Originally Posted by Guest

When it turned out that Pennsylvania late-term abortionist Kermit Gosnell was guilty of even worse butchery than the average abortionist, in that he (inter alia) also killed the children who survived his attempted abortions as opposed to merely those who didn’t, the media was infamously disinterested. Even when it turned out that fully grown women had died as a result of Gosnell’s gross indifference to human life, the media could not even be bothered to attend his trial. Even when it turned out that he victimized poor women in particular, refusing to provide them adequate anesthesia for their procedures in the name of penny pinching, the “media” section of his courtroom was empty.

The media defended their indifference to Gosnell’s grisly crimes and his subsequent conviction on multiple homicide offenses by calling it a “local crime story” which was of course not worth their interest.

Last Friday, a man named Robert Dear got involved in a shootout at a strip mall in Colorado Springs that happened to contain a Planned Parenthood. Three people were killed, including one police officer who was responding to the scene. Here is what we know about the shooter:
1. He lived alone and apparently completely without electricity;
2. One neighbor claims that Dear once tried to give him a pamphlet that was opposed to Obama, although what that pamphlet might have read or even the general gist was we don’t know since the neighbor by his own admission just used it as kindling for his fire;
3. The few people who did regularly talk to him said that he was not religious and did not ever discuss abortion; and
4. He showed up in court today looking, by all accounts, in a manner consistent with accounts of police at the scene; that is to say, in the manner of a man who is not in full control of his reasoning faculties;
5. Activist journalist Wesley Lowery, whose mistakes in coverage during the Ferguson fiasco are too numerous to recount here claimed on twitter to have heard from a Planned Parenthood employee that a man who lived in a cabin with no electricity mentioned “no more Baby Parts” as he was escorted from the premises, indicating a surprising familiarity with an exclusively Internet phenomenon for a man with no electricity. Later when Lowery wrote his actual story for the Washington Post, the Planned Parenthood employee had become an “unnamed law enforcement source.”
6. In subsequent media reports about the story, they referenced an “unnamed law enforcement source” who had heard the “Baby Parts” remark, without being tremendously clear whether they were reference an independent source of their own or just passing on Lowery’s remarks (knowing what I know of the media, a good amount of the latter occurred);
7. Now virtually every media outlet is reporting as fact that Deal made the “Baby Parts” remarks in spite of the fact that literally no eyewitness has come forward by name and claimed to have heard this.

On the basis of these facts, the media has convicted this guy of being a card-carrying Operation Rescue who was at the clinic specifically for the purpose of killing an abortion provider – which, if he had succeeded, would have made him the second person this entire century to do so.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; the most insidious form of media bias comes in terms of what the media decides to cover at all, not how the media decides to cover the story du jour. Definitely, there’s a lot to complain about in terms of the way the media is covering this story, but the main complaint should be that this is a story the media is covering as a big deal, or as a bigger deal than any of the several hundred tragic homicides that occurred elsewhere in America last Friday. If the suspected motivation for the killer had been that he was a radical Muslim, or that he was an abortionist who wanted to operate without reasonable oversight from the state (which is to say, pretty much all abortionists, as far as I can tell), they would have instead done their best to either bury the story all together or softpedal his supposed motivations, or (what would be eminently reasonable in this case) be much more cautious about even stating that the Planned Parenthood was the definitive target for his attacks.

But that’s the way it goes if the liberal sacred cow of abortion is even possibly under attack – magically, a story that would be described as either a “local crime story” or an incident of “workplace violence” becomes instead a “major story that every network will cover ceaselessly for three days.”

By Leon H. wolf (Diary) RedState 12/1/15

With such tragedies both the media and its readers should be honest with themselves in order to be effective at eliminating such societal problems . However this nation is so deeply ideologically divided we'd rather be right than to do the right and responsible thing....and a nation divided.......

Personal Best Regards:

Now you've done it. You have made liberals appear foolish again.
Liberals= participants in mass hysteria, easily led like sheep. Followers, not leaders.

