The democrats have done enough damage, thank you. It will take many years and many bill reversals to set us on course again, if it isn't too late.

If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

This current regime does nothing but blame and throw people under the bus. He apologizes for the greatest Nation in history and claims we are not exceptional. Tell that to the older people in Europe whom we saved in WWII.

Angiefox10~ Get past the "name calling"! Can you not respond to the most valuable point in the post by Villagegolfer?

Originally Posted by waynet;38***4

If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

He has done nothing to contain spending. He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!
What he has done is run up the debt. He and his party have spent like drunken sailors!! I believe that is what will take years to reverse...for starts.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I'm not upset at all Angie, just continuing the conversation. Obama had 2 years with unassailable dominance with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. The Republicans could hardly get a word in edgewise. Obama did get things accomplished, just nothing to advance "the state of the union", which was my premise.

Obama has accomplished things in service to his vision of the new progressive socialist state he is working to create and shove down the throat of the American people in direct violation of our Constitutional protections; and in effect, that is how he is damaging the state of the union.

You want more Democrats?; you don't think the country has been damaged enough?

Naw... I didn't think you would be... That's why I was messing with you. I wouldn't do it if I really thought it would upset you.

As to your concerns. The way I see it is the debt came from previous wars from Bush. When Mr. Bush took office, we had a surplus. After two wars we were in debt. I didn't think Mr. Obama would be able to get us out of debt in the short amount of time that he was in. I don't think he is trying to get us to become a "socialist state" but I do think he went about the Health Care issue all wrong. I also think his time was miss directed, he should have spent that time on jobs. In that I agree....

As to our problems now... I am very upset with the republicans. When they walk out on job plans that they created because Mr. Obama says they are good. I'm sorry... I take issue with that! And then to top it off with the last debacle concerning the Debt Ceiling. It was a dangerous game they played that isn't playing out well.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks...&asset=&ccode=

"Since July 21, the market has gone from one crisis to another, and the weakening U.S. economy has been at the heart of the selling. In late July, the concern was the debt debate going on in Washington. In early August, it was the downgrade of the U.S. debt rating by Standard & Poor's. Since then, worries about the impact of the downgrade have faded, and growing evidence that the economy is slowing has driven stocks down."

It really seems to me that the Republicans are trying to sabotage Mr. Obama and they don't care who they hurt to do it. It doesn't make me want to vote for any one of them. You see... That's my 401 K they are messing with and as I've said over and over again.. I'm not a party person... I'm in this for me.

Does that answer your question?

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas;38***5

Angiefox10~ Get past the "name calling"! Can you not respond to the most valuable point in the post by Villagegolfer?

Did he ask me a question?

Originally Posted by waynet;38***4

If you keep saying that he has done nothing then why will it take years for your boys to erase his agenda and many years and many bill reversals?

I stand corrected. He has done nothing good. Okay?

Originally Posted by angiefox10

Did he ask me a question?

Oh, I thought this was an intelligent discussion, where each person responds to important points that the other makes. Did he ask you to comment on his know nothing adjective?

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas;38***8

He has done nothing to contain spending. He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!
What he has done is run up the debt. He and his party have spent like drunken sailors!! I believe that is what will take years to reverse...for starts.

I'm not sure where the idea that Mr. Obama didn't submit a budget came from but that is not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Un...federal_budget

As to spending... Would much of our spending be going to wars?

http://www.federalbudget.com/

I realize you weren't talking to me and my apologies to the poster you were speaking to. I just had the answers to this and I'm sure you would want to know the truth so you don't make statements that aren't true in the future. I know I would....

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Oh, I thought this was an intelligent discussion, where each person responds to important points that the other makes. Did he ask you to comment on his know nothing adjective?

Was everyone supposed to respond to EVERY point?

Clearly there is a point YOU would like to make... Why don't YOU make it.

Originally Posted by angiefox10

I'm not sure where the idea that Mr. Obama didn't submit a budget came from but that is not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Un...federal_budget

As to spending... Would much of our spending be going to wars?

http://www.federalbudget.com/

I realize you weren't talking to me and my apologies to the poster you were speaking to. I just had the answers to this and I'm sure you would want to know the truth so you don't make statements that aren't true in the future. I know I would....

I did not say that he did not submit a budget..."He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!"

As far as spending going to wars...Obama not only didn't get us out of Iraq (as he promised in his campaign), but he took us into an additional war in Libya!

Originally Posted by angiefox10

Was everyone supposed to respond to EVERY point?

Clearly there is a point YOU would like to make... Why don't YOU make it.

No, I don't know of any rules that requires everyone to respond to EVERY point. I think my point is, I am just surprised that a person who uses so many empassioned font sizes and styles, went for the easy point...

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

I did not say that he did not submit a budget..."He has not even put a budget into action, including the first 2 years when there were no Republicans to stop him from doing what is required of him, the Senate and the House!"

As far as spending going to wars...Obama not only didn't get us out of Iraq (as he promised in his campaign), but he took us into an additional war in Libya!

And THERE we agree.... He said he would and he didn't!

Originally Posted by angiefox10

And THERE we agree.... He said he would and he didn't!

Originally Posted by angiefox10

As to your concerns. The way I see it is the debt came from previous wars from Bush. When Mr. Bush took office, we had a surplus. After two wars we were in debt. I didn't think Mr. Obama would be able to get us out of debt in the short amount of time that he was in.

"The way you see it" is way wrong Angie. Obama racked up more debt in one year than Bush did in 5 years. Numbers.......the bane of the leftist.

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