Originally Posted by dklassen

Give me break. Obama wouldn't know what end of a gun to pick up. He's nothing but a narcissistic man child. He disdains the military and was against virtually all the covert tactics that ultimately lead to OBL's capture. Everyone knows he had to be dragged into making the go call. Obama's administration is so inept they can't even keep our military secrets. He's a whining little blame game baby who doesn't know crap about the military and won't take one ounce of responsibility for anything unless it's politically expedient for him. He makes me sick as does anyone who's dumb enough to vote for him a second time.

Mitt Romney would already have us bombing Iran, if he were president, under the tutelage of his advisors, John Bolton and all the other neo-cons from the Bush administration. And where did Romney get his military experience? Was it prancing around France during the Viet Nam war trying to convert people to his Morman faith?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

At this point it's pure insanity to say there's not much difference between The Amateur and Mitt Romney.

Check on Villages Kahuna's various posts about the differences between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. They look like they will be quite similar with how they actually deal with the economy as well as with foreign affairs. Most of the other really important issues like gay rights, abortion, etc. are handled by the States.

I cannot see them doing all that much with the current Tax Code. It will just keep having the various loopholes clever lawyers can manipulate for their rich corporate and individual clients.

Obama's recent move on the road to citizenship for many kids and adults now in the US illegally is a bold one but I see it more as a move to get votes than any carefully planned out policy.

All I am really saying is that both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are politicians who will do whatever they can to help the economy. Most of the people in the US though will fare just as well under Barack Obama as they will under Mitt Romney.

There was not any real change by the Barack Obama administration as he had promised in the 2008 election. He took on the powers that be in Washington but basically became the same kind of politician to get things done. That seems like the standard course in DC. Mitt Romney has played the same kind of game with his politics. He changes his positions to get things done and keep some kind of party support.

There could be a significant development if new Supreme Court Justice appointed by Mitt Romney overturn Roe vs. Wade. That is the only real important difference I see between the two candidates.

I am still voting for President Barack Obama but will again wait and see what the candidates actually say in their debates before making up my mind. Romney's VP pick is also important but I will be shocked if it is not someone very safe with respect to things being politics as usual.

One poster wrote, "Obama's recent move on the road to citizenship for many kids and adults now in the US illegally is a bold one but I see it more as a move to get votes than any carefully planned out policy."

This is not correct. The President stated his Executive Order is NOT a road to citizenship for these young people.

Is it a move to gather more votes? Of course it is. Basically, it is the DREAM Act with a few tweaks.

It is for children of illegals. The young people must have been in the US for at least 5 years; arrived before age 16 and are under 30 years old; high school education or military; and have had no criminal problems.

You certainly would not want to arrest an illegal 18 year old who has been in the US since age 2, educated in US schools, speaks no native language, has no relatives in native country, and deport them to that native country. That would be idiotic to even think that way.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Check on Villages Kahuna's various posts about the differences between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. They look like they will be quite similar with how they actually deal with the economy as well as with foreign affairs. Most of the other really important issues like gay rights, abortion, etc. are handled by the States.

I cannot see them doing all that much with the current Tax Code. It will just keep having the various loopholes clever lawyers can manipulate for their rich corporate and individual clients.

Obama's recent move on the road to citizenship for many kids and adults now in the US illegally is a bold one but I see it more as a move to get votes than any carefully planned out policy.

All I am really saying is that both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are politicians who will do whatever they can to help the economy. Most of the people in the US though will fare just as well under Barack Obama as they will under Mitt Romney.

There was not any real change by the Barack Obama administration as he had promised in the 2008 election. He took on the powers that be in Washington but basically became the same kind of politician to get things done. That seems like the standard course in DC. Mitt Romney has played the same kind of game with his politics. He changes his positions to get things done and keep some kind of party support.

There could be a significant development if new Supreme Court Justice appointed by Mitt Romney overturn Roe vs. Wade. That is the only real important difference I see between the two candidates.

I am still voting for President Barack Obama but will again wait and see what the candidates actually say in their debates before making up my mind. Romney's VP pick is also important but I will be shocked if it is not someone very safe with respect to things being politics as usual.

With all the crap Obama's is pulling, I still say your contention of no difference is ludicrous. VK has his opinions but that's all they are. His not the final word on any subject, but only his conclusions.

Vote for the fascist if you want. It's a free country, still. If The Amateur wins, we'll have to reevaluate that statement very soon.

I am amazed at the amount of detail from Romney that some can quote day in and day out. Yet the same folks can't remember anything Obama promises and doe not deliver on.

Funny how that works.

On another note...just like Obama saying this week like his opponent the economy is number one. Yet he delivers to the illegals....and I am still waiting from another thread for his supporters to tell me how this is good for America. And just what does it contribute to the repair of the economy.

Two short answers....it isn't and it doesn't.....but it does buy votes.

I also still wonder why he would stir the pot by taking a so called "bold" move to shore up a voting block so many of you think he has all locked up.

Because he is not confident he has anything locked up that's why. This election he has the past 4 years to answer for which he did not have during the first pied piper sessions.

btk

Originally Posted by RichieLion

With all the crap Obama's is pulling, I still say your contention of no difference is ludicrous. VK has his opinions but that's all they are. His not the final word on any subject, but only his conclusions.

Vote for the fascist if you want. It's a free country, still. If The Amateur wins, we'll have to reevaluate that statement very soon.

The above poster keeps referring to Facism. Does he know what it is? Read the attached link and you will see that Facism sounds a whole lot more like the venom that Rick Santorum was spewing during the primaries.
Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Originally Posted by buggyone

The above poster keeps referring to Facism. Does he know what it is? Read the attached link and you will see that Facism sounds a whole lot more like the venom that Rick Santorum was spewing during the primaries.
*Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

I know exactly what I'm speaking of in the history of the liberal establishment's fascination with fascism as practiced by Mussolini and now emulated by Barack Obama. It the controlling of industry by fiat, and then leaving the accountability and failure for it's effects on the businesses it's controlled by duress and by edict to the business itself.

Liberals have long tried to shift the role of fascism to the right, but I reject your revisionism.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I know exactly what I'm speaking of in the history of the liberal establishment's fascination with fascism as practiced by Mussolini and now emulated by Barack Obama. It the controlling of industry by fiat, and then leaving the accountability and failure for it's effects on the businesses it's controlled by duress and by edict to the business itself.

Liberals have long tried to shift the role of fascism to the right, but I reject your revisionism.

RichieLion, your post was so laughable. You and Glenn Beck ought to go into the revisionist righting business together. Get some political science books to learn what facism means.

Originally Posted by buggyone

RichieLion, your post was so laughable. You and Glenn Beck ought to go into the revisionist righting business together. Get some political science books to learn what facism means.

Since the attack has reverted to me, it proves my validity as once again you're flummoxed for a cogent or compelling response.

This is almost too easy.

Originally Posted by buggyone

RichieLion, your post was so laughable. You and Glenn Beck ought to go into the revisionist righting business together. Get some political science books to learn what facism means.

I suppose you have read another poster who supports you always and you return the favor who said on here this evening with GREAT PRIDE...

"the outrage coming from the right is just precious. Expect one of these cabinet-level directives every friday. Mitt romney won't know what hit him. Team obama is just getting fired up and ready to go."

This appears to substantiate what RICHIE is saying as you folks seem to want this kind of action from your Presiden.

Originally Posted by Bucco

I suppose you have read another poster who supports you always and you return the favor who said on here this evening with GREAT PRIDE...

"the outrage coming from the right is just precious. Expect one of these cabinet-level directives every friday. Mitt romney won't know what hit him. Team obama is just getting fired up and ready to go."

This appears to substantiate what RICHIE is saying as you folks seem to want this kind of action from your Presiden.

To prove my point and the direction this Imperial President is going, I'll predict the next move in his attempt to buy his reelection.

He will try to bring back the college voters which he is losing by "forgiving" their college loans.

He may, and I think will, unilaterally forgive home mortgages for those who have what is called "underwater" mortgages.

These will be the next steps, and will undoubtedly be lauded by the usual suspects on this forum who collectively feel the tingle going up their legs.

I always said being a liberal is the most gutless choice one can make. They really don't stand for anything and can be so easily duped by their statist masters. If Obama announced tomorrow he was the Antichrist they wouldn't give a damn as long as he made them feel good about themselves. Liberals are suckers for anything government. That's why they love Obama. They are children of the government so they think we and everyone else should be to.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

To prove my point and the direction this Imperial President is going, I'll predict the next move in his attempt to buy his reelection.

He will try to bring back the college voters which he is losing by "forgiving" their college loans.

He may, and I think will, unilaterally forgive home mortgages for those who have what is called "underwater" mortgages.

These will be the next steps, and will undoubtedly be lauded by the usual suspects on this forum who collectively feel the tingle going up their legs.

And.....he will promise a chicken for every pot.

Originally Posted by Bucco

I suppose you have read another poster who supports you always and you return the favor who said on here this evening with GREAT PRIDE...

"the outrage coming from the right is just precious. Expect one of these cabinet-level directives every friday. Mitt romney won't know what hit him. Team obama is just getting fired up and ready to go."

This appears to substantiate what RICHIE is saying as you folks seem to want this kind of action from your Presiden.

I have not been made privy to the Democrat plans for the election. If other Democrats on here have that information, good for them but I have no knowledge of it. Sure, I like it. If the Congress remains gridlocked, the President has the authority to issue Executive Orders. Good job!!

I have not heard any wubers griping about Congress going on summer recess when there is important government work to be completed in Washington. They should stay in session until work is done.

I do know that the Republicans and Tea Partiers have had the wind knocked out of their sails with this Executive Order - which is entirely legal. They will be playing catch up for some time with this one. The Republicans wanted to have Marko Rubio announce his plan that would be very similar so it would be a knockdown punch at their convention. Oops, that is not happening now.

No, Republicans could not do it with an Executive Order because a Democrat is President. And it looks very likely that President Obama is going to remain President of the USA for another term.