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Guest 07-24-2015 08:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090965)
Perhaps you don't know this comment is sexist?

Horrors!! I'm SOOOOO sorry!!. OMG, I really truly didn't mean to offend anyone and, if I did, I mean I'm even sorrier. Mea culpa, mea cupla.

It's offensive to offend someone in this horrible manner, and it's not really who I am.

Guest 07-24-2015 12:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1091041)
Horrors!! I'm SOOOOO sorry!!. OMG, I really truly didn't mean to offend anyone and, if I did, I mean I'm even sorrier. Mea culpa, mea cupla.

It's offensive to offend someone in this horrible manner, and it's not really who I am.

Sarcastic Dolt!

Guest 07-24-2015 01:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1091135)
Sarcastic Dolt!

Meh. You don't want to learn anything, you don't examine facts, there is no intelligent back-and-forth.

You just wanna stir.

Guest 07-27-2015 05:24 PM

I don't mean this as political so don't make it that way. What I don't understand is why, with Obama care, we still have Planned Parenthood doing abortions? They should be done in the hospitals and covered under Obamacare.

Guest 07-27-2015 06:15 PM

Federally suppored butcher factories and that is OK?

The politicians who get their share of the multi billions paid in to the executives who run the burcher shop.

Does anybody think they would cut of the income stream to such a lucrative hand out.

I never knew killing unborn children was a partisan issue. Kinda like being in church....one doesn't stop to wonder if there are red or blue or dems or repubs right. They are all there to worship the same God right? They all have the same morals right?

Hypocrites of the highest order all!!

Guest 07-27-2015 07:48 PM

How is it that we hear all the Pro-Lifers spouting off about the terrible murdering of unborn children but they will never give any clear answer to:

What would you do if your daughter or grand daughter found herself pregnant by rape? Would you force her to have the unwanted child?

Guest 07-28-2015 09:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092232)
I don't mean this as political so don't make it that way. What I don't understand is why, with Obama care, we still have Planned Parenthood doing abortions? They should be done in the hospitals and covered under Obamacare.

Interesting. I hadn't made the connection, and you are right.

Guest 07-28-2015 09:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092269)
How is it that we hear all the Pro-Lifers spouting off about the terrible murdering of unborn children but they will never give any clear answer to:

What would you do if your daughter or grand daughter found herself pregnant by rape? Would you force her to have the unwanted child?

Because it is a moot point. I assume you're talking about minors ~ they have the ability to petition the court, and their request WILL be granted. The parents essentially have no say.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092269)
How is it that we hear all the Pro-Lifers spouting off about the terrible murdering of unborn children but they will never give any clear answer to:

What would you do if your daughter or grand daughter found herself pregnant by rape? Would you force her to have the unwanted child?

Would you force her to have an abortion?

Guest 07-28-2015 11:17 AM

McConnell Voted In 1993 To Legalize Fetal Tissue Donations After Abortion

The same politicians who are voting to defund Planned Parenthood are the same politicians who voted to lift the ban on donating fetal tissue, which allows PP to do what they are doing, including Senator Mitch McConnell.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092443)
Would you force her to have an abortion?

Wow.......powerful turn on the question. Wish I would have thought of that myself. So, poster being addressed by above question, how do you answer that? I, too, would like to know as it provides insight into why you are asking YOUR question.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092453)
Wow.......powerful turn on the question. Wish I would have thought of that myself. So, poster being addressed by above question, how do you answer that? I, too, would like to know as it provides insight into why you are asking YOUR question.

The answer is NO, I would NOT force her to have an abortion. I do not have grandchildren but do have a daughter in her late 20's. It would be ENTIRELY up to her as what to do. That is called A Woman's Right To Choose. I would be there to support her in any choice she would make.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092392)
Because it is a moot point. I assume you're talking about minors ~ they have the ability to petition the court, and their request WILL be granted. The parents essentially have no say.

No, I was talking of some daughter or grand daughter over 18 years old - not a minor.

Not a moot point. An answer, please.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092459)
No, I was talking of some daughter or grand daughter over 18 years old - not a minor.

Not a moot point. An answer, please.

Since you are not speaking of minors, how could I possibly force them to do anything?

Guest 07-28-2015 11:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092457)
The answer is NO, I would NOT force her to have an abortion. I do not have grandchildren but do have a daughter in her late 20's. It would be ENTIRELY up to her as what to do. That is called A Woman's Right To Choose. I would be there to support her in any choice she would make.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092469)
Since you are not speaking of minors, how could I possibly force them to do anything?

Precisely. No matter my belief, I cannot force an adult to do anything.

Before anyone asks, yes, I would love and support my daughter regardless of her choice.

Guest 07-28-2015 11:58 AM

Same old same old party line defensive offense.

