buggyone, we are so advanced and progressive now that the vitriol over Chick-Fil-A has resulted in the heart attack and death of its public relations head in Atlanta...there is so much visciousness and deviseness and lack of human decency and respect for others' beliefs that our entire society is probably too far gone to ever regain what we once cherished as Americans. you see this as welcome progress? sorry, i do not. and it is the relentless push of liberalism to destroy our religious and traditional values that has brought this all on. i don't know why i bother looking at these posts!

Originally Posted by janmcn

Apparently the tea party had a very productive meeting last night.

I wonder if they are serving tea...............or is it Kool Aide.

Originally Posted by buggyone

There was no mocking or ridicule in my post. It was fact. The viewpoints put forth by the Tea Party and the "I see a communist everywhere in government" posters (i.e. John Birchers) are regressive back to the thinking and ideas of the 1950's Joe McCarthy era.

The USA is a country that is forward thinking instead of going backwards.

Ahh yes - the fifties! What a great time for a white man. No civil rights troubles - they knew their place; never heard about homosexuals - the word gay meant happy! Pre- women's lib - women wore bras (which were unmentionables). Of course marginal tax rates were much much higher than today, but those were good times!

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You obviously have zero knowledge about the Tea Party and thus your post is just ignorant of any substance.

The bigotry here is yours alone.

No bigotry on my part. Just facts. One poster titled her post "Give me the 50's anytime." That is regressive thinking. Can you disprove that? Some Tea Party people want to take the country back in time 50 or 60 years. We have to move FORWARD.

I have a decent knowledge of the Tea Party. I copied a good link you should read and it is from the Tea Party. Look at all the subjects on it. Does not look like the kind of political affiliation I would belong to ever.
Tea Party Patriots - Official Home of the American Tea Party Movement

Eweissenbach has some good memories of the '50's. I remember being in grade school and having air raid drills, later people had bomb shelters in their basements - and Joe McCarthy was raging about Communists in Hollywood and the State Department.

Ah, yes, those were the days!

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Ahh yes - the fifties! What a great time for a white man. No civil rights troubles - they knew their place; never heard about homosexuals - the word gay meant happy! Pre- women's lib - women wore bras (which were unmentionables). Of course marginal tax rates were much much higher than today, but those were good times!

And that is just the way simple minded, right wing, religious fanatics wanted it and are trying so hard to return to the control of the Rich White Man. They are so like the Muslim extremist that they fear so much. I am not talking to anyone directly, so please show me the same courtesy.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

And that is just the way simple minded, right wing, religious fanatics wanted it and are trying so hard to return to the control of the Rich White Man. They are so like the Muslim extremist that they fear so much. I am not talking to anyone directly, so please show me the same courtesy.

OK, I am not talking to you directly.

This is just to the general public out there, and not directed to you.

To compare the religious right to Muslim extremists by anybody, is one of the most ignorant ideas I've heard to date. It's backed up by no logic at all, IMHO.

Now, if we were talking about the religious left, there might be a better argument. The religious left has been virtually subjugating and devaluing minorities in this country for years, by cheating them of their own sense of self worth by urging them to be dependent on the state.

Originally Posted by buggyone

No bigotry on my part. Just facts. One poster titled her post "Give me the 50's anytime." That is regressive thinking. Can you disprove that? Some Tea Party people want to take the country back in time 50 or 60 years. We have to move FORWARD.

I have a decent knowledge of the Tea Party. I copied a good link you should read and it is from the Tea Party. Look at all the subjects on it. Does not look like the kind of political affiliation I would belong to ever.
Tea Party Patriots - Official Home of the American Tea Party Movement

Eweissenbach has some good memories of the '50's. I remember being in grade school and having air raid drills, later people had bomb shelters in their basements - and Joe McCarthy was raging about Communists in Hollywood and the State Department.

Ah, yes, those were the days!

I don't know. I grew up in the inner city in the fifties and went to school with many minorities. All my friends in school who were of minority status had both a mother and father at home, with the father generally being the breadwinner just like in my family. Every Sunday I saw them with their families in the same church I went to.

