Originally Posted by Guest

The vote last night was not to repeal ACA but does start laying groundwork.

It takes 51 votes to repeal and republicans have 52, but it takes 60 votes to replace. Not sure where they think they will get those eight votes they need.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump said he did not want to repeal ObieCare without first having a replacement. At the very least, they will put an expiration date on Obiecare of like two years and have another replacement already in effect before it expires. There is no reason for anyone to be concerned. After all, the whole thing was getting ready to implode anyway.

By the way, there is an example of one they wish to push, called something like "A Better Way." I haven't read it yet, but plan to download it like I did with all the variations of Obiecare before it was passed. This one is much, much shorter.

Seriously? Has Trump ever lied about anything?

...until more Trump cultist idiots like this one...finally figure out what a mistake they've made in backing Chump.

Viral Facebook fail says everything about 'Obamacare' debate stupidity

The person who posted this *incredibly* facepalm-worthy status below falls into the second category. They seem to think that Obamacare was a total failure, but the Affordable Care Act was an emergency replacement that is working just fine.

NEWS FLASH: They are the same thing!! And now, Republicans want to take this poor fool’s health insurance away from them.

Although my first instinct is to laugh my azz off at their stupidity, I'm actually feeling sorry for those nitwits who backed Trump...because they weren't smart enough to figure out the truth. (we really need a slapping forehead emoji )

But hey, Trump loves the uneducated...so whatta ya gonna do?

Originally Posted by Guest

It takes 51 votes to repeal and republicans have 52, but it takes 60 votes to replace. Not sure where they think they will get those eight votes they need.





Seriously? Has Trump ever lied about anything?

They will easily get the votes of at least eight rational moderate democrats. They'll probably have a few democrats on the committee to form a new plan.

It'll happen. It is happening.

[QUOTE=Guest]So Jan, are you going to lose your Medicaid? I thought that stayed the same. Hope they don't take your food stamps away too. Wow, you might have to go move in with the kids.

SO glad to see congress finally getting something positive done in D.C. Can't wait for the Wall construction to start. Might even volunteer my services. Although, all they will need to do is snatch a few Illegals as they attempt to enter and put them to work on the wall to work off their punishment. Hey Jan, why don't you do something for your country and volunteer?[/QUOte

Wait till this creates a problem for your family or you, you will change your tone. But maybe you will say, the hell with them, after all that is your feeling here.

Dave - did you cut your baIIs off shaving? If you watched Paul Ryan's townhall last night you would be less concerned. Possibly you did not watch because you thought (unt and Jan would not approve of you getting information from the horses mouth...

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Originally Posted by Guest

So Jan, are you going to lose your Medicaid? I thought that stayed the same. Hope they don't take your food stamps away too. Wow, you might have to go move in with the kids.

SO glad to see congress finally getting something positive done in D.C. Can't wait for the Wall construction to start. Might even volunteer my services. Although, all they will need to do is snatch a few Illegals as they attempt to enter and put them to work on the wall to work off their punishment. Hey Jan, why don't you do something for your country and volunteer?[/QUOte

Wait till this creates a problem for your family or you, you will change your tone. But maybe you will say, the hell with them, after all that is your feeling here.

I had NO problems UNTIL Obamacare. And my daughter pays about $13K deductible per year, THANKS to Obiecare.
They can repeal without replacing and it will be a better deal than we have now. But Republicans want to do it right this time and open up the competition so that it will drive the price down. Tell me why you don't like that? And all this crying about Medicare that you keep doing, why did you not complain about them stealing close to a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for Medicaid?

The only problem I have with the Republican idea is that it's taken so long to bring to fruition.

Originally Posted by Guest

...until more Trump cultist idiots like this one...finally figure out what a mistake they've made in backing Chump.

Viral Facebook fail says everything about 'Obamacare' debate stupidity







Although my first instinct is to laugh my azz off at their stupidity, I'm actually feeling sorry for those nitwits who backed Trump...because they weren't smart enough to figure out the truth. (we really need a slapping forehead emoji )

But hey, Trump loves the uneducated...so whatta ya gonna do?

Sounds like you think everyone should be poor so they can have Obamacare. What about the people that had insurance but had to drop it because the premiums and deductibles were more than their cost of living (mortgage payments, etc.)? Young working families were expected to foot the bill for it; they just couldn't afford it. As for the last statement, it is the Obama/Clinton lovers that love the uneducated.

We have insurance (MedicareAdvantage plan), we are seniors, and still end up the the "donut hole" because of the outrageous cost of drugs. Prime example: One drug is over $900 with insurance and copay combined; yet, AstraZenica advertises that if you can't afford your medication, they can let you have it for as low as $18. Why the hell can't they just sell it for a reasonable price in the first place? Oh yeah, I forgot; they do that, then they can't afford all the TV, radio, newspaper, and magazine ads. Why not cut out all the advertising of the meds that require a doctor's prescription (all in the name of research you understand)? Pray tell me, what does this so-called research have to do with advertising. Use those monies to bring down the cost to the consumer and there would still be plenty for "research", as they call it. Instead they overcharge, advertise, and then get grants for the research, anyway. Nice racket.