Originally Posted by Guest

When it turned out that Pennsylvania late-term abortionist Kermit Gosnell was guilty of even worse butchery than the average abortionist, in that he (inter alia) also killed the children who survived his attempted abortions as opposed to merely those who didn’t, the media was infamously disinterested. Even when it turned out that fully grown women had died as a result of Gosnell’s gross indifference to human life, the media could not even be bothered to attend his trial. Even when it turned out that he victimized poor women in particular, refusing to provide them adequate anesthesia for their procedures in the name of penny pinching, the “media” section of his courtroom was empty.

The media defended their indifference to Gosnell’s grisly crimes and his subsequent conviction on multiple homicide offenses by calling it a “local crime story” which was of course not worth their interest.

Last Friday, a man named Robert Dear got involved in a shootout at a strip mall in Colorado Springs that happened to contain a Planned Parenthood. Three people were killed, including one police officer who was responding to the scene. Here is what we know about the shooter:
1. He lived alone and apparently completely without electricity;
2. One neighbor claims that Dear once tried to give him a pamphlet that was opposed to Obama, although what that pamphlet might have read or even the general gist was we don’t know since the neighbor by his own admission just used it as kindling for his fire;
3. The few people who did regularly talk to him said that he was not religious and did not ever discuss abortion; and
4. He showed up in court today looking, by all accounts, in a manner consistent with accounts of police at the scene; that is to say, in the manner of a man who is not in full control of his reasoning faculties;
5. Activist journalist Wesley Lowery, whose mistakes in coverage during the Ferguson fiasco are too numerous to recount here claimed on twitter to have heard from a Planned Parenthood employee that a man who lived in a cabin with no electricity mentioned “no more Baby Parts” as he was escorted from the premises, indicating a surprising familiarity with an exclusively Internet phenomenon for a man with no electricity. Later when Lowery wrote his actual story for the Washington Post, the Planned Parenthood employee had become an “unnamed law enforcement source.”
6. In subsequent media reports about the story, they referenced an “unnamed law enforcement source” who had heard the “Baby Parts” remark, without being tremendously clear whether they were reference an independent source of their own or just passing on Lowery’s remarks (knowing what I know of the media, a good amount of the latter occurred);
7. Now virtually every media outlet is reporting as fact that Deal made the “Baby Parts” remarks in spite of the fact that literally no eyewitness has come forward by name and claimed to have heard this.

On the basis of these facts, the media has convicted this guy of being a card-carrying Operation Rescue who was at the clinic specifically for the purpose of killing an abortion provider – which, if he had succeeded, would have made him the second person this entire century to do so.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; the most insidious form of media bias comes in terms of what the media decides to cover at all, not how the media decides to cover the story du jour. Definitely, there’s a lot to complain about in terms of the way the media is covering this story, but the main complaint should be that this is a story the media is covering as a big deal, or as a bigger deal than any of the several hundred tragic homicides that occurred elsewhere in America last Friday. If the suspected motivation for the killer had been that he was a radical Muslim, or that he was an abortionist who wanted to operate without reasonable oversight from the state (which is to say, pretty much all abortionists, as far as I can tell), they would have instead done their best to either bury the story all together or softpedal his supposed motivations, or (what would be eminently reasonable in this case) be much more cautious about even stating that the Planned Parenthood was the definitive target for his attacks.

But that’s the way it goes if the liberal sacred cow of abortion is even possibly under attack – magically, a story that would be described as either a “local crime story” or an incident of “workplace violence” becomes instead a “major story that every network will cover ceaselessly for three days.”

By Leon H. wolf (Diary) RedState 12/1/15

With such tragedies both the media and its readers should be honest with themselves in order to be effective at eliminating such societal problems . However this nation is so deeply ideologically divided we'd rather be right than to do the right and responsible thing....and a nation divided.......

Personal Best Regards:

My good friend, I think you need a hobby!

Originally Posted by Guest

My good friend, I think you need a hobby!

