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Old 04-30-2011, 11:36 PM
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Canada produces 3.3 million barrells a day and consumes 2.2 million barrells.They produce more than they use yet the price og gas has also gone up in Canada. Canada with its vast resources and small population can't drill its way out of price runups because they are also chained to the global oil marketplace. And so are we. We cannot drill our way out.
In Canada, on average, about one-third of the total price of gas at the pump is tax. Ditto for Europe. Believe tax on gas is less in US than one-third of price so it's not an apples to apples argument.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:10 PM
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Gee Richie how do you feel about the president of the united states now that osama bin laden has been KILLED UNDER HIS WATCH!!! And by the way I voted twice for reagan twice,and tricky dick twice.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:17 PM
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Gee Richie how do you feel about the president of the united states now that osama bin laden has been KILLED UNDER HIS WATCH!!! And by the way I voted twice for reagan twice,and tricky dick twice.
Welcome! We hope to see more of you around here. It feels good to come over from the dark side!

Of course, Richie won't think so.

Xavier
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:27 PM
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Gee Richie how do you feel about the president of the united states now that osama bin laden has been KILLED UNDER HIS WATCH!!! And by the way I voted twice for reagan twice,and tricky dick twice.
I'm glad bin Laden was taken out on anybody's watch and the President as Commander-in-Chief certainly gets credit.

If you are what you say you are why are you trying to bait me? Did you also get tingly sensations down your leg?
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:34 AM
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I am what I say I am A tried and true " Independent" I also voted for obama and am very proud of that for now.Two years from now we'll see what happens,might have to go back to the dark side again.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:50 AM
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I am what I say I am A tried and true " Independent" I also voted for obama and am very proud of that for now.Two years from now we'll see what happens,might have to go back to the dark side again.
Oh, so you do get the tinglies. Well good for you. Independent to me means "Which way is the wind blowing". I'm sure we'll talk more. You do have an interesting way of introducing yourself.

I'm glad Obama gave the order, but Obama is still a socialist.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:31 AM
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Default Don't like to post here but crimes against logic deserve mention

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I'd like to share an analytical article that I read in the American Thinker, which was written by James V. Capua who, among other things served at the U.S. Department of Education under then Secretary William Bennett. He also served as Vice President of the Institute for Educational Affairs, and also as Special Assistant to the Chancellor and Assistant Professor of history at the University of Rochester.

He describes the Obama strategy as a seemingly classic Marxist one. Creating what Marxists call "internal contradictions". Evidenced by our race to $5.00 a gallon gasoline and Obama's relentless campaign against increased domestic oil and energy production, and the administrations huge and continuing push for greater command and control not withstanding their sound defeat in the mid-term elections.

Then there is his redefining of our foreign policy and defense policies irregardless of past alliances, coupled with an embrace of fringe utopian ideas of an "internationalist order".

He also relates what he describes as a "Cold War" strategy of "talk talk, fight fight". The talk element of the strategy is to waste time and to hide their maneuvers, and then to divide the opposition and to divert attention to decoy issues. Then there is the "fight" element of the strategy which can be executive and fiscal measures calculated to bring the nation to such a high state of anxiety that the electoral majority is unwilling to change presidents.

I hope you find it as fascinating and thought provoking as I did.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/..._strategy.html
I wouldn't characterize the linked article as "analytical". Political, yes. Polemic, yes. Well reasoned, no. It contained false dichotomies, false and/or unsubstantiated statements and allegations, and vague and meaningless generalities among other "crimes against logic".

I'm not an Obama fan. But it is simply inaccurate to say that that he "campaigned relentlessly against domestic energy production". Sorry. The article then uses this inaccuracy and calls it an "internal contradiction" in the face of rising gas prices. And then argues that internal contradictions are evidence of Marxism.

Hmm. Let's use some analogies to analyze both "internal contradictions" and the Marxist leap. Personally, I'm in favor of domestic drilling. However, those who oppose it do so for reasons other than the rise and fall of gas prices. To make their case against drilling for completely other reasons, and then support drilling when the price of gas fluctuates, would be an "internal contradiction". To be "pro life" and pro death penalty could be deemed an "internal contradiction"-- even though it's certainly understandable and respectable to hold both views. To be adamantly tough on crime but want compassion for a wayward loved one is an "internal contradiction," but doesn't make someone a Marxist. To want to slash federal jobs but "not in my district" is an "internal contradiction" but certainly doesn't make Speaker Boehner a Marxist.

