Originally Posted by janmcn

So why is it all these republican leaders are coming out and saying these photo ID laws were passed to suppress the "black vote", such as Representative Mike Turzai (R-PA) GOP lawmaker who said on camera that this law is "gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania"?
Or Jim Greer, the former chairman of the republican party in Florida, saying that meetings were held just after the 2008 election to talk about ways to suppress the black vote?

These comments don't bode well for the open and free elections this country is supposed to have. Hopefully, the courts are going to decide that these laws violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and overturn them.

There are TWO ways to look at this. One, voter id law stops the fraud in the booth which traditionally has been to the advantage of the left and then of course your reading of it. Guess it depends on how you view it and history !

for the umpteenth time a question for those who have a problem with eliminating voter fraud.....are you in favor of allowing known voter fraud to continue? And why?

The question, like many, many other very specific questions requiring one to state their opinion.....but to date never answered.

The truth has been known to be damaging in the past.....especially in politics.

btk

Originally Posted by janmcn

So why is it all these republican leaders are coming out and saying these photo ID laws were passed to suppress the "black vote", such as Representative Mike Turzai (R-PA) GOP lawmaker who said on camera that this law is "gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania"?
Or Jim Greer, the former chairman of the republican party in Florida, saying that meetings were held just after the 2008 election to talk about ways to suppress the black vote?

These comments don't bode well for the open and free elections this country is supposed to have. Hopefully, the courts are going to decide that these laws violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and overturn them.

janmcn - your opinion - not turzai's, greer's or ANYONE elses:
if fraudulent voter registrations are deleted from the rolls, what problem do you have with that?

Originally Posted by njbchbum

janmcn - your opinion - not turzai's, greer's or ANYONE elses:
if fraudulent voter registrations are deleted from the rolls, what problem do you have with that?

I have no problem with fraudulent voter registrations deleted from the roll as there are as many republicans being deleted as democrats, but I have a problem with elected republican officials saying they "are trying to suppress the black vote".

I really do not understand Democrats, I was a democrat when I was 18 years old, but then I had to grow up. Taking money from people who made it and giving it to those who don't is only going to get you one thing in the end and it isn't pretty. Of course it took Russia 70 years to reach the end and maybe the Democrats of today are only living for today and tomorrow can take care of itself.

Originally Posted by dsned

I really do not understand Democrats, I was a democrat when I was 18 years old, but then I had to grow up. Taking money from people who made it and giving it to those who don't is only going to get you one thing in the end and it isn't pretty. Of course it took Russia 70 years to reach the end and maybe the Democrats of today are only living for today and tomorrow can take care of itself.

I do not buy your argument from fear. How are taxes going to result in whatever you claim could happen? Some countries have much higher rates of taxes than the U.S. and they seem to be doing quite well.

Originally Posted by dsned

.......I was a democrat when I was 18 years old, but then I had to grow up. Taking money from people who made it and giving it to those who don't is only going to get you one thing in the end and it isn't pretty......

And this is the crux of the whole decline of our nation.....voting with teenage thought processes when you're 30-70 years old.

Originally Posted by ilovetv

And this is the crux of the whole decline of our nation.....voting with teenage thought processes when you're 30-70 years old.

Doubt if many people actually vote with teenage thought processes. Most of the people on TOTV sure do not seem to do this. I also do not see the human rights strengthes of the US Democratic party as sophomoric. The right to abortion, separation of church and state, looking out for the poor, and fighting terrorists are very admirable endeavors.

Originally Posted by Bucco

There are TWO ways to look at this. One, voter id law stops the fraud in the booth which traditionally has been to the advantage of the left and then of course your reading of it. Guess it depends on how you view it and history !

In the case currently being heard in Pennsyvania, government officials, including the Secretary of State, stipulated that there have been no cases of voter fraud in past elections in PA and that they do not anticipate any voter fraud in future elections with or without the voter ID law.

Originally Posted by janmcn

So why is it all these republican leaders are coming out and saying these photo ID laws were passed to suppress the "black vote", such as Representative Mike Turzai (R-PA) GOP lawmaker who said on camera that this law is "gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania"?
Or Jim Greer, the former chairman of the republican party in Florida, saying that meetings were held just after the 2008 election to talk about ways to suppress the black vote?

These comments don't bode well for the open and free elections this country is supposed to have. Hopefully, the courts are going to decide that these laws violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and overturn them.

There are responses for both situations and of course similair striking comments from the Democratic party !

The issue is voter id, with no motive...just show me who you are as you do when you buy beer, use a credit card, etc before you excercise your vote.

I assume from your comments that you are on the column labeled that you do not need to prove who you are. I am in the other column, as I consider voting a step above buying booze, using my credit card, etc, and I DO care whether someone votes who should not.

Everyone would be better served to forget anything but addressing the problems in this country. The deficit, the unemployment, the despair of so many, the spending, etc....it has to be addressed no matter how many times you want to throw mud at people and ignore what is going on.