Maybe this is his hobby. At least he is informed and concerned. Unlike liberals that troll on here and have nothing of substance to relate. It would be refreshing to see a post from a liberal that was factual and coherent.

Perhaps your hobbies are getting in the way of your education on current events. Just guessing, or making a suggestion.

Originally Posted by Guest

Maybe this is his hobby. At least he is informed and concerned. Unlike liberals that troll on here and have nothing of substance to relate. It would be refreshing to see a post from a liberal that was factual and coherent.

Perhaps your hobbies are getting in the way of your education on current events. Just guessing, or making a suggestion.

Thank you for saying what needs to be said. To them, this is a game to be played like teens harassing the elders.

Originally Posted by Guest

My good friend, I think you need a hobby!

Dear Guest: The fact of the matter is that my hobby was assisting misinformed progressives on to the straight and logical road.

However a hobby is turning out to be a full time job because so many progressives seem to be tilting at windmills and false gods.

This "emperor has no clothes" mentality by progressives is either a concentrated head fake, or if a sincere belief, the most acute case of denial ever known to man.

Either way cogent realist like myself really have a heavy lift so please be more cooperative by at least listening. Progressives can listen better first by recognizing that name calling is not an argument.


Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

My good friend, I think you need a hobby!

I agree. If this is his hobby, its a sad day in paradise.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Guest: The fact of the matter is that my hobby was assisting misinformed progressives on to the straight and logical road.

However a hobby is turning out to be a full time job because so many progressives seem to be tilting at windmills and false gods.

This "emperor has no clothes" mentality by progressives is either a concentrated head fake, or if a sincere belief, the most acute case of denial ever known to man.

Either way cogent realist like myself really have a heavy lift so please be more cooperative by at least listening. Progressives can listen better first by recognizing that name calling is not an argument.


Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

I agree. If this is his hobby, its a sad day in paradise.

I can see where being informed could cause an adverse reaction to a liberal. Kind of hard to pull the wool over those of us that keep up to date in current events. Liberals tend to take the lazy way, easy way and wait for someone that they trust tells them something. Then they repeat it without confirming the validity of the information.

You can lead a liberal to the truth, but you can't make them THINK !

To be old and wise you must survive being young and stupid.

And now we have the motive: All evidence suggests Planned Parenthood shooting was act of domestic terror. Authorities and Colorado Springs mayor say the shooter was politically motivated in his attack on the health clinic.

Originally Posted by Guest

And now we have the motive: All evidence suggests Planned Parenthood shooting was act of domestic terror. Authorities and Colorado Springs mayor say the shooter was politically motivated in his attack on the health clinic.

Are you sure that that it wasn't "workplace violence" like the Fort Hood incident?

Originally Posted by Guest

And now we have the motive: All evidence suggests Planned Parenthood shooting was act of domestic terror. Authorities and Colorado Springs mayor say the shooter was politically motivated in his attack on the health clinic.

Now that's real credible. The shooter still thought Nixon was president. I doubt very much that this guy could spell political let alone understand what it means. Wonder how it could be planned parenthood that was the target when no one from PP was targeted.

I say the authorities who are privy to all the information about the shooting, are more knowledgeable about what happened and its causes, than some of the posters on this thread. You are just speculating.

and since it was a white guy threatening to kill white people there is not very much coverage or interest by the media, the politicians and the usual special interest groups that hover over a white on black incident.

Nothing in it for Obama, Jackson and Sharpton. Where are the white counterparts of these guys??

Not being racial. Just stating the obvious which obviously has racial implications.

According to the Washington Post, Dear was abusive and violent toward women, including his three ex-wives, and was even accused of raping a married woman. He hit on any woman that appealed to him, whether married or not. He told his former wife that he could do anything he wanted because he was a saved Christian and it was near the end of the world. He also abused animals. The Post also states that his neighbors said he would often say that the gov was spying on him and trying to get his secrets.

The man is crazy and deranged. He will probably be institutionalized as insane.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...nl_az_headline