Originally Posted by Guest

It amuses me how many Americans would be horrified to realize that Jesus was a dark skinned, Middle Eastern Jew who never said a word against homosexuals, never married, and hung out all the time with 12 other guys...

And you know this? Or just what you want to believe? Anything written down is someone's opinion (even the quotes) Only the people actually seen son of GOD knows anything. Everything else is hearsay, lies, or opinions.

Originally Posted by Guest

How do you square your "values" with a man who would say this ?

This is Trump in January, 2016.

How do you defend such a person with your stated value system ?

You do defend him, and you ARE a hypocrite
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"Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump continues to confound political and media watchers with his unconventional campaign. After getting an endorsement from Sarah Palin, who delivered a bizarre and rambling speech, Trump has gone on to brag about the size of his manhood.

I’m all man,” said Trump in an interview with WEHW. “I’m also as big as Lexington Steele. I could have gone into the porn business, if I wanted to. How do you think I’ve been able to keep marrying these hot women? I will be the most well-endowed president in history.”

Lexington Steele is a porn star known for his 10-inch *****.

This is not the first time Trump has bragged about his manhood. He once told TMZ that attorney Gloria Allred would be impressed with the size of his *****."

Trump Says He Could Have Been A Porn Star - The Business Standard News

How do you square yourself with " I never had sexual relations with that person? Or I only have one device? O I see they were little white lies under oath nothing more?

Originally Posted by Guest

And you know this? Or just what you want to believe? Anything written down is someone's opinion (even the quotes) Only the people actually seen son of GOD knows anything. Everything else is hearsay, lies, or opinions.

Only Saul (Paul) knows what is true and what isn't. He's personally responsible for what? 1/4, 1/3...or more of the NT? He IS Christianity.

Paul is to Christianity as Muhammad is to _____ ?

Originally Posted by Guest

How do you square your "values" with a man who would say this ?

This is Trump in January, 2016.

How do you defend such a person with your stated value system ?

You do defend him, and you ARE a hypocrite
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"Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump continues to confound political and media watchers with his unconventional campaign. After getting an endorsement from Sarah Palin, who delivered a bizarre and rambling speech, Trump has gone on to brag about the size of his manhood.

I’m all man,” said Trump in an interview with WEHW. “I’m also as big as Lexington Steele. I could have gone into the porn business, if I wanted to. How do you think I’ve been able to keep marrying these hot women? I will be the most well-endowed president in history.”

Lexington Steele is a porn star known for his 10-inch *****.

This is not the first time Trump has bragged about his manhood. He once told TMZ that attorney Gloria Allred would be impressed with the size of his *****."

Trump Says He Could Have Been A Porn Star - The Business Standard News

Are you sure this is a real news site you are quoting from? You may want to check that out.

Originally Posted by Guest

How do you square yourself with " I never had sexual relations with that person? Or I only have one device? O I see they were little white lies under oath nothing more?

You sincerely have a problem if that response is it ?

What any Clinton has to do with an immoral and deceitful, mean spirited man in our White House, making a total and complete fool of you and me escapes me.

Bill Clinton was wrong, and he was impeached.

You dredge up history as if that wipes the hypocrisy we are experiencing ?

As I said to Rubicon....you can hate Clinton, or OBama all you want but to sell your soul for political victory, is inexcusable.

If political victory for you exceeds honesty, and country, then you win.

I was a GOP for many years, and would not sell my morals for our President. You can, and obviously have, but I will not.

Your lack of mentioning what has occurred in your country the last year tells me a lot. Your only defense, and it does not serve you well is a trip back to Clinton, and frankly....and this, for me, is difficult. The lying and deceit, the lack of openness, the sheer dishonesty of Donald Trump far exceeds...FAR EXCEEDS anything they may have done, and I am sure they have done a lot.

My time on this forum, which I thought might be a discussion of actual policy has opened my eyes. The Trump followers on here are in that minority of extremists who share the philosophy of the white nationalist in the alt right.

They delight and enjoy using the internet to defame and attack other people. They are the suckers for the bots, as mentioned in the congressional hearings. They do not, cannot, love this country. They are victims, and shills at the same time to a lifetime immoral person.

When posters spout the same thing over and over and are even unable to discuss the person in the White House, they have become captive victims.

Originally Posted by Guest

Are you sure this is a real news site you are quoting from? You may want to check that out.

My sincere apologies.

In my anger and haste, I made a serious mistake. This is a satire and I will apologize to Rubicon and the board.

I should never allow my anger and frustration do that.....

I am sorry.

Thanks at least for getting me in facts, and not simply skipping facts or posted words and immediately attacking Clinton

Originally Posted by Guest

My sincere apologies.

In my anger and haste, I made a serious mistake. This is a satire and I will apologize to Rubicon and the board.

I should never allow my anger and frustration do that.....

I am sorry.

No problem. Didn't mean to call you out, but I know that is not your style. Appreciate the quick response and follow-up.

TO RUBICON

my sincerest apologies to you.

In my anger, haste and frustration, i cut and pasted something from a satire site.

I should never have done that and sincerely apologize, not only to you but to anyone offended.

While i was wrong, terribly wrong, in doing that, i still stand behind my words in response to your posts.

I usually check sites, because as you know, i surely do read them to check validity. In this case i was very wrong.




This is especially uncomfortable for me as well as being so very wrong. I am terribly upset at the use of some of these websites that are being used to support arguments. So, I cannot apologize enough because it is easy to id sites, if you are not angry and frustrated.

Originally Posted by Guest

TO RUBICON

my sincerest apologies to you.

In my anger, haste and frustration, i cut and pasted something from a satire site.

I should never have done that and sincerely apologize, not only to you but to anyone offended.

While i was wrong, terribly wrong, in doing that, i still stand behind my words in response to your posts.

I usually check sites, because as you know, i surely do read them to check validity. In this case i was very wrong.

Find links that support your view if you can't you're wrong.

Originally Posted by Guest

Find links that support your view if you can't you're wrong.

And I usually do. I apologized

Originally Posted by Guest

And I usually do. I apologized

But you said: "i still stand behind my words in response to your posts."

Why? If the ONLY link you can find was from a satire web site...then you shouldn't STILL think you were right.

Whatever...move on.

Originally Posted by Guest

But you said: "i still stand behind my words in response to your posts."

Why? If the ONLY link you can find was from a satire web site...then you shouldn't STILL think you were right.

Whatever...move on.

It is people like you who make Trump supporters look so bad.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is people like you who make Trump supporters look so bad.

I'm not a Trump supporter.

Explain why you STILL believe you're correct when supposedly the ONLY supporting link is from a satire web site?

You said it...explain it.

Originally Posted by Guest

No problem. Didn't mean to call you out, but I know that is not your style. Appreciate the quick response and follow-up.

You should call out anyone who uses questionable websites or post things that are demonstrably untrue.

There is no place for the "alternate" media in any adult discourse.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm not a Trump supporter.

Explain why you STILL believe you're correct when supposedly the ONLY supporting link is from a satire web site?

You said it...explain it.

I stand by my comments in post 30.

I deleted the other post.