So against "domestic energy production" (not true) = internal contradiction = evidence of Marxism.

Sounds good-- 'til you think about it.

Redefining our foreign policy and defense policies (regardless) of past alliances? Although our stated foreign policy has always been about promoting freedom around the world, in other ways, Obama as well as other U.S. presidents have done so without a doubt. For example, we supported, then opposed, Noriega. We on-again and then gratefully off-again at times aided former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. We opposed, normalized relations with and opposed again Gaddafi. Obama can be faulted with having a foreign policy at odds with his campaign, though the article doesn't address this.

"Coupled with embrace of fringe utopian ideas of an 'internationalist order'"? Gee, that sort of calls for some backup content. What fringe utopian ideas specifically. What "internationalist order" ? The former President stated that he hoped democracy movements would break out in the Middle East. Is that a, "utopian internationalist order"? Without supplying supporting evidence, this is not analysis but merely political rhetoric.

The "talk, talk; fight, fight" line sounds like (a) both party's political playbook; (b) the high school cheer leading squad; (c) all of the above. Polemicists used to argue equally without substantiation that the former administration raised terror alert levels to increase the anxiety level so the electorate wouldn't change horses. (And BTW, talk radio could be described as "talk, talk," but what of it?)

I do agree the article was fascinating, especially it's placement in The American Thinker. Like so many political articles on both sides of the fence, it seems to be targeted primarily to people who don't think critically for themselves.

If, as Richie stated,
"...the brilliant analysis of the article speaks for itself in illustrating the correlation of Obama's actions with tried and true marxist principles that anyone with a brain can follow"
Then I must throw my lot with Scarecrow, go to the Wizard and plead, "If I only had a brain"!
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:49 PM
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Pturner; I think if you research Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Racicals", you'll have a better idea of the impetus behind the article.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:13 PM
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Pturner; I think if you research Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Racicals", you'll have a better idea of the impetus behind the article.
That's all you got?
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:39 PM
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That's all you got?
Obama's inspirational mentor Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" is not enough?
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:43 PM
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I went to the web page for The American Thnker and just about puked. It is filled with more racist garbage than I have seen in 40 years. If that is where Richie's article came from, Richie should be ashamed of using that as a source. Richie, you know better than to read that tripe. I know that Villagers are not racist people but are open and accepting of all races.

Go to this link, Richie and others, and tell me if you think it is just a racist diatribe. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...lave_ship.html

If I am terribly wrong about your character, please, let's cancel our congratulatory Yeunglings (for either person) come November. If not, I look forward to you buying me a couple of beers.
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pturner,that might be the best response to a post I have ever read. No name calling or bashing just a great rebuttal to a slanted post. Thanks
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:58 PM
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Obama's inspirational mentor Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" is not enough?
... and that's your response to Pturner's seriously thought out and accurately worded piece. Then you have nothing. It's no secret now. Gladstone (see below) was spot on.

Xavier
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:11 PM
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Default I think you're on to

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I went to the web page for The American Thnker and just about puked. It is filled with more racist garbage than I have seen in 40 years. If that is where Richie's article came from, Richie should be ashamed of using that as a source. Richie, you know better than to read that tripe. I know that Villagers are not racist people but are open and accepting of all races.

Go to this link, Richie and others, and tell me if you think it is just a racist diatribe. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...lave_ship.html

If I am wrong about your feelings of race, please, let's cancel our congratulatory Yeunglings (for either person) come November. If not, I look forward to you buying me a couple of beers.
something. That website is filled with racist garbage, and anyone who quotes it or uses it to argue a point has a serious problem.
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:19 PM
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Default The Real Credit

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I'm glad bin Laden was taken out on anybody's watch and the President as Commander-in-Chief certainly gets credit.

If you are what you say you are why are you trying to bait me? Did you also get tingly sensations down your leg?
The guy that should really get the credit is the Seal who put the little red dot on Osama's left eye and then squeezed one off.
 

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