It is not a party line or political issue however the die hard special interest and die hard everything has to be red or blue don't really care. They just sway in what ever direction the wind blows that will bring a vote.

Moral issue? They could care less....it is all about the vote and NOTHING more.

And they are so good at playing the high and mighty what would you do offensive defense....and I do mean offensive! Also know that does not matter....just the vote.

Guest 07-30-2015 12:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092469)
Since you are not speaking of minors, how could I possibly force them to do anything?

How could you force them? By saying, "I forbid you to do this and if you have an abortion, you are no longer my daughter."

It sounds as though some who speak of abortions being butchery would actually go to this extreme. After all, how could you have a daughter who you believe is a murderer?

And also for a minor child (16 or so), pregnant by a boyfriend and wants an abortion - would you force her to have the unwanted child? If she went to court against her parents, that would almost guarantee a huge animosity that could not be healed over time.

Guest 07-30-2015 12:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093314)
How could you force them? By saying, "I forbid you to do this and if you have an abortion, you are no longer my daughter."

It sounds as though some who speak of abortions being butchery would actually go to this extreme. After all, how could you have a daughter who you believe is a murderer?

And also for a minor child (16 or so), pregnant by a boyfriend and wants an abortion - would you force her to have the unwanted child? If she went to court against her parents, that would almost guarantee a huge animosity that could not be healed over time.

And you think having an abortion is something you just get over?

Guest 07-30-2015 01:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1089990)
You might want to check this story outside the radical right sources..

There were no baby parts sold....the parts, at the request of the donor, were donated to a research center. Planned Parenthood did charge a fee for SHIPPING

Just another sleazy right wing attempted sting against Planned Parenthood.

Wow, expensive "shipping!!" One perpetrator wanted a Lamborghini for "shipping." :confused:

Guest 07-30-2015 01:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092232)
I don't mean this as political so don't make it that way. What I don't understand is why, with Obama care, we still have Planned Parenthood doing abortions? They should be done in the hospitals and covered under Obamacare.

Because federally funded abortions are illegal?

Guest 07-30-2015 01:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1089990)
You might want to check this story outside the radical right sources..

There were no baby parts sold....the parts, at the request of the donor, were donated to a research center. Planned Parenthood did charge a fee for SHIPPING

Just another sleazy right wing attempted sting against Planned Parenthood.

Ah yes, the old Right Wing Conspiracy ploy again. I understand that the sinking of the Titanic was also a Right Wing Conspiracy. Just because the liberal media refuses to air the news, does not make this a right wing conspiracy.

Guest 07-30-2015 01:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090001)
You are absolutely right!

Ask the radical right wing if they would accept a liver or kidney for their grandchild from one of these "murdered" donors? Would they pay the $100 shipping charge?

Typical liberal distortion and deflection. If I had the morals and ethics of a liberal, sure I would.

Guest 07-30-2015 01:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090065)
Great question!! Always interesting to see how many PETA supporters are also pro-abortion activists. Talk about screwed up priorities!

Amen!

Guest 07-30-2015 01:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090073)
3:18, I think you should answer first.

I'm not the poster you're quoting, but my answer is no. There are others sources for both kidneys and livers, sources that do not have the moral complications of using fetal tissue.

Amen. I agree.

Guest 07-30-2015 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090074)
Yes, as long as no one had to be murdered to get it.

How about you?

:agree:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:03 PM

Exactly where did these misinformed folks get the idea that someone was only paying for the shipping of the aborted babies?

I'm sure that someone will correct my numbers, but to my understanding there are almost a million children killed by abortion every year. Also, according to my limited research, the majority of abortions are performed on Democrats. Now, if I was morally and ethically bankrupt as a liberal, I would would have to believe that liberals are doing us a favor. But, I can't blame the baby for the morally corrupt parent.
Does anyone know the percentage of black babies that are aborted? I understand that there were more black babies aborted last year than were born. Is this a liberal conspiracy of genocide? Perhaps liberals will blame it on conservatives because they refuse to endorse wealth redistribution?

Liberals believe in killing an innocent soon-to-be baby thru no fault of its own, but abhor the idea of executing a convicted criminal that has killed another person. I think I can see the correlation there. I wonder if it is deemed ok for the Warden at the penitentiary to sell executed criminal body parts. Careful folks, someone may want to slice and dice you for resale when you croak. Wonder if I can get a franchise going at some of the assisted living establishments around here. Maybe a Lamborghini would look nice in my driveway.

Guest 07-30-2015 02:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092469)
Since you are not speaking of minors, how could I possibly force them to do anything?

:BigApplause::BigApplause:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090948)
You all will justify everything in your own mind most likely made up by the usual right wing talking points fairy.