And before you jump on the Medicare wagon, just know that we pay into it while we work and again when we retire and start to draw those "benefits". Combined, ours is over $200 a month, just like all others who have SS is.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sounds like you think everyone should be poor so they can have Obamacare. What about the people that had insurance but had to drop it because the premiums and deductibles were more than their cost of living (mortgage payments, etc.)? Young working families were expected to foot the bill for it; they just couldn't afford it. As for the last statement, it is the Obama/Clinton lovers that love the uneducated.

We have insurance (MedicareAdvantage plan), we are seniors, and still end up the the "donut hole" because of the outrageous cost of drugs. Prime example: One drug is over $900 with insurance and copay combined; yet, AstraZenica advertises that if you can't afford your medication, they can let you have it for as low as $18. Why the hell can't they just sell it for a reasonable price in the first place? Oh yeah, I forgot; they do that, then they can't afford all the TV, radio, newspaper, and magazine ads. Why not cut out all the advertising of the meds that require a doctor's prescription (all in the name of research you understand)? Pray tell me, what does this so-called research have to do with advertising. Use those monies to bring down the cost to the consumer and there would still be plenty for "research", as they call it. Instead they overcharge, advertise, and then get grants for the research, anyway. Nice racket.

And before you jump on the Medicare wagon, just know that we pay into it while we work and again when we retire and start to draw those "benefits". Combined, ours is over $200 a month, just like all others who have SS is.

I agree with you, but just a slight correction.
I do NOT pay anything into Medicare now that I am retired. Reason, because I did not opt to have Medicare B or others. Medicare A is nothing more than hospitalization, so it is useless to me. I have private insurance that pays for that stuff. Many folks that are paying for Medicare B were conned into it when they did not opt out and now pay for it. I opted out and my wife opted out. We have nothing deducted from our SS. But, otherwise I do agree with you.

Originally Posted by Guest

They will easily get the votes of at least eight rational moderate democrats. They'll probably have a few democrats on the committee to form a new plan.

Seriously? Democrats vow not to provide one vote to replace Obamacare.

The house is voting at noon today to repeal Obamacare after the senate vote 51-48 for repeal. The only thing remaining is Trump's signature which could come as early as one week from today, then let the cancellation notices follow.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump said he did not want to repeal ObieCare without first having a replacement. At the very least, they will put an expiration date on Obiecare of like two years and have another replacement already in effect before it expires. There is no reason for anyone to be concerned. After all, the whole thing was getting ready to implode anyway.

By the way, there is an example of one they wish to push, called something like "A Better Way." I haven't read it yet, but plan to download it like I did with all the variations of Obiecare before it was passed. This one is much, much shorter.

You bet the republican plan is much much shorter....... Actually I found it and I'll copy and paste it for you here.

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Originally Posted by Guest

They will easily get the votes of at least eight rational moderate democrats. They'll probably have a few democrats on the committee to form a new plan.

Hopefully republicans will get the same level of support from Democrats as Obama received from republicans. Dems won't vote for a bill that goes backwards.

Originally Posted by Guest

Hopefully republicans will get the same level of support from Democrats as Obama received from republicans. Dems won't vote for a bill that goes backwards.

Dems didn't vote for the repeal, why should they vote for a replacement?

Originally Posted by Guest

Hopefully republicans will get the same level of support from Democrats as Obama received from republicans. Dems won't vote for a bill that goes backwards.

And the ironic point that I find very amusing is that thanks to Harry Reid, the Republicans do not need the Dems to repeal ObieCare. They only need them to replace it. So, if the Dems refuse to replace it, then THEY will be the bad guys in the next election. I know one that already said he would vote to replace it.
They will repeal it, and will replace it. I don't care if they replace it as long as the get rid of it. In this case, going back is better than keeping it. It is the largest gov blunder of all time and America NEVER wanted it.

Originally Posted by Guest

And the ironic point that I find very amusing is that thanks to Harry Reid, the Republicans do not need the Dems to repeal ObieCare. They only need them to replace it. So, if the Dems refuse to replace it, then THEY will be the bad guys in the next election. I know one that already said he would vote to replace it.
They will repeal it, and will replace it. I don't care if they replace it as long as the get rid of it. In this case, going back is better than keeping it. It is the largest gov blunder of all time and America NEVER wanted it.

The house has voted to repeal Obamacare 227-198, after the senate voted 51-48. The only thing remaining is Trump's signature. Anyone who has private insurance and has a pre-existing condition can expect to receive their cancellation notice by Feb 1.