Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Where is your proof that homosexuality is genetic?

Ok... try this one on for size. Point of clarification....The debate is are you born this way or do you choose. Agreed?

So if sexual orientation is a choice for homosexuals then it must be a choice for heterosexuals. So I assume that you are a heterosexual....

The question is when did you choose to be a heterosexual? At what age? Or maybe you didn't choose, you just always knew.

Awaiting your answer.

Originally Posted by cologal

Ok... try this one on for size. Point of clarification....The debate is are you born this way or do you choose. Agreed?

So if sexual orientation is a choice for homosexuals then it must be a choice for heterosexuals. So I assume that you are a heterosexual....

The question is when did you choose to be a heterosexual? At what age? Or maybe you didn't choose, you just always knew.

Awaiting your answer.

With your reasoning...Horses live in barns. Therefore, if I live in a barn, I must be a horse? Or if I don't live in barn I can't be a horse?...

As far as the genetic proof, I'm pretty sure the research is not conclusive either way yet...Unless you know something that I don't, which was my original question.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

So you don't like women or liberals. Wow, must be sort of lonely around your house.

You've taken quite a leap, or you're just being silly. I'm not sure which; maybe both.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

With your reasoning...Horses live in barns. Therefore, if I live in a barn, I must be a horse? Or is I don't live in barn I can't be a horse?...

As far as the genetic proof, I'm pretty sure the research is not conclusive either way yet...Unless you know something that I don't, which was my original question.

But you don't live in a barn and other animals live a barn.

I noticed you didn't answer the question.....Why???

And one study at UCLA found a genetic marker in the DNA of gay male twins Xq28. Here the link

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay

However, as I know you are a devout Christian, from one of your posts, the only acceptable proof is in the Bible.

Originally Posted by cologal

But you don't live in a barn and other animals live a barn.

I noticed you didn't answer the question.....Why???

And one study at UCLA found a genetic marker in the DNA of gay male twins Xq28. Here the link

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay

However, as I know you are a devout Christian, from one of your posts, the only acceptable proof is in the Bible.

OK, so scientists think they have proof of inbred homosexuality. But, do you think that sexual behavior cannot be taught and learned?

Originally Posted by cologal

However, as I know you are a devout Christian, from one of your posts, the only acceptable proof is in the Bible.

Thanks for the link. I honestly am willing to learn and will read their study and continue to look for a couple more to support their findings...that is only logical to take the word of 2 or three.

The Bible my source of truth and I believe it contains all the answers to any questions that we have. However, I have yet to find sound evidence in the Bible telling me to view the practice in either a good or bad light. God is the God of science also, and I think he will allow the truth to be found one day. At the end of the day, as a Christian I am called to love others with no strings or restrictions attached. When I am able to do that, He always takes care of the details for me.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I'm going to make this my last post on the mandated total integration of OPENLY PRACTICING homosexuals in the the open area non-private communal living arrangements that is the US military.

Trying to discuss this subject with liberal women who are obviously and totally ignorant of the military life, especially where it concerns the world of men, is frustrating and pointless.

I know you will take offense to that statement, but it's no less true because you do. So, I'm expecting it.

I would bet if any of you women walked in a bathroom or shower room today, and you walked into one open room with sinks on one wall, and toilets on another and shower heads sticking out of the wall at the end, you would quickly turn around and walk out of that room. You wouldn't be thinking of anything else except the lack of privacy there. Now you want to install that room into the highly charged subject I'm talking about and throw some b.s. at me about Pres. Eisenhower. For pete's sake!!

That's it, and that's all. Now you can say what you want to say, as I've said my piece.

Well, isn't that the truth. These so-called educated people sit in their sterile room listening to their draft-dodging professors telling their world view which consists of listening to their liberal draft dodging professors, and the beat goes on. Listen to real science not unproven classroom claptrap. A scientist can guess what it might feel like walking on the moon, but a real astronaut can tell you for real.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Thanks for the link. I honestly am willing to learn and will read their study and continue to look for a couple more to support their findings...that is only logical to take the word of 2 or three.

The Bible my source of truth and I believe it contains all the answers to any questions that we have. However, I have yet to find sound evidence in the Bible telling me to view the practice in either a good or bad light. God is the God of science also, and I think he will allow the truth to be found one day. At the end of the day, as a Christian I am called to love others with no strings or restrictions attached. When I am able to do that, He always takes care of the details for me.

Thanks.....

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Well, isn't that the truth. These so-called educated people sit in their sterile room listening to their draft-dodging professors telling their world view which consists of listening to their liberal draft dodging professors, and the beat goes on. Listen to real science not unproven classroom claptrap. A scientist can guess what it might feel like walking on the moon, but a real astronaut can tell you for real.

Ok sorry to do this but....

In my family military unit there are 3 votes and I asked:

USMC - Worried
US Navy - Who Cares
US Army - What's the big deal.

In the service right now....

Originally Posted by cologal

Ok sorry to do this but....

In my family military unit there are 3 votes and I asked:

USMC - Worried
US Navy - Who Cares
US Army - What's the big deal.

In the service right now....

By your unofficial poll, assuming we have approximately 3 million military personnel both active and reserve (according to Wiki, anyway), that means we have 1 million military personnel who are worried about these new imposed changes in decorum. That's a pretty big number.

Originally Posted by cologal

Ok sorry to do this but....

In my family military unit there are 3 votes and I asked:

USMC - Worried
US Navy - Who Cares
US Army - What's the big deal.

In the service right now....

That's your DNA related family?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

By your unofficial poll, assuming we have approximately 3 million military personnel both active and reserve (according to Wiki, anyway), that means we have 1 million military personnel who are worried about these new imposed changes in decorum. That's a pretty big number.

You are correct but I have twice that number.....

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

That's your DNA related family?

2 out of 3......LOL

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Thanks for the link. I honestly am willing to learn and will read their study and continue to look for a couple more to support their findings...that is only logical to take the word of 2 or three.

The Bible my source of truth and I believe it contains all the answers to any questions that we have. However, I have yet to find sound evidence in the Bible telling me to view the practice in either a good or bad light. God is the God of science also, and I think he will allow the truth to be found one day. At the end of the day, as a Christian I am called to love others with no strings or restrictions attached. When I am able to do that, He always takes care of the details for me.

Quite a few people use the Bible to support their persecution of gays (largely because of what Saul/Paul wrote). I appreciate that you have not come to the same conclusion.

If you're willing to take the word of someone who has gays in his family and was raised by a technically bisexually but, for all intents and purposes, lesbian aoptive mother - and yet still managed to "turn out" straight, married, with two kids - it might give you some more insight to consider.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

By your unofficial poll, assuming we have approximately 3 million military personnel both active and reserve (according to Wiki, anyway), that means we have 1 million military personnel who are worried about these new imposed changes in decorum. That's a pretty big number.

66% don't care. That is a pretty big majority, don't you think? And as I have been thinking of this issue, I realized you have been using the wrong analogy. The analogy is not gay male military-straight male military vs. straight male military and straight military women. It is gay women military-straight women military. So, I am going to call my niece, an air force plane technician and ask her to talk to some of the ladies and see what they say. I think their answers will be more like 80% plus don't care. Women are not as threatened by these kind of sexual issues as men are.