Now because of the influence of the liberal factions of this country in trying to provide everything to all people, over 70% of minority children grow up in single parent homes.

Is this your improved new world?

You can have it. You earned it.

Maybe your right and they should be ashamed of themselves for being poor or being born a minority. I just Disagree with that way of thinking.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

OK, I am not talking to you directly.

This is just to the general public out there, and not directed to you.

To compare the religious right to Muslim extremists by anybody, is one of the most ignorant ideas I've heard to date. It's backed up by no logic at all, IMHO.

Now, if we were talking about the religious left, there might be a better argument. The religious left has been virtually subjugating and devaluing minorities in this country for years, by cheating them of their own sense of self worth by urging them to be dependent on the state.

What is the "religious left"? Could it be the churches that give aid and comfort to the poor?

Good point,

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Statistics show that same sex marriages last longer than traditional marriages.

Could you please cite your authority here? Is there a possibility that same sex relationships are more tolerate of their partners wandering off. Are Rosie O'donnell and ellen DeGeneris examples of your affirmative statement?

Originally Posted by buggyone

I don't think that Lucca Brazzi or Tony Soprano is going to get a job over this matter.

I do not care to hear the regressive natterings of the tea party nor of the John Birchers. The USA is a forward thinking country and we do not need to go back to the 1950's.

buggyone: Perhaps we do need to go back to the 1950's. You have swallowed hook line and sinker the propaganda being promoted by Marsahll Kirk and Erastes Pill in their November 1987 missive " Overhauling Straight America" a missive posted on this forum in the past by one of its members. It is too lengthy to quote here by pont by point. It is being implemented for instance in Hollywood's portrays of gay and gay realtionships and frequency in every movie, sitcom reality show etc and it is done being for the obvous reason to make it seem allso normal and all american. It is against military code to have the military in uniform participate in anything by military ceremonies yet uniformed military participated in the Gay Pride complements of....... It just shows you how far this propaganda has spread and the pressure being placed on politicians in this country. Politicians with no backbone by the way

There are not many things that can get the hairs on the back of my neck to stand up but this issue is one. CHACHACHA was spot on with her post. You seem to forget it is "Adam and Eve" not "Adam and Evan". To define marriage as anything other than between a man and a woman is going to open a pandora's box as to other claims to be made. This great nation was built on family as a unit. Statistics have shown that children do better being reared by a mother and a father.

I am not buying into a gay lifesyle as normal and just an alternative lifestyle. It is unnatural and whether it is a child of mine or not I will not accept them sleeping side by side with a member of the same sex. Its wrong wrong wrong.

Originally Posted by rubicon

buggyone: Perhaps we do need to go back to the 1950's. You have swallowed hook line and sinker the propaganda being promoted by Marsahll Kirk and Erastes Pill in their November 1987 missive " Overhauling Straight America" a missive posted on this forum in the past by one of its members. It is too lengthy to quote here by pont by point. It is being implemented for instance in Hollywood's portrays of gay and gay realtionships and frequency in every movie, sitcom reality show etc and it is done being for the obvous reason to make it seem allso normal and all american. It is against military code to have the military in uniform participate in anything by military ceremonies yet uniformed military participated in the Gay Pride complements of....... It just shows you how far this propaganda has spread and the pressure being placed on politicians in this country. Politicians with no backbone by the way

There are not many things that can get the hairs on the back of my neck to stand up but this issue is one. CHACHACHA was spot on with her post. You seem to forget it is "Adam and Eve" not "Adam and Evan". To define marriage as anything other than between a man and a woman is going to open a pandora's box as to other claims to be made. This great nation was built on family as a unit. Statistics have shown that children do better being reared by a mother and a father.

I am not buying into a gay lifesyle as normal and just an alternative lifestyle. It is unnatural and whether it is a child of mine or not I will not accept them sleeping side by side with a member of the same sex. Its wrong wrong wrong.

Yes Rubi, back to the fifties when straight white men were firmly in control.