of the end for our grandchildren's way of life. This could be the first generation that was not better off then the one before it.