When you know you lost, just take your ball and go home. :cry::mad:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1092269)
How is it that we hear all the Pro-Lifers spouting off about the terrible murdering of unborn children but they will never give any clear answer to:

What would you do if your daughter or grand daughter found herself pregnant by rape? Would you force her to have the unwanted child?

What's that got to do with selling body parts?

Divert -- Divert -- Divert :blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:20 PM

Good thing that the law doesn't support postnatal abortions. There would sure be a lot less liberals and Obama would not have been elected. Seriously, it's mostly liberals that are having abortions, so that means that a bunch of you wouldn't exist. Just saying....:loco:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1090555)
Planned Parenthood receives 1/2 Billion dollars from the gov't each year. Our tax dollars help to fund it. Pull the plug on the dollars and watch it wither on the vine.

works for me :thumbup:

Guest 07-30-2015 02:36 PM

The fact that democrats choose to use abortion as a vote getter is not very good press about their morals in the first place.
Then to not condem what is happening at or by Planned Parenthood.
And then even worse they try to make the killing, butchering and selling of fetal parts sound OK.

I know there just has to be some number o democrats, unfortunately remainin silent, that do understand the core issue.

There is apparently no wrong as long as the vote comes in their favor!

Same folks who find it OK to support an unethical, unqualified, liar as their candidate.

Bobble head obedience!

Guest 07-30-2015 02:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093380)
The fact that democrats choose to use abortion as a vote getter is not very good press about their morals in the first place.
Then to not condem what is happening at or by Planned Parenthood.
And then even worse they try to make the killing, butchering and selling of fetal parts sound OK.

I know there just has to be some number o democrats, unfortunately remainin silent, that do understand the core issue.

There is apparently no wrong as long as the vote comes in their favor!

Same folks who find it OK to support an unethical, unqualified, liar as their candidate.

Bobble head obedience!

They literally eat their own.

Guest 07-30-2015 03:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093317)
And you think having an abortion is something you just get over?


...and by that snarky reply, we all can see you as a Neanthrandal troll who would tell their daughter that an abortion is out of the question and she must carry and give birth to an unwanted child.

Guest 07-30-2015 04:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093380)
The fact that democrats choose to use abortion as a vote getter is not very good press about their morals in the first place.
Then to not condem what is happening at or by Planned Parenthood.
And then even worse they try to make the killing, butchering and selling of fetal parts sound OK.

I know there just has to be some number o democrats, unfortunately remainin silent, that do understand the core issue.

There is apparently no wrong as long as the vote comes in their favor!

Same folks who find it OK to support an unethical, unqualified, liar as their candidate.

Bobble head obedience!

The only organization that is under criminal investigation is the group that put together these videos, using a convicted felon in the sting. When the butchering and selling of fetal parts passed the senate, the vote was 97 to 3 in favor, back in 1993.

Guest 07-30-2015 04:22 PM

Push to defund Planned Parenthood lacks votes to pass | MSNBC


As of today, republicans do not have the votes to defund Planned Parenthood. Two republican senators said they will vote no when the vote is taken early next week. The GOP needs 60 votes for this to pass.

Guest 07-30-2015 04:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093406)
...and by that snarky reply, we all can see you as a Neanthrandal troll who would tell their daughter that an abortion is out of the question and she must carry and give birth to an unwanted child.

Had your parents been Pro-Abortion, and followed their convictions, we wouldn't have to read YOUR snarky posts.

Guest 07-30-2015 05:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093406)
...and by that snarky reply, we all can see you as a Neanthrandal troll who would tell their daughter that an abortion is out of the question and she must carry and give birth to an unwanted child.

And the problem with that is??????

I believe you misspelled Neanderthal, and I believe you inadvertently misrepresented them. If you are suggesting that one has ancient values and would cherish life regardless of the pregnancy circumstance due to moral and ethical mores, I hardly believe that would be a slur, but flattery. Kind of like saying "I don't like your superior patriotic loyalty."

Guest 07-30-2015 05:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093419)
The only organization that is under criminal investigation is the group that put together these videos, using a convicted felon in the sting. When the butchering and selling of fetal parts passed the senate, the vote was 97 to 3 in favor, back in 1993.

Kind of like saying we should investigate those navy seals that rescued 30 embassy employees in Benghazi for not obeying orders to stand down. And got themselves killed attempting to rescue the ambassador too. Instead of investigating the inept handling of the disaster by Clinton.

Guest 07-30-2015 06:00 PM

Every day there is more released. Here there is open discussion about what is legal to sell or not....also about getting caught....and what the lawyers for Planned Parenthood have done to protect the butchers:

Video: Planned Parenthood Doctor on How to Avoid Getting